Can God cure as well as kill? Should God kill or cure?

It seems you think that your thinking never changes.

Enlightenment may not happen to you but some of us never stop trying to grow.

The Father Complex is pure science.

So now only some people have a spiritual bend. Ok.

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DL

 

Sure, some left wing Christians are progressive. That does not forgive that their ideology is homophobic and misogynous.

If it was not so, Christianity would not still be hurting their own people as well as others. You go ahead and promote the old garbage. I have moved to a better place.

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DL

 

Sure, but not the majority.

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DL

 

LOL. Strange then that they reproduced well enough to go, what, 300 years.

Sex is good. Love is better.

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DL

 

You are just not asking the right questions and already have an argument against what I will put.

You spout on about Jesus and his enlightening us yet have ignored what I put of him doing just that.

Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail.


You call yourself a Gnostic yet are interested in following old thinking instead of seeking the new and more moral.

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DL

 

I have no argument against your view.

You seem to think we are way above the other animals but we are basically the same, only a lot smarter on some issues while identical in most.

In fact, in learning to think for themselves, chimps have shown to be smarter than humans as they break programming faster than we do.

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DL

 

This is simple idiocy.

 

Forgiveness is thought by many to be one of the basic Christian virtues. Those who don't practice it can't call themselves Christian, as you dub yourself, with any credibility.

But my experience is that left wing people tend not to be homphobic or misogynistic, Christian or not.

You seem eaten up with both hate of Christians and you own somewhat shakey ideology.

 

Rank and file Cathars had sex obviously - the Perfects took a vow of celibacy.

Cathar belief was that the world and it's pleasures are simply a snare for the spirit. Why not find some other philosophy more in line with your own ideas to identify with? Why cling to a belief system that you clearly don't understand, or about which you have been misled perhaps?

 

It certainly was.

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DL

 

On your part obviously.

 

Indeed. A large part of my spirituality fights the less honorable ideologies.

Note how long ago we named Yahweh a vile S.O.B.

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DL

 

We like matter of all kinds. Don't you?

That is why we see heaven when we look around. Heaven, for a human, includes matter and sex and all the good things life has to offer us.

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DL

 

On your part, obviously.

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DL

 

What I think of matter is irrelevant to the conversation. It's what the medieval Cathars, of whom you are not a representative, thought of it that is the issue.

Can't you understand that?

 

Again, it's not about if my thinking changes or not. What hasn't changed, and what you don't seem to comprehend are the known facts of history as they pertain to the Cathars of the 13th century.

 

True to a small point. Thank the Christians and all their book burning for that.

That and the garbage the inquisitions added to the history, to justify their many murders.

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DL

 

1- the Cathars produced no books of which we are aware, nor is there any record of book burning by the inquisitors during the Albigensian Crusade.

2 - almost all that is known of Cathar belief comes from the records of the inquisition.

Note - that doesn't in any way mean I support the inquisition.

 

Yes, the winners of the God wars wrote the history so that there would be confusion.

Meanwhile, it has cause many to tell Gnostic Christians that they do not know what they are talking about when we take the lies told of us apart so as to make our ideology workable and while it also explains the truth of our beliefs.

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DL

 

History can only be known from the sources we have. That means that often, we'd like to know a great deal more than we can know. It's no use complaining about that, we just have to go with what we do have. I very much doubt that the inquisitors of the 13th century had any sense that they were manipulating history.
When I say 'history' I mean history like you'd learn at a college, not 'channelled writings', 'recovered memories' of those who say they were Cathars in their past life,or the imaginations of French 19th century romantic revivalists, of whom there were a few.

If you want to call yourself a Gnostic, that's ok, but it doesn't mean that you are believing the exact same things, or seeing in the same way as either the Gnostics of antiquity or the Cathars. You have some revived version maybe at best: to try to twist the known facts of history to serve that is really not going to help.

'Ideology' is a dirty word in my book BTW. You're better off without it as far as you can be. It just tends to block out any possibility of an actual spiritual experience - but I'm forgetting, in your version of 'Gnosis' there's no spirit. Which is why I think you are simply a confused materialist. The very term 'Gnosis' indicates just such a direct knowing of spiritual realities (note the word 'spiritual' not to be confused with 'mental') - not a bunch of idology which is second hand at best, pernicious and harmful at worst.