che?

what people did che kill
he killed american soldiers
there were no political prisons or concentration camps or nothing like that
che spent most of the time during the revolution in the thick forest
the only people he could kill were american soldiers and forest elves or something
man i hate when people say bad things about che and yet know nothing about him
fidel had his bad times
but after the revolution che didn't stay around too long to kill people
he went to argentina and liberated argentina from americans
and if you americans didn't push you capitalists asses everywhere that wouldn't happen at all

hypocrits

 

Learn some fucking history - there were plenty of executions of the old guard politicians, etc.

 

executions of politicians and killing PEOPLE isn't the same

 

First of all, it wasn't exclusively politicians. Secondly, the huge majority of the politicians I know/have met are extremely decent people.

 

what did those politicians do on cuba anyway

 

man yall kids crack me up..

 

spooner i hope hitler gets you
or worse... bush
you don't know which one is the bigger fascist

 

what the fuck?? so its all fiction,, even the shit from his diaries..

as well as the statements from clergy who were there then??

i know i know,, it wasnt in the book you read,,or the proffessor you saw do a speech on him didnt say anything about that so it cant be true..

Wow..

yeah man psychopathic killers ,, there my heroes..

hay why not where a t shirt supporting bush if ya feel that way..

 

oh an by the way,, hes dead..

NO ,,Really..

 

...

 

You shouldn't argue about things you haven't even taken the slightest amount of time to research.

Guevara was a guerilla warlord, who killed many people in the Cuban revolution, and was then commander of La Cobanna Fortress, where he executed many more political dissidents.

These were Cubans he executed. (he was born in Argentina) His Guerilla squads killed many many more people in the places he visited, particularlly Bolivia and the Congo. I've cited this, you should educate yourself before you argue a point, else you look like a fool.

 

I don't even know what to make of this.

 

sorry bout that
i got taken away by the argument for a moment

 

hey man least we aint read bush's diary yet..

we know cheney will blast ya in yer face,, but..

hehehehehe,, i was goin somewhere with this..

che???

ahahhhahahaha

 

I wasn't confused by your wit or eloquence.

It just seemed so... non-sequitur.

 

well it's all related somehow

anyway i'll move away from this thread.... my emotions are stronger than facts so... anyway...

 

When your emotions get stronger then your ability to analyse, you van often get tricked into following people who say the rhetoric you want, while actually caring little about your cause.

Passion is only virtuous when it's paired with wisdom.

 

Yes he single handedly defeated the entire American army while tripping on shrooms, then danced all night with the menehunies, or whatever the fuck they call the forest little people in Cuba. LM#AO!!!!!


That's no way to treat a friend!

 

The path to Socialism must involve the working class. This didn't occur in China, North Korea, Cuba or Vietnam, where the peasantry was the majority and violent uprisings were conducted, hence why they have ended up as they have. Unfortunately, Stalin consolidated power in Russia after Lenin's death, a country where the working class was highly involved but was struck by civil war after revolution and was economically backward to begin with really. The revolution had to spread to other countries in Europe, where the working class was the majority, for success because Socialism in one country cannot work. 'Proper' Socialism (the ideas of Marx, Engels, Lenin and Trotsky and not the Stalinism of the USSR, Eastern Europe, China, etc, etc) does not involve state-run medias. It involves free speech, free media and debates that are independent of government control. The human rights abuses (which I know you have said Socialism isn't responsible for) were all commited by Stalinist governments, involving a layer of bureaucracy that creamed off workers to live better lifestyles whilst oppressing the population and leaving ownership of production in the hands of the state. The European societies, such as France, that you mention are regulating themselves along Capitalist lines. Limiting internal markets does not apply to the concept of Socialism. Socialism involves completely different political and economic structures. Competition can never be fair under Capitalism because the ruling class owns and regulates everything. Governments are run by big business, because big business controls the economy and governments are generally elected on how well the economy is doing (i have said "generally" ) Most people are not given a fair start in life and the right tools to fulfill their abilities.

Peace

 

heh. you've left me with nothing more to say.


you know your shit