Canadians who are you going to vote for? "Poll"

Discussion in 'Canada' started by Inquiring-Mind, Dec 1, 2005.

  1. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    ABSOLUTELY.

    Heck, in the USA Chretien would be in HANDCUFFS over Shawinigate.

    The fact that the PM can tell the cops to NOT investigate him is the kind of thing Harper's GOING to change.
     
  2. FNA

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    Alright, that's just ridiculous. Unless you're refering to Chretien not being on the right. Then maybe. Just like they tried to impeach Clinton for cheating on his wife, but not Bush for the astonding atrocities he's commited. I don't know why you think the US is so much more just than us.

    And I wanna say for the record, that I never supported the Liberals. You probably don't remember bitching at me earlier in this thread about my comments concerning the scandal....but I don't wanna see Paul Martin in there any more than you do. I was just saying that I have no doubt that they are ALL corrupt. It's human nature to be corrupt when you're in power unless you're a saint, which Harper is not, nor are any of the other Major Leaders. Green is the one that comes closest and that's why I'm voting for them. It's not a vote for Martin, it's a vote against the 3 main parties. I want to see more strong contenders and more real choice instead of this two party farce we call democracy.
     
  3. IronGoth

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    Clinton lied under oath. George Bush went to war. Legally. Sorry, but that's how it works. The fact that neither you or I LIKE what he did doesn't change what can and cannot be done.

    Now, if GWB was found to have told a public servant to give him $250,000 of public money via a shady land deal involving a bank loan to a known felon, he'd be IN JAIL.

    That's a vote for Martin.

    Look, the Morontarians will vote Liberal for more handouts, as will Queebeck. If you vote any other protest party than the Cons, you're giving the win to Martin FULL STOP. Even Buzz Hargrove agrees.
     
  4. Inquiring-Mind

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    Somebody needs to give bush a blow job to be impeached.


    Conservatism is an ideology so a conservative is a conservative no matter how centrist or moderate they may seem don't be delusional.
     
  5. IronGoth

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    No, GWB would have to lie under oath.
     
  6. Inquiring-Mind

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    What a fallacy people paid for these services through taxes. They rather see the government which is democratically controlled do it than corporations who will drive up prices and deliver less for more.


    There is no such thing as "handouts."
     
  7. FNA

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    Not that simple. Aside from the fact that I'd rather see Martin in there than Harper any day, the vote for green is a vote for green, and with that vote the green will grow strength and maybe one day kick both those parties to the curb. I haven't much interest in the winner of this election. I'm thinking long term. I will not bow down to this strategic voting, becuase that's the reason we always see the same stupid parties in power. "Oh, if I don't vote for these guys than those guys will win." You've already lost. that's not what democracy should be (and don't bother pointing out the flaws of democracy, I'm well aware of them). I already know that a party I don't want on power is going to win, so why pick the lesser of two evils? I vote for what I believe in. And actually I do believe in the Green party's platform, it's just convenient for me that they also serve my protest needs.

    Oh and Bush has been subpoenaed. He had the white house guards turn them away at the gates. So, maybe he didn't lie under oath (although I have no doubt he surely did), that doesn;t make me wanna root for a country that allows such atrocities to be committed because they're "legal." But that's off topic........
     
  8. chaos

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    heil harper!
     
  9. IronGoth

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    Not so, Ontario and SURE AS HELL QUEBEC are not net payers into the system.
    Alberta is the only province that chips in and never gets anything back.

    As you know, money is made in the West, thieved in the East, spent there, and the West puts up with Ontarian laws and value systems and of course, abuse. Remember Chretien's comments on not liking or dealing with Albertans?
     
  10. IronGoth

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    If not for Nader, Gore would be in the White House. Think on that.

    I sure as heck do. BTW Green will win an election shortly after the Marijuana Party does.

    Which is why the Liberals win.

    Governments need to be changed.
     
  11. Inquiring-Mind

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    nah bush needs a blow job


    - George Bush has started an ill-timed and disastrous war under false pretenses by lying to the American people and to the Congress he has run a budget surplus into a severe deficit

    -he has consistently and unconscionably favored the wealthy and corporations over the rights and needs of the population

    -he has destroyed trust and confidence in, and good will toward, the United States around the globe; he has ignored global warming, to the world's detriment; he has wantonly broken our treaty obligations; he has condoned torture of prisoners; he has attempted to create a theocracy in the United States; he has appointed incompetent cronies to positions of vital national importance.

    - Massive republican corruption



    so many scandals and whistleblowers and nothing happens to him but Clinton gets a blow job and he is impeached.
     
  12. IronGoth

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    Lying to people is not an impeachable offense. Lying under oath is.

    I can lie to you right now, but if I lie in a court of LAW, that's something else.

    That's no crime.

    Neither is that.

    Global warming is a myth, the treaties broken needed to be broken. As to the rest, I agree, but none of that is impeachable. Sorry.

    But yeah, lying under oath still is.


    - Massive republican corruption
     
  13. Inquiring-Mind

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    What


    what are you talking about? I am not sure about Quebec but Ontario pays more than it get back from the system and you don't see Ontarians complaining.
     
  14. FNA

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    Iron-goth, your optimism is great. I love the fact that you selectively didn't listen to the fact that I don't care who wins between Harper and Martin in the first reply, but quoted it in the second. Brilliant. And I like how you took my selective voting commment to attack the Liberals and feed your personal agenda, when the same can be said about any party. Well, enjoy your conservative orgy, cause they're going to win anyway...........
     
  15. IronGoth

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    What does GEORGE BUSH have to do with the election in Canada?

    Harper is NOT BUSH

    STOP LISTENING TO THE LYING, DRUG DEALING, THIEVING CRETINOUS MARTIN
     
  16. IronGoth

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    QUEBEC are a bunch of welfare receipients, publicly and privately.

    ONTARIO used to pay into the system, it no longer does.
     
  17. IronGoth

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    Good!

    We have a lot of problems to fix.
     
  18. Inquiring-Mind

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    So in your logic anything goes as long as Bush does not lie under oath.
     
  19. IronGoth

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    I'm no fan of George Bush

    BUT

    I am correcting the LIE that Clinton's impeachment was about prudishness over him and that intern.

    It was him lying under oath about it that was the problem.
     
  20. Inquiring-Mind

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    SO you think Alberta is paying for all Canada or something because if you do you are greatly mistaken and a google search would help you out.
     

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