For so long I tried to defend certain presidents and certain aspects of politics thinking if we could just get someone with the right ideas things would work out. I had always heard that sence the reagan administration Daddy Bush was a crook with all the weapons sent to Saddam bought with cocain money from columbia drug lord (Manwel Noriaga? I spelled that wrong I know but you get the point!) I mean everything that has happened in the past 30 years has taken place during different terms of different presidents rather democrate or republicain and all lead to the same out come.... From the time Daddy Bush got the presidencie to monkey Bush taking over and in between it lead to the same horrible out come.... I don't trust gouverment period anymore regardless of who is in office.....
It is absolutely AMAZING how much hate people have! How can you seriously say you are for peace?? People on the left are acting like hypocrits! I mean, come on "Chimpy", "Monkey Bush", "Bush=Hitler"? I know it's a matter of opinion, I just wish anti-Bush people would actually display some CLASS and DIGNITY. Soooo childish.
It is absolutely AMAZING how much hate people have! King George pisses away the lives of thousand American family men, and causes the deaths of at least tens of thousands of people whose only crime was being caught in the middle. People are coming home missing arms and dicks and eyes- while the war profiteers raid the treasury and the Fox News set cheers for more blood and gore. Yeah, kill our people, commit crimes in our name, and steal from us- goddamn right we get hateful. How can you seriously say you are for peace? I'm more in favor of justice than peace. A lot of people in the admin have committed extremely serious crimes against our nation, and they need to be dealt in an extremely harsh manner. I mean, come on "Chimpy" Well, you certainly didn't misinterpret who was being spoken of. ...display some CLASS and DIGNITY. We're talking about a war based on lies- hell, Cheney said Iraq had nukes, what are you talking about with this "CLASS and DIGNITY" line? Show me the nukes and other WMDs in Iraq, then we'll see who has class and dignity.
Nah Hitler was a charismatic leader, bred by the powers to be in Germany (and Europe for that matter) to be liked by the people. As a good cultural father figure for the German people. Bush is a goon, who by the powers to be is meant to be ridiculed and made fun of. I see no connection of their personalities. Maybe the fact they both indulged in stimulant drugs, but nothing else. Bush is not to blame, just as Hitler was not to blame. The leader is only reflective of the powers that be. Its a known fact, even if nots recognized. I can understand your views of 911, Prescott Bush funding Nazis, the witch hunt for terrorists, the propaganda for further annihilation of Islam. Yet if you are basically a conspiracy person, which all of you are seeming to be. Then you must know that the Royal Family of Britain also funded Hitler and the Nazis. While allowing them to drop bombs on London, you must blame the Rockefellers and the Rotchilds, for organizing the Holocaust, and allowing their fellow Jews to be massacred. You must also acknowledge the long history unfolding since the crusdades connectiong secret societies of the muslim and western worlds. (check out my post on Al-Qaeda and the hashashin of Hassan Ibn Sabbah.) You must then also realize that the same Occult organizations behind the Ideals of the Nazi Empire, are the same ones carrying out their agenda in Zionist Israel. Research the Solomon Seal, the Star of David and the swastika, and you can see that they were all occult incantations found in ancient temples all over for the power of harnessing demons and jinn. You find the Solomon Seal was outlawed until the middle-ages by pious jews recognizing it was a Babylonian influence. Then all the sudden reappeared for a short stint with the Jewish Alchemists, and Kabbalists of hte middle ages. Now is all the sudden back again as the symbol of not the Jewish people, but instad a symbol of an Occult Conspiracy, and can sometimes be SUBSTITUED WITH A SWASTIKA. You must know that the Jewish people are innocent pawns, for powerhungry vultures all over feeding of their ideal of a vengeful god, and they're the chosen people to suffer. These are all things you must take into account before you compare Bush to Hitler. They were just as much victims as we are. Except they lived like "kings".
I agree that Bush is somewhat of a puppet, and therefore I feel sorry for him, and want to give him a shiney red ball to play with for hours upon hours. He doesnt know whats going on, he just wants war because Carl Rove keeps him hooked on Battlefield 2 and he feels like he is the man making all this fun happening. He has no idea where Iraqistan is, and if given a map, would most certainly doodle little happy faces on Brazil because he spotted the word "america" in South America. What we need to worry about is some caper happening in the white house, because I dont think Putin would take it too well when he calls him Batman and asks for help on the red phone.
See my posts in the thread 'Still Standing By Bush?'. Bush does not = Hitler, for pretty obvious reasons.
Yet in a fight I think Bush could own Hitler. Give hitler his daily shot of meth, and Bush a bottle of jack and an 8ball. Now that would be a good fight.
Can we just admit that they are both evil men who kill innocent people for their own gains? One was slightly better at speaking to people...
Technically no we can't because there aren't any recorded killings by Bush's hand, nor where there any of Hitlers. We can call them stupid assholes maybe. But not killers. We can call them evil minded, and spirited, perhaps truly evil, but there not killers. Untill I see a video of Bush kill someone I can't call him a killer. Hitler, supposedly never did, HImmler would do his dirty work example type events for him.
Dude, that does not negate their responsibility. So what if Bush isnt directly pressing the button, he is the president, he should not allow the people to be killed, and he was the voice of the American war machine that began the illegal and evil war. He is responsible. By no means is he the only one responsible, or even the most responsible, but he would be a jack at the very least on the imperialist asshole deck of cards.
Utter nonesense, that's what this thread is. Should be in the Pure Bull forum, right? Bill Clinton=Hitler, right???? Since he sent men over to Bosnia, Somalia, Kosovo,ect to die? No! Because Clinton, unlike Bush, does not resemble a monkey, and is therefore not as fun to ridicule and to hate. All pure nonesense, driven by pure hatred.
Still though your calling him a Killer, and a murderer. Both of these he hasn't done. Now indirect killing, that is a device of modern criminology and the courts. Devising a plan, and carrying it out "ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT". IM AGREEING WITH YOU ALL THAT IT IS EVIL. YET I WILL NOT CALL OUR PRESIDENT A MURDERER untill he pulls the trigger. In that case call, Lincoln, Truman, Roosevelt, NIxon. Call any president thats inderectly killed with a war campain to take peoples lives. Your just applying titles to this man he doesn't deserve. Unless it was actually him that blew up the towers, but this we may never know. The only way I will call our president a "Killer" is either seeing him or hearing of him kill someone directly, or finding out he issued the ok for the twin towers.
ok.....so lets just charge the hitman and forget about whoever hired them to do the killing. Clearly, since the hitman is the one who pulled the trigger, he is the only guilty person.....Nimrod, you are very simple minded, one may kill with a word if one is powerful. Both bush and hitler were powerful enough to kill with words. Words like "Wir mussen die Juden Ausrotten" or "We embark on this great crusade against terrah" kill. Ask an Iraqi who lost his children to the bombs who he blames....the guy in the plane who pushed the button, or the jackass in the whitehouse who sent him there to push the button.
BTW, Clinton was a killer, the fact that he is "liberal" does nothing to hide the fact that he is just as much of a corporate whore as the neoconservative bush regime is. Millions starved because he refused to step in and stop the exploitation of the developing world by the American Corporate elite. this is murder. Justify it any way you want, but people are STILL starving in the name of the wealthy elite, and the US president is STILL maintaining the status quo which keeps them starving. Capitalism Kills, not the Seal of Solomon or some other bullshit crypto-nazi conspiracy theory.
I didn't say shit about Clinton. I didn't say you shouldn't charge whoever is behind the hitman. ALL I SAID WAS THEY ARE NOT KILLERS. THEY ARE POWERFULL PEOPLE. I agree that they are responsible, but they aren't "KILLERS" THEY DIDNT FUCKING KILL ANYONE. THEY ISSUED AN ATTACK A SYMPTOM OF WAR. So your hitman analogy stops there. IM NOT DEFENDING BUSH,Im not even talking about Clinton. Im not defending Hitler. You say word has the power to kill, which in all fairness I will submit and say that is true, but dude people can give their own lives for beliefs, THEY DONT HAVE TO LISTEN, and follow orders. Its these people who are to blame, the people that conciously join the army, and follow these orders of mass murder, there to blame just as much as King Kobra in the tower, iwht his mask on and his flying escape machine. You obviously can't grasp anything man. The seal of solomon was only me trying to show you that Hitler wasn't in charge of the Nazis. He was the Darth Vader of the nazis if you are a metaphor/analogy type of person. There was a hidden emporer. Im trying to show you my proof but you don't understand. You believe history books are exact, and everybody tells the truth! Im not taking away from any of the victims of the Nazis, Im not saying they weren't evil. Im just pointing out the fact that whethever you like it or not, there is a deep seated connection between Israel and the Nazis.
ok.....I agree that Hitler wasnt the only guy in charge, but he did have a huge amount of Power, although the power he weilded over the third reich was nowhere near the amount of power Stalin had over the USSR. I do agree that the zionists had connections with the nazi's, but they did not control them. If they are as powerful as they say, the state of Israel would be far bigger and far worse than it is. I hate what Israel is doing, but it does have the potential to become far far worse. The people who join the army in the third reich (not counting the ones who were conscripted) were brainwashed and lied to. This is how an army works, they give a soldier a lie before they give him a gun. Goebbles was a good liar....one of the best. The Americo-Israeli propaganda machine is getting good now, it is even becomming "cool to be conservative" in certain circles. War is not cool. I would not fight, but then, I do not watch FOX news, so the pro-war propaganda machine has not affected me. These soldiers need to be taken out of Iraq and helped. They are not responsible for the war, even though it could not happen without them. It is the commanders and the politicians who initiated the war, lied to the soldiers, armed the soldiers, and ordered them to kill, threatening them with shame and hard time if they refuse. It is their fault, and the blood of the Iraqi's lies on their hands. in the words of Immortal Technique: "my enemy is the man I don't see: the people in the white house, the corporate monopoly owners, fake liberal politicians those are my enemies. The generals of the armies that are mostly conservatives those are the real Mother-Fuckers that I need to bring it to, not the poor, broke country-ass soldier that's too stupid to know shit about the way things are set up."