christianity is a dead end

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by soaringeagle, Sep 1, 2005.

  1. campbell34

    campbell34 Banned

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    The Bible stated that Solomon had pillars made to mark the Red Sea crossing site. Those pillars were discovered at the edge of the Red Sea. Chisled in the granit were the words written in Arachaic Hebrew, "This monument is erected by King Solomon, king of Israel, in honor of Yahweh in commemoration of the crossing of the Red Sea." The Bible is not a Book of fantasies. It's telling you the truth, which in recent days is now being verified. Divers are now finding the remnants of the Egyptian Army, which has been located between the two pillars. They are finding between the pillars, coral encrusted chariots, some with gold plated wheels, parts of skeletons of men and horses, all preserved by coral covering them. God said that in the latter days He would return the Jews back to the land of Israel which will be a sign of His return. The whole story of what is going to happen in Israel and America is in the scriptures. Yet it appears everyone wants to ignore these prophecies.
     
  2. Colours

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    It was a segment on the daily show.
     
  3. Colours

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    no, it was a report. they showed clips of his informercial where he advertised something (i forget what it was) that when applied could cure cancer.
     
  4. campbell34

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    The history of the church was often tainted, but I don't follow the doctrins of men. I don't even go to church. Yet, I know the author of my faith, and it is because of my experiences with Him, I am a christian. This week, the leader of Iran Mahmoud Ahmadinejad adressed the United Nations General Assembly and told everyone that Iran will share all there nuclear technologies with all Islamic nations that want it. He also stated that Jerusalem should be the capital of Palestine. The Bible states that the last battle on earth, will be over the fate of Jerusalem. If the Islamics have a mind set like the suicide bombers, then this will certainly be the last battle. In 25 years or less, America will be looking down the barrel of numerous Islamic nations armed to the teeth with Nukes, and the missile systems to deliever them to our back door.
    The Bible states that in the last days perilous times will come. I would say that statement will be realized even more, with each passing year. .
     
  5. campbell34

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    I would say the dogma that is being spewed out comes from scientist that have no evidence for evolution. And the most abundant of evidence should be found in the fossile record. There should be billions of fossiles that demonstrate trans species. And this was the most troubling aspect for Darwin. Darwin made the statement, that IF his theory was true, certainly these fossils would be found. Over one hundred years latter, we are still waiting for are first one. Their should be billions of them. WHERE ARE THEY?
     
  6. campbell34

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    The progression of the prophecies are running right on time.

    1. The Bible has stated that the Jews would take south Israel first. This happened 1948.

    2. Then the Bible said the Jews would take Jerusalem second. This happened 1967.

    3. The Bible said that Jerusalems East Gate would remain sealed. It has.

    4. The Bible states that a large number of Jews would be returning to Israel from the North. This is happening now. 100s of thousands of Jews are leaving Russia for Israel.

    5. The Bible states that when the Jews return to Israel world attention will be focused on this small nation. It is.

    More astounding prophecies are yet to come. There is nothing false here, it is all true, just as the Bible predicted.
     
  7. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    I wasn't even talking about you. I am talking about the preachers that try to pass themselves off as scientists then give christians nothing but misinformation about evolution.
     
  8. Burn

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    On the contrary, and according to this helpful website:

    "There are no transitional fossils."

    "To say there are no transitional fossils is simply false. Paleontology has progressed a bit since Origin of Species was published, uncovering thousands of transitional fossils, by both the temporally restrictive and the less restrictive definitions. The fossil record is still spotty and always will be; erosion and the rarity of conditions favorable to fossilization make that inevitable. Also, transitions may occur in a small population, in a small area, and/or in a relatively short amount of time; when any of these conditions hold, the chances of finding the transitional fossils goes down. Still, there are still many instances where excellent sequences of transitional fossils exist. Some notable examples are the transitions from reptile to mammal, from land animal to early whale, and from early ape to human. For many more examples, see the transitional fossils FAQ in the talk.origins archive, and see http://www.geo.ucalgary.ca/~macrae/talk_origins.html for sample images for some invertebrate groups."

    From: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-misconceptions.html

    Also check out the index: http://suhep.phy.syr.edu/courses/modules/ORIGINS/origins.html

    For more valuable information and clarity about this heavy debate.
     
  9. JesusDiedForU

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    Nothing but one liners that hold no water...
     
  10. Burn

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    I wouldn't be surprised it civilization collapsed beneath our feet, or if major Earth changes destroyed our way of life forever. Nuclear war, global flooding, natural catastrophies.... All that I can believe as possible. If and when it happens, though, do not tell me "I told you so", because I never doubted such events could occur. I won't, however, think that these events mean the end of times and judgement for all mankind.

     
  11. campbell34

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    It was Jesus Christ who said, that if it were not for His second coming, man would destroy himself. Only God could of known how destructive the future wepons of war would become.
     
  12. Colours

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    Then lets hope a natural disaster wipes out human civilization.
     
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    This is classic. They tell you right up front that every transitional fossile has gaps in it. Everyone mind you. Another words, they take one species as it was, and then find another species that is simliar, but they cannot show you in the fossil record a progression of change. And then they say, well just because there is no record of it, doesent discount it as a transitional. You talk about voodoo science. You have two different species similar but different, and then they take this leap of faith, and expect eveyone else to believe an assumption. There assumption is, because they are similar they must be the same, and even if they have know fossile record of change, we will still call them transitionals anyway. I don't believe in assumptions, I want to see a real transitional, not an assumed transitional.
     
  14. Colours

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    Just because you dont understand how something is a transitional fossil doesnt mean it actually is. What would you consider a transitional fossil? describe in detial what you would think a "real" transitional fossil would look like?
     
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    A real transitional should be much more than either or. As Darwin pointed out, these fossils should be found in GREAT abundance. And since we are talking about millions of years of evolution, there should be demonstrations of the most smallest of changes found in the same species yet showing us an obvious progression. Certainly if not found in all species, at least a few. And I do understand what a transitional should be, and so do the Evolutionest. For believers in Evolution, the fossile record is an embarrassement which requires strong faith in order to continue a belief in such a theory. Evolution is called a science, yet is based on no known, or demonstrable facts, but pure speculation. Had any other theory been put on the table with such a lack of evidence, science would of rejected it years ago.
     
  16. Colours

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    I asked you to describe what you think a transitional fossil should be

    Ive heard your "Darwin said...fossil record completely empty....voodoo science" speech many times. We dont need to hear it anymore.
     
  17. Burn

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    Science has come a long way since Darwin. There are reasons why they are not in great abundance and those reasons have been explained, but as a fact, we've found a few.

    This doesn't look like too long of a leap of faith to me:

    Here's an example of a transitional fossil.


    http://www.geo.ucalgary.ca/~macrae/talk_origins.html

    Here is your progression of change.

    Oh. Yes. There are slight variations that make each one a different species, quite right. But that's how we categorize things. Next evolutionary step... new species. Similar, yes, because it developed from a previous species. There is quite a lot of evidence supporting evolution. Period. Look at it yourself. Science doesn't like to just 'make stuff up'. It's based on analytical, repeatedly tested approaches. They come to conclusions based on evidence. Sure, we've made mistakes, but I have a feeling science has come pretty close with the theory of evolution.

    Besides, if evolution never existed, you'd think they would have mentioned dinosaurs somewhere in the Bible...

    You know, Adam and the Stegasauras, Goliath and the T.Rex... Something, anything about a Dinosaur. After all, we lived alongside them according to Creationism, right?
     
  18. Colours

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    There are like two sentences in the bible which talk about a mythical beast which spits fire, and they try to connect these beasts with dinosaurs.
     
  19. campbell34

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    Well you would not believe them to be dinosaurs if you did not believe the Bible, but you will find one of the verses in Job chapter 41 verses 18 to 21. And a component for evolution is time. Yet there is much evidence which indicates the earth is much younger then evolution would suggest.
     
  20. Colours

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    Where did the dinosaurs go, then?
     
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