Canada's Senate Committee Passes Bill S-10 with Mandatory Jail Sentencing

Shame on you, your from Florida. Don't you know the most important rule to live by down here?

Don't piss off the old people

 

The Senate of Canada passed Bill S-10 on Monday, December 13th. It'll now go to the House of Commons where it will be voted on and will become law if it gets a majority vote. The Senate is mostly Conservatives, so it's no real surprise that it got passed. What is surprising however is that there was no Liberal opposition or media opposition.

Why the fuck do we have two supposedly opposing parties if one of them isn't going to represent the other view on the issue? There's no reason to have both parties vote on this bill if both are for it. It should be considered by and voted on by all the parties. The BLOC and the Green Party would vote 'Hell no!'

I have absolutely no idea how the Conservatives got voted in, but I hope at least that those who voted for them are equally as unhappy with the way the neo-nazis have run our country.

 

You couldn't drive a toothpick up Harpers ass with a sledge hammer. Follow the money,as usual. When I was in California a month ago,I believe I read in the Fresno Bee that Swartzenegger signed a bill making it legal for anyone over 18 to legally posess 1 ounce of marijuana despite the voters voting against legalization in the past election. Anybody verify?? This really surprises me about Canada. And what is prorogued??

 

From wikipedia, found under 'Legislative session'-

 

Thank you.

 

The reason you hear a lot of us bitch about harper and proroguing, isn't because he prorogued parliment.. it was when he chose to do it... In order to stop a vote of non confidence in his government... TWICE... He used the time that he gained by doing this to make his back room deals in order to get the required votes needed to survive the vote of non confidence...

It is along the lines of if Bill Clinton had called a holiday for the House of Representatives in order to gain two months before the impeachment hearing to wheel and deal... at the cost of having everything that was currently being worked on, scrapped...

edited to add... Well, it would be the same, if Clinton did it twice...

 

UPDATE: Liberal Party Opposes Bill S-10 and Mandatory Minimums for Marijuana

The Liberal Party of Canada has finally come out with a stance on this, it's not quite a policy, but at least it's something. For a long time Iggy and his Liberal stooges have been accused of simply being a watered down version of Harper. They never really opposed anything, never had any open policies of their own, and still don't.

Here's something somewhat confidence boosting at least, a press release from their website;

If you'd like you can contact them to express your support for their (or the) opposition of Bill S-10. I emailed them months ago and received a generic reply about how the bill is bad, but at least they read people's emails and they'll (sometimes) send you a reply.

Contact the Liberal Party of Canada;

http://www.liberal.ca/contact/

 

This sounds better. If people were able to grow as much as they want-there would be no "distribution". Just smoking. Your conservatives are as bad as ours. This continuing hypocracy over allowing liquor to be legal and natural grown marijauna to be "bad",is one of the craziest situations going. Of course liquor is very good for capitalist societies. Car wrecks,shootings,jailings,etc,creates massive amounts of MONEY for all concerned and affected. I think marijauna is so scary to conservatives because it causes people to better see "them" for who and what they are. The money. Always the money.

 

I have hope however that if we can get Harper out of office that we might someday soon seen at the very least the decriminalization of smaller amounts of cannabis. The Liberals were about to decriminalize before Harper got elected.

We don't yet have private, corporate prisons here which is in the favour of the people. We're not cash cows yet which gives less incentive to dirty money-hungry politicians. Harpers Bill S-10 proposes spending billions to build new prisons, many fear that his next step would certainly be privately owned corporate prisons, he's a big fan of the American system.

There's less money to currently be made off the illegal activities and ill-health of Canadians, therefore less incentive to further the trend. I think if we don't have this bill passed and we get Harper the hell out, that there's at least a decent chance of getting more lax laws on cannabis.

 

I am not sure if we will get more lax laws. But S-10 certainly is ridiculous. For the past few years I have just been waiting for Harper to say "Fine Canadians! You want me out! I am out!". I was still a baby when Jean Chretien was the Prime Minister, and grew up aware that he was not changing Canada in a huge and positive way. But at least we are still alive and he was good to joke about. Harper is just a joke.

I am not the typical anti-government kind of person, and through his first few blunders I was able to say to myself that it would change and that he was not really foolish. I was proved wrong however.

Still, as the leader of a minority government, you can not really blame everything on him. It is up to the other parties to oppose bad propositions, by which I mean not just this one. Most everyday people are not really concerned with politics more then necessary. Which is why it is essential that opposition parties make a stand, and make it vocal and known to the people. Otherwise, bills that nobody wants will get passed because nobody knew to oppose something they think is wrong.

 

Do you remember that Harper prorogued Parliment to avoid charges of war crimes against the Canadian military, by default scrapping this bill at the same time. When Parliament resumed, the war crimes mysteriously went away yet this bill came back. That's one of the reasons it's so maddening.

But yes, opposition parties need to make their opposition well known, something Iggy wasn't doing and was heavily criticized for. The NDP and the Bloc have expressed great distaste for the bill. Hopefully this will all count for something within this next (Harper's last) year in office.

 

Yep. I remember. I was not happy about it. But was about to get laid. Maybe that why I never became overly vocal about my distaste for what happened... The ill news was associated with good feelings

 

this isnt bad news right?

http://whyprohibition.ca/blogs/jaco...ce-opposition-bill-s-10-s-10-will-be-defeated

 

That's pretty good news, yea. However he's a little ahead of himself by announcing, "we've won."

Though considering the Bloc, the NDP, and now the Liberals are voting against it, I'd assume the same thing. I would hate to have to eat crow later however.

 

Agreed... but seriously if this passes, I'm going to lose it. Can you imagine going away for a year and a half for having a little weed? Being locked up with straight up killers and thieves and violent offenders?

 

He is a way ahead of himself announcing that. If he follows party policy it will be a "free" vote so any member can vote as they wish.

I take little faith in his statements as when the Liberals were last in, it was first tabled as a private members bill that they defeated. It was to have been brought forward for reading twice and never was as it was again tabled by them. The Liberals never passed a bill regarding recreational use. Go figure.

 

then I guess we'll just have to wait and see..