fun is one thing,respect for the people around you is another. when having fun involves disturbing everyone around you it becomes a moral issue. if the assholes dont care about keeping the neighborhood up all night then they deserve to be put in check.. oh an that was pretty fucked up calling a 17 year old a yellow belley vindictive bitch.. i really feel that was uncalled for and you should apologize...
as far as "other ways" nowadays going to a party and requesting them to be quiet can get you your ass kicked or shot. i dont feel its worth the risk in many cases to attempt to handle it yourself. most if not all municipalities have a cival noise ordinance that is generrally at 10 pm. if said neighbors didnt have the courtesy to contact all there neighbors and get approval for a undo noise level past said time then they should be dealt with. you may like the idea of risking a ass whooping to keep a buncha inconsiderate assholes from dealing with the cops,but i personally dont enjoy conflict so id call the cops...
After reading the posts after mine....I take back what I said. You all are a bunch of fucking narcotic agents and anyone who would call the cops on a party better be 90 years old, or else you deserve a beat down... It's just not cool. If you were a real American, or any cool cat for that matter, you would either be at the house makin all the noise, or you would be making more noise. Like Pavel said before, a lot of people don't understand the consequenses of even a simple marijuana charge. Why chance ruining someones life because you might have to drink an extra cup of coffee in the morning?
if they were so concerned about the consequences of there actions then they wouldnt be breaking the law in the first place.. and being so loud that the neighbor across the street can hear you in the winter time when houses are closed up is against the law.. i work hard,i pay my bills and i pay my taxes,i shouldnt be expected to lose sleep so others can do as they please... so i should lose sleep so some disrespectful asshole can stay out of trouble??? makes absolutely no sense to me...
and for the record, EVERY TIME we have had the cops called on us here because of disturbing the neighbors they have called here and asked us to quiet down. they have never came to our house. beyond that generally when they do come on a noise complaint they never do anything but come to the door and ask you to tone it down.. its only if your bein stupid and blatantly breaking other laws in plain view that they would go any farther than just a warning...and if you are breaking other laws,underage drinking,weed,etc. and are to stupid to realize that raisin all kinds of hell late at night may get the cops called on you,then your pretty fuckin stupid.. when does responsibility for your own actions come into play here? once again yalls skewed logic seems to be that people should be allowed to do whatever the fuck they want and its up to others to suffer so they dont get in trouble.. thats bullshit.. before you say they are not hurting anyone,may i remind you there are a lot of jobs that lack of sleep can make down right dangerous. so you should lose sleep and risk bodily injury at work so someone else can do as they damn well please?? once again,yalls logic makes no sense....
Okay............say you just turned 21, and you had a few friends over to celebrate. A cop knocks on your door, and there just so happens to be a pipe laying on the table in plain sight. The next thing you know, you are in court facing possession of marijuana, disturbing the peace, and contributing to a minor. In other words: thousands of dollars out of your pocket, multiple years of probation, possible 30 days or more imprisonment, and perminant strikes against your record. Not to mention losing your job, house/apartment, and the pleasure of trying to find a new job that will hire you with an active criminal record. WOULD YOU feel any sympathy for the neighbor who might have lost a couple hours of sleep? If the laws in this country were just......then call all the cops you want. But when calling the local Barny Fife, because you can't sleep, can cause such a shitstorm on another persons life......you become just as bad (if not worse) than the "man" inflicting 7 kinds of pain upon a possibly innocent soul.
I wish my neighbors were partying and such...atleast thats better than what my low life neighbors are doing.. They live in small rooms in something basement like beside my block in a very respectable neighborhood..But nooo, these ppl literally fight every single day with outrageous insults, cutting each other up and another one almost killed his wife a few nights ago!! The Government gave them free apartments to live in else where , but no , they wont leave these shitty little rooms where they like to cram in together.. Cops have been called many times, but nothing is changing.
its personal responsibility. it doesnt matter what the reason, if your going to smoke weed,or whatever, ya dont do things that will attract attention to you in the process.. its no different than these kids smokin in cars hot boxing them.. we all know what the laws are, like them or not they exist..when we choose to break them we are playing a game with tough consequences for losing. so the object is not to lose.. you cant expect to be stupid and have others turn the other cheek... if you wanna underage drink and smoke weed etc. then use a little common sense and dont announce it to the world then ya wont have that problem.. like i said its not my responsibility to suffer to keep a disrespectful asshole out of jail.. its my responsibility to be a productive member of society and if losing sleep affects that then why should i be expected to have to lose sleep so others can do as they damn well please???
If you wanna be an asshole than go right ahead. But if you want to talk respect then you might want to reevaluate your thinking process.
so where is there respect? lemme get this straight,, by your logic,you should show respect to one who is showing total disrespect towards not only you but all there other neighbors?? an my thought process needs to be looked at??? right....
How is someone supposed to know that they are showing disrespect, when the cops are the ones to let them know that they are being too loud? Can't you have enough respect for your neighbor to go to them yourself? Even when just slightly intoxicated, someone isn't going to know how far the sound is going to travel outside their walls.
common sense.. how stupid can a person be? the O.P. stated they were across the street,and its winter time,you know how loud it musta been inside the house?? i mean come on your old enough to rent a house but your to stupid to know what a respectful noise level at a late hour is??? so all your years under your parents roof didnt clue you in??? an as i stated earlier,nowadays,, well you know as well as i people get beaten up or worse all the time for confronting neighbors over just such issues.. no im sorry, im not confronting a bunch of folks who are either to drunk or to stupid to know or care that they are disturbing the whole neighborhood....
I live in a small island community, everyone has a yard, but not MUCH. I can't piss out my back door without hitting a neighbors house. We're pretty packed in over here. I also play in a band, and frequently have "hippie bonfires" in my backyard. Generally I'm not a very loud person, but at band practice (which sometimes happens at night) and our bon fires we make enough noise for our next doors to hear for sure. So, when I know one of these things is going to go down, I go and talk to my neighbors, and say "hey man, we're gunna be hanging out tonight and we're gunna try and keep it down, but if we're too loud or someone parks insane (the island and its one road is SMALL and narrow so parking is serious business), just come let me know and I'll take care of it". Works every time. I even get teased when I go away for the weekend because they wanted to know "where all the music was this weeekend!?" See, respect is two way street. Respect is not being hella loud without thoughts to others until the COPS become a reality. Respect also isn't sitting in your house narking people out. But if one side doesn't show respect to the other, why should the same in return be a surprise?
thank you.. very well put.. it doesnt take much to touch base with your neighbors beforehand.. personal responsibility,common sense and respect.. these things seem to be lacking nowadays...
It would be nice if people had the smarts to think ahead and inform the people around them but then we live in a society that most dont know those around them, those around them seem to take offense and think that the person is doing them wrong out of malice and a society that would rather react then think it through. I would not call the police simply becuase I can remember being young, I can sleep with the stereo on, and I can loose a nights sleep and still function. This does not work well for all and I would not expect all if any to do as I do. Now the next day I would go over and have a chat with my party pals and let them know what it did to me and next time we need to work something out ahead of time. As far as respect I am sure they did not set out to be an issue, parties are about having fun for the most part and as fun rolls on you tend to forget about whats going on outside your party. If they are to learn respect perhaps showing them the way is better but police just seem to be to drastic for me for a first time deal and well I really would rather have my police working something more usefull to the community.
youth is no excuse for ignorance. a wise man once said, "A sign of wisdom and maturity is when you come to terms with the realization that your decisions cause your rewards and consequences. You are responsible for your life, and your ultimate success depends on the choices you make."
I think that all of us 20something year olds are lucky that HHB lives out in them woods where he can't call the cops on our asses
You're right, and personally I would not call the police... I'd be hard pressed to call the police over most things. But I think it's unfortunate that we're at a point in society where we don't know about our neighbors and having a party is an excuse to ignore the world around you. Yah know? I understand it happens, and that's why I wouldn't call the cops. But at the same time is awareness so much to ask? I don't expect it from others just because I do it, but I find it unfortunate that it's such an uncommon trait. [this might get ugly...] I think this growing lack of awareness is why you can go through the BUSTED threads in the MJ forum and see kids getting busted for pot over and over and over again by parents and johnny law (sure it can happen sometimes just out of bad luck, but over and over?). It's not hard to not get busted, just like it's not hard to be aware of your own party and be like, maybe we should be a little quiter I shouldn't need to scream across my living room to talk.... But it all goes back to my ideal of personal awareness and control, even under the influence of substances.
Having to watch cops tear my house apart because "it smelled like weed when we opened the door" (it did not!), I refuse to call the cops on anyone unless they're threatening us or our property in some way. Marijuana charges do suck ass, even before you get handed consequences. The court process is a long process of paperwork and bullshitting.
Why should I apologise for calling this person what she obviously is? I don't care how old she is. What she did could have cost people their futures, at worst. And why, because they betrayed her. Calling the police on somebody to get revenge is about as vindictive and yellowbelly as I can imagine. And she herself admits it was bitchy.