British QC for Saddam

They can deciede..but i think it has been given out evenly and ultimately fairly...With editing/censoring and such.. even if the media were to be given full unedited feeds [and no indicators point to they have not] can edit/censor [with a huge amount of spin and such] create their agenda anyway..

It was good news about Rory..not so good news about your second link..

 

The U.S. itself is putting a good spin on it. Note how Saddam's trial appearance was scheduled right after the Iraqi election.

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Thats called foreign negotiations: diplomatic policy

 

Nothing new about this stuff. Bundle trials with elections together to make things look good.

And when it comes to negative news, leave press reports on Friday evening of 3-day holiday weekends, like they did on Labor Day weekend when they released some material of Bush's guard record (or lack of it). Or even better, when they had Condi Rice testify late afternoon of Holy Thursday of the 4-day Easter holiday weekend when no one was around to hear it.

Terror warnings are a nice distraction too, like the NYC subway ones made during the week when DeLay was being indicted.

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I heard Saddam's 'trial' will be delayed for about 4 month. I'm sure they'll either bundle his next appearance with something they think is good or use it to offset some bad news.

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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/20102005/325/saddam-trial-adjourns-defence-buys-time.html

YOUR SO CYNICAL

 

Oops. 40 days, not 4 months.

Now I have to look up what event is going on in Iraq in 40 days.

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Why not see what happens....

 

Much of the time I don't have to, like when the White House kept delaying Condi's appearance at the Iraq hearings all the way until Easter approached.

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Internal machinations aside... obviously it is possible to overlay particular events with others.. As the news is 'rolling' it would not fundementaly matter when she did what.. it might have made headlines over in the US ..but meh, whatever.

 

You thought that the White House choosing to have Condi testify on Holy Thursday was an accident?

It matters as far as the news getting to the public and people's perceptions. It's part of the psychological games that politicians play to mold public opinion.

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Ok ..maybe not.. but on the other hand, so what ?..
It is what is said that matters.
Don't you think your just as bad for attributing something that may or may not be true.. heck ever heard of coincidence ?

 

Definately no coincidence on that one. Shaping public opinion matters. It matters to one's votes.

The Bush administration got a majority of the public to believe Saddam was behind 911. It was a non-stop message with Saddam and 911 used in the same sentence. After a while, the American public fell for it. They capitalized off of people's fears of 911, at a time when people's minds could be molded most easily.

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How can it be 'shaping public opinion' ?..

Thats not true..



King.

Q Mr. President, Dr. Rice and Secretary Rumsfeld both said yesterday that they have seen no evidence that Iraq had anything to do with September 11th. Yet, on Meet the Press, Sunday, the Vice President said Iraq was a geographic base for the terrorists and he also said, I don't know, or we don't know, when asked if there was any involvement. Your critics say that this is some effort -- deliberate effort to blur the line and confuse people. How would you answer that? THE PRESIDENT: We've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the September 11th. What the Vice President said was, is that he has been involved with al Qaeda. And al Zarqawi, al Qaeda operative, was in Baghdad. He's the guy that ordered the killing of a U.S. diplomat. He's a man who is still running loose, involved with the poisons network, involved with Ansar al-Islam. There's no question that Saddam Hussein had al Qaeda ties.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/09/20030917-7.html

You might think lines were 'blured'..

 

I wonder what people are thinking sometimes. Politics is a game of shaping people's opinions. They use whatever they can, whether it's burying bad news on Friday evening press releases or capitalizing off of people fears related to 911. Look at history and all of the propaganda techniques that governments have used to get the public behind them in a time of war or for anything else for that matter.

The government is clever in these tactics. They didn't have any evidence that Saddam was making any serious progress with a nuclear weapons either, but Bush popped off statements about the mushroom cloud rising over the U.S. if action wasn't taken against Iraq. Much the same with the case of Saddam and 911. They didn't have evidence with him being connected to 911 but they used the fears of 911 and continual references to Saddam, 911, and al Qaeda to mold people's beliefs. They know how capitalize off of people's fears to sway their beliefs a particular way.

However, it looks like the American public's moldability is decreasing of late regarding Iraq. They don't seem to be buying the lines that the government was handing them the past few years.

I should dig up some of Bush State of the Union speeches and count how many times he made reference to 911. He mentioned it numerous times at the beginning of the July 2 speech about Iraq that he gave in 2005 when he supposedly was going to offer a new plan for Iraq but didn't.

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BTW, once again, nice timing for the White House picking July 2nd to try to capitalize off the patriotic fervor and try to get the public back on its side about Iraq.

I know, it was just a coincidence.

And it was a coicincidence that Bush just happened to be on the baseball games all over the country on the 4th with messages about supporting the Iraq war.

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And why all this fuss about Iraq and al Qaeda? I don't think I've ever heard Bush elaborate on al Qaeda in Pakistan or Saudi Arabia, where they were based. (I'm sure someone will dig something up to try to show otherwise, though ). Bush sure doesn't rant about the lack of democracy in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia like he did about Iraq. Much of the focus has always been on Iraq which had little or nothing to do with al Qaeda and nothing to do with 911.

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Your absolutly amazing shaggie.. really i don't honestly know how you manage it.

 

http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/01/14/saddam-judge-060114.html

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