Can i own a fire-arm and still Be a hippie

Discussion in 'Hippies' started by Echoing Moon, Mar 19, 2006.

  1. La Dulce Vita

    La Dulce Vita Banned

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    weapons were design from the very early days as toools to hunt and defend our self.
     
  2. gate68

    gate68 Senior Member

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    good argument


    you mean killing,yes we've killed since the very early days,and your point?We should keep it up?
     
  3. La Dulce Vita

    La Dulce Vita Banned

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    no , i guess i should drop my pants down and get butt fuck by any one.
     
  4. La Dulce Vita

    La Dulce Vita Banned

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    This morons forgot knives , baseball bats, rocks, bricks, gasoline, vehicles , swords, nice solid lamp. chainsaw, even a cordless drill, nail guns are weapons . the list is much more extensive and many are everday tools used in murders every day .
     
  5. Mr. Mojo Risin'

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    yeah, sure it is.

    it's also from Mint Toothpicks straight to Heroin.
     
  6. HighDesertHippie

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    If you take a look at history, you'll see that the only path to peace is through superior firepower.
     
  7. gate68

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    1st let's define a hippie.You imply there are no definitions,but then like i said why is hitler not a hippie.There must be a definition.I would think a peaceful non-violent person would be a start.Do you dis agree?Why would a peaceful non-violent person have any reason for a gun?In fifty years of not owning a gun i have never needed one for survival,i have never been forced to bend over for anything in which case they'd have a bigger gun anyway,so don't give me that crap.If you own a gun you can call yourself anything you want,but in reality you are what you are,just another dumb fucking redneck.
     
  8. gate68

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    by the way hippies are emotional and react accordingly.
     
  9. gate68

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    molitov coctails work pretty good in a drive-by,better than a chainsaw or worse yet a cordless drill.They also say my breath can kill...
     
  10. heron

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    I own several guns, for hunting, and defense. I dont think weaponry disqualifies hipness.

    Of course, i am usually only a "hippy" to people who confuse what I am for the way I look.

    I think being 16 is a bigger factor in owning a gun or not.
     
  11. gate68

    gate68 Senior Member

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    Politics

    In addition to being a novel, Starship Troopers is also a political essay. Large portions of the book are spent in classrooms, with Rico and other characters engaged in debates with their History and Moral Philosophy Teachers, who serve as stand-ins for Heinlein. The overall theme of the book is to present a favorable view of military life (with its purposefulness and order), as well as disgust with the slack, individualistic life of "civilians". Subsidiary themes include the necessity and use of violence, the belief that nuclear fallout is good,[11] and personal responsibility. Heinlein's Terran Federation is a meritocracy, where suffrage belongs only to those willing to serve their society by two years of military service, instead of "anyone who is 18 years old and has a body temperature near 37° C."[12] This is in contrast to the democracies of the twentieth centuries, which according to the novel had collapsed because "people had been led to believe that they could simply vote for whatever they wanted . . . and get it, without toil, without sweat, without tears."[13] Indeed, Dubois criticizes as unrealistic the famous passage of the U.S. Declaration of Independence about "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

    Starship Troopers is also a vehicle for Heinlein's anti-communist views, best summed up by Rico's belief that "[c]orrect morals arise from knowing what man is—not what do-gooders and well-meaning old Aunt Nellies would like him to be."[14] Characters attack Karl Marx (a "pompous fraud"), the Labor theory of value ("All the work one cares to add will not turn a mud pie into an apple tart...")[15] and Plato's The Republic ("antlike communism" and "weird in the extreme").[16] Heinlein's fears about communism are additionally embodied in the Arachnids, the "the ultimate dictatorship of the hive."[17] The Arachnids are a society of "total communism" adapted to it by evolution. They lay their eggs in the thousands, and send their warriors off to battle without the slightest thought about casualties, in both cases a major advantage over the individualistic Terrans.[18]

    Do you know who you quote?
     
  12. HighDesertHippie

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    The real men protect you, and allow you to carve out your little domain of pacifism in a violent, deadly, overpopulated world where humans compete for dwindling resources. Without firepower and the masters of war, hippies would be extinct. Firepower keeps others from imposing their doctrine and religion upon you. Firepower is the reason we have liberty, and the reason you can choose to be a hippie. I am NOT saying the hippie way of thinking isn't quite noble.
     
  13. gate68

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    the one with the biggest stick wins.The real men as you put it are over in another country destroying another culture in my name.i went for years without having to protect myself from this "threat*Didn't we create this threat in the first place.These"real men" in the end will destroy us.Be a real man take a chance on peace...stop the paranoia.
     
  14. gate68

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    Why would i own a sword or gun if i wasn't violent.Killing one's own food for enjoyment is a violent act.We can come up with all kinds of propaganda(what you call facts and statistics)to support either side.We're all good at google.BFD.The only reason to use guns is to kill or practice killing(target practice.If thats what you're into,more power to you,but don't pacify yourself by saying it's something else.Call it what it is embrace it for what it's worth and be proud of it.You can lie to yourself and you can lie to your friends,but lets not lie to each other.
     
  15. gate68

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    http://www.journalism.sfsu.edu/Xpress/archive/spring2000/news/millionmomside.html

    [Total Gun Deaths: There were a total of 32,436 people killed by guns in the U.S. in 1997.

    Of these:

    • American children under 15 are 12 times more likely to die from gunfire than children in 25 other industrialized countries combined.
    • Gun homicide is the fourth leading cause of death for young people 10-14 years of age.
    • Gun homicide is the second leading cause of death for young people 15-24.

    • [*]981 were unintentional or "accidental" shootings

    • [*]367 were shooting deaths of undetermined intent

    • [*]In 1997, firearm injuries were the second leading cause of injury death for all ages and for young people aged 15-24. Motor vehicle injuries were the leading cause of injury death for all ages and for you young people 15-24 years of age in 1997.







    4,223 young people ages 0-19 were killed by gunfire - one every two hours, nearly 12 every day in the U.S. in 1997.

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    2,580 were murdered by gunfire.
    1,262 committed suicide using a gun-more than three every day.
    306 died from an unintentional or "accidental" shooting.
    630 young people killed by guns were under the age of 15.
    191 young people killed by guns were under the age of 10.
    84 young people were under the age of 5.




    source: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the National Center for Health Statistics.

     
  16. La Dulce Vita

    La Dulce Vita Banned

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    you prob feeel the same about your penis.
     
  17. La Dulce Vita

    La Dulce Vita Banned

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    www.journalism.sfsu.edu/Xpress/archive/spring2000/news/millionmomside.html

    [Total Gun Deaths: There were a total of 32,436 people killed by guns in the U.S. in 1997.

    Of these:
    • American children under 15 are 12 times more likely to die from gunfire than children in 25 other industrialized countries combined.
    • Gun homicide is the fourth leading cause of death for young people 10-14 years of age.
    • Gun homicide is the second leading cause of death for young people 15-24.

    • [*]981 were unintentional or "accidental" shootings

    • [*]367 were shooting deaths of undetermined intent

    • [*]In 1997, firearm injuries were the second leading cause of injury death for all ages and for young people aged 15-24. Motor vehicle injuries were the leading cause of injury death for all ages and for you young people 15-24 years of age in 1997.




    4,223 young people ages 0-19 were killed by gunfire - one every two hours, nearly 12 every day in the U.S. in 1997.

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    2,580 were murdered by gunfire.
    1,262 committed suicide using a gun-more than three every day.
    306 died from an unintentional or "accidental" shooting.
    630 young people killed by guns were under the age of 15.
    191 young people killed by guns were under the age of 10.
    84 young people were under the age of 5.




    source: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the National Center for Health Statistics.

    [/QUOTE] 400.000 americans die each year from motor vehicles alone. also that govememr angency wont say how many lives were saved by privately own fireams . nothing but far liberal propaganda
     
  18. gate68

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    400.000 americans die each year from motor vehicles alone. also that govememr angency to say how mmy lives were saved by privately own fiream . nothing but far liberal propaganda[/QUOTE]
    i keep forgetting how far liberal our government is....good point.Go george Bush...
     
  19. La Dulce Vita

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    This submission from CRASH is in response to the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration’s (FMCSA) request in a Notice for Proposed Rule Making for comments bearing on the reform of current Hours of Service (HOS) rules regulating commercial driver duty, driving, and off-duty time.

    On the news, in the halls of Congress and throughout every department of transportation, the statistics are quoted. Every year there are over 400,000 collisions involving heavy trucks. Every year over 5,000 people die in these crashes. Every year over 100,000 are injured, one-third of those life-altering injuries. But statistics are just numbers and those numbers cannot begin to tell the story of the trauma commercial vehicles cause when they crash. Behind every death and serious injury is a family, a school, a business, a community, devastated by the loss.

    Citizens For Reliable And Safe Highways (CRASH) is solely devoted to preventing deaths and injuries resulting from collisions with heavy trucks. CRASH was founded in 1990 as a national grassroots organization and has members in all 50 states. Tens of thousands of CRASH members have earned a reputation for making their voices heard in record numbers on issues of truck safety. We represent the millions of Americans who travel the nation's highways every day, including truck drivers, motorists, truck crash victims, and their families. Our goal is to make safety as important as productivity in all U.S. trucking operations.
     
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