spooner - I'd tell you, but I'd end up gutted like a fish, even if I wanted to rat out my friends. All I can say is this, and all I will say is this. The official story about this is wrong.
That is self defense, I would never deny anyone the right to self defense, self defense is always justified. What I am questioning is how does the person who is trying to hurt me justify his actions ?
Just the old chesnut .. No two Democratic nations have ever gone to war.. thats all. http://markhumphrys.com/end.war.html
dont use all your pseudo intellectual terms dude, your jsut trying to dodge the issue, you quite clearly justified violence with self defense
Sigh, I conceeded that point already, in fact I never implied anything else. The problem here is you apparently don't think there is a moral difference between beating your wife and defending your home from an intruder.