Causality

"Pragmatism" is another word for "not particularly interested in The Truth". If you want to know how things really are you have to accept the possibility that the real answers will blow apart all your assumptions.

You posit a lot of dualities that need not exist, for example "either there is causality or there is not"--that very statement is grounded in a grammar which holds "existing" to be a definite state and makes huge assumptions about reality.

In my view there are absolute realities and relative realities. Causation is a relative reality: it is a model, a way of looking at certain sets of available data and making sense of them. That doesn't mean it's not "real," but it also does not confirm it as Universal Law either.

 

Actually I think the theory seeks to account for the present state, not how everything began. The big bang postulated to emerge from a point of intense singularity but there are simply no models of what came before. The theory does not state in any instance that the big bang emerged from nothing.

 

Time it lasted... amount of things that happened.
You can 'measure' how big concert is, by amount of people that were there.

 

The theory cannot. For while it can make assumptions about the bang it has no idea of a cause.. thus a cause is an occlusion within the theory. And not seen.

 

Absolute realities and Relative realities.

Causation HAS NEVER BEEN SHOWN TO NOT EXIST . Show ONE example where an act does not produce a result.
In this universe.

In this reality. causality may not hold sway.. but you seem to be confused as to what is a universe and what is reality.. work it out.. then come back.
They are not the same thing.

Prill

 

Why did you pose this question for discussion if you already know everything you wish to know about reality?

Clearly you have it all figured out; you were not really welcoming our input.

 

If it is not seen, how do you measure an event?

 

Raga.

False. I look for ideas from others on what was before the bang..
THIS is is the causality question.

Dont be so rude as to suggest i know everythhing.

 

by the fact a result exists?

And the nature of it

 

latest developments say the universe was created from magnetism... we are all magnetized... was the universe created by a thought?

 

jared

No magnetism before universe existed. Laws require a universe.. if it hasnt happened yet.. no laws. You cant use laws to enable a universe when a universe IS the foundation of laws.

think about it

 

just what I heard of the latest discovery channel showing, where were at technology wise, not that i necessarily believed it... but still, dont you think the universe was created by a thought?

 

Hjarloprillar you are full of contradictions.

You are looking for knowledge but you are a "pragmatist."

You don't claim to know everything but youa ct as if you do already know everything.

Without humility one can not learn.

 

Magnetism is a bidirectional spatial displacement intrinsic to energy. When movement (energy) propagates in one direction, the fabric of space is displaced perpendicular to that flow of energy. Energy is a propagation of spatial vibrations. Some spatial fabric has to move out of the way for energy to flow. Like how a wave in the ocean has peaks and valleys perpendicular to it's direction of travel.

When you push two same polls of strong magnets together, that tension you feel is the density of space. You are bunching up the fabric of space. We have not evolved the ability to experience the substance of space itself. We have only evolved the ability to sense certain vibrations and displacements of space. At an atomic level, magnetic repulsion is the only thing we ever really feel. Atoms never really touch each other, electron valence shells repel like same poll magnets. Orbiting electrons have magnetic properties, after all they are just waves of spatial displacements moving in an orbit. Atoms as a whole may have gravitational attraction but valence shell electrons from one atom repel the electrons from another. This keeps our worldly matter relatively stable. What happens in the the center of stars is another story.

 

Magnanimous intent equals gravity.

 

We are inherently, real.
Cause and effect are the same truth.
There is nothing you can know that can not be known.

 

How about instead of repulsion creating order, the order is absorption, reflection, and polarity.

 

is gravity the correct word?

congrats on 10k :tongue:

 

The thing around which coalesces the events of your life and the things of the worlds.

 

so the term gravity could be used to describe, attraction ok I get it, that all makes sense