Christianity is dying out in the West

Well - you've proven my points about both your own state of denial and the tendency to become personally insulting here - so as I said, I leave it hipforums members to draw their own conclusions.
Generally, it is extremely stupid to try to back up one's ideas with personal insults - it leads nowhere, and I don't intend to respond to any further posts by you. It also gives weight to the notion that in the end, you really have nothing to say or contribute to these discussions.
All you've done is cry bullshit - but you've given no evidence and no convincing argument.

 

Erasmus- you are totally clueless if you do not believe that God brings knowledge of God to everyone. You act like it is a childs responsibility to spread this knowledge, when children (any soul created by God) do not know the full extent of God's plan.

You can tell another soul of your experiences, but don't think for an instant that your experience of God is the be all - end all, everyone, even those who do not know or acknowledge it, experiences what God has planned for them.

You act like God does not care for all of God's creation by providing them with what is good (various religions, foods, and cultures). You lack faith in God, and it shows. Grow up.

 

Erasmus, Bill is more sincere than you'll ever be, and much more eloquent than me, but I'll still give you a few parting thoughts before you shut the door behind you.

A major misconception that you have is that "Hindus" don't share their faith. An hour spent in Google searching would clear that up decisively for you. Perhaps the difference is that Hindus don't tend to aggressively share their faith, because faith and true spiritual insight are not cheap things; they are to be cultivated over a lifetime, not sold on television or as hokey novelizations of scripture to poor, desperate, and gullible people or tricked upon the populations of third world countries. Yes, Hindu teachers have tried evangelistic tactics similar to those used by Christians, with somewhat productive results in the sense of numbers but with very undesirable side effects...it just doesn't work that way.

You haven't "exposed" any bullshit here, you've just spectacularly demonstrated what a profoundly expert bullshitter you are. I've read many of your posts on the Christianity forum, responded to a few, and have come to the conclusion that you have an all-consuming need to be right, and that's all that matters.

My advice: Get psychiatric help.

 

I pity the shrink.

 

I think its fun how everyone is just so narrow-minded they only have one repeating line of thought about the same several points.
Whether they apply to me or this topic or not.
Vishnu Forbid that you should ever try and address the original bullshit and how there are no poor needy people begging for food and some Missionaries making them convert-0r-die.

Hey, I have an idea, can you get me the name of that Missionary Org?
I mean, if you really care about this, get me the name of the Org and in what Region and I will be happy to get in contact with some people on this side.

No?
No names?

Right.. because its propaganda bullshit.

 

Erasmus, I could spend some hours researching the material needed to substantiate claims made here, refute yours, and put it all together in a concise, easy-to-read post for you. But, I'm not going to waste my time, because you would simply deny, stonewall, sidestep, bulldoze, obsfucate, or otherwise engage in tactics designed to create confusion and misunderstanding. I've got much better things to do.

Parting thoughts:

Christian missionary organizations do tremendous worldwide work in terms of feeding people and lessening their suffering. In this regard, Christians are attepting to follow Jesus and are very much admirable; where they are not admirable is in their effort to convert people with a doctrine that amounts to nothing more than mental and emotional terrorism.

I see you have moved on to more fertile ground in the Islamic forum, and are denouncing the Prophet's supposed sexual liasons with underage girls. I've never studied Islam enough to make an informed call, but if I were convinced that this actually happened, my natural reaction would be similar to yours. I also feel that indoctrinating children anywhere on earth with the pernicious and false ideas of original sin, essential personal worthlessness, and automatic eternal hell without Christian redemption is spiritual and emotional rape of the worst type.

 

If you are not going substantiate the original claims then you may now STFU and go sit down.
Until then I deem it a Bullshit news report.
You are the one sidestepping, skirting, stonewalling and repeatedly trying to change the subject like a moving target.
"Oh.. you missed Erasmus.. its over here not there!"
Verify the claim that Christian Missionaries were withholding food and or medicine to Tsunami victims or consider yourself a liar.
So be it.
Thanx

 

Telling one to shut the fuck up is a wonderful display of Jesus' love.

BTW. When are you going to admit that you love me?

 

Its not Jesus fault I have about zero tolerance for morons.

Thanks to Jesus though - I have this bizarre feeling that I should be loving you, despite your dumbassery.
Now that is saying really saying something!
Mainly that is Jesus doing the loving though.
Dont blame me on that one.

 

I love you.......its a phrase that blows all your fuzzy intellectual babble out of the water. Learn to use it, or believe it at least

 

Erazmo...read the post again...even if I put together a "conclusive" verification, you would reject it and ridicule it, per your well established pattern on every forum.

The points I consider the most important are in the paragraphs under Parting Thoughts.

Your epithets...liar and moron and STFU, are of no more consequence than a baby's farts.

Now, go away.

 

Ram Ram... Spook, I always admired one thing about you - your great patience. Amusing to find someone capable of stirring you up a bit. He isn't worth your breath. Shanti... shanti....shanti....

 

::nods:: Its not worth it...it really isn't...breath is better used on words of love and compassion...building bridges instead of barriers...

 

So your gonna backtrack out of this using the high road.

 

Ahhh, this is so horribly beautiful... come on, why get all buggered about Eramus and tell him to leave this forum... He is a beautiful incarnation of god as we all are... Everything is the one consciousness...

He's another one of god's punchlines... I think we should find our compassionate laughter, laugh at this punchline, but not as much as we laugh at our own egos... our own "personal" egos deserve the most laughter... man ganjaprince what a joke...

*chuckles*

 

What are you smoking my friend?

 

THE HERE NOW, I don't toke pot much anymore since I got busted. The here now is better then crack, dig?

Identify with Sat-Chit-Ananda, and see that all is playful ever-new bliss...

Yes God plays rough, we are unbearably compassionate about it where I'm at...

 

GP~you're crazy and awesome and I love you for it! hehehe

 

No, believe me - Im definately NOT an incarnation of God.
If it wasnt for the one and only real incarnated God influencing me - I could demonstrate inherint sinful nature (and good ole learned behavior) and you would never associate me with anything Godly again.

 

I dig it!