Stop believing your POV is the only POV...apart from being arrogant it's insulting. If there was only one way to interpret the Torah all Jews would be saying the same thing, and living their lives the same way. They don't. So quit thinking you have the ultimate or divine answers. You don't. Just continue spitting out your hate...if that's what you wish to do. It doesn't bother me. I'm not going to argue with you anymore because: 1. You are not listening. 2. You said: I am going to do post this material gradually in the days and weeks ahead (which suggests all you really want to do - and have been doing - is just post your POV, regardless of what else is said. It might be a ploy for attention, it might be the worst kind of spamming known to forums... It could be all manner of reasons you post here... I don't care...I've given you enough of my time, and I refuse to give anymore. Blah Blah Blah.
www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3356741,00.html << Jewish settlers desecrate graves, wreak havoc in Palestinian village << Ronny Shaked << Published: 01.25.07, 11:17 / Israel News << "Death to Arabs" was just one of the hateful messages left by Jewish settlers on Muslim graves after a destructive rampage on a << cemetery and village near Nablus Tuesday.
I suppose that I have no other choice but to agree with you here, when you say that there ARE lots of Jews who DON'T go along with the idea that they're supposed to commit mass murder against their "goy" neighbors, as the Torah commands. Thank goodness for that ! But on the other side of the coin, we also have the example of the "heroic" IDF using field howitzers to plant cluster bombs all over the Lebanese countryside. We also have the example of those "brave" Jewish soldiers who seem to "get off" on shooting "goy" women in their pregnant bellies with full-metal-jacket rounds. I hate to say it, but the soldiers are definitely behaving in accordance with Torah standards when they commit atrocities against non-Jews, while their "refusnik" brethren are definitely straying from the roots of their religion when they show even the smallest concern for the lives of goyim.
The following passage was taken from an English translation of the Jewish Tanach or Pentateuch. It can be found in the book of D'varim or Deuteronomy. I'd really like to know if you're able to "read things" into the passage which aren't readily apparent. Let's brainstorm on this one ! I'm looking forward to seeing everybody's different "interpretation" of this sacred passage. --------------------------------------------- Deuteronomy, Chapter 20 (King James Version): 10 When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it. 11 And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, that all the people that is found therein shall be tributaries unto thee, and they shall serve thee. 12 And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it: 13 And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword: 14 But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee. 15 Thus shalt thou do unto all the cities which are very far off from thee, which are not of the cities of these nations. 16 But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/dec/24/israel1 << "Chinese workers in Israel sign no-sex contract" << "Chinese workers at a company in Israel have been forced to agree not to have sex with or marry Israelis as a condition of getting a job. According to a contact they are required to sign, male workers may not have any contact with Israeli women - including prostitutes, a police spokesman, Rafi Yaffe, said."
We can only speculate as to why they don't want Chinese workers to have sex with Israeli women. Do you suppose that it could have something to do with the "racist" ideology of Judaism ?
lol...grasping at straws again...this one was intriguing, however...so I'll bite: It does seem that views within Israel itself are mixed and the law revolving around mixed marriages is a joke. Wiki: However, Israel does recognise civil or religious marriages entered into outside Israel. As a result, it is not uncommon for couples who may for some reason not be able (or chose not) to get married in Israel to travel overseas to get married. One out of every ten Israelis who married in 2000 did so abroad mainly because they could not marry in Israel. 2,230 couples who married abroad consisted of two Israeli partners, and another 3,660 couples consisted of one Israeli partner and one non-Israeli. So, again...it is all down to interpretation and the views of the people rather than the religion itself. I like how all you're e.g are within the strict world of Israel..and not how Judaism is practiced around the world...which is vastly different. But things seem to be changing even in Israel. 2003 (same year) New approach to mixed faith marriage blessings We are pleased to announce a significant new development in the Liberal Judaism approach to mixed faith marriage blessings. As part of an evolutionary process, the Rabbinic Conference of the Union of Liberal and Progressive Synagogues has been reviewing the rules that have been in force for some years regarding rabbinic participation in blessings for mixed faith marriages. The major changes that have been agreed include allowing a blessing for such marriages to be given in a synagogue and for accepting the participation of a non-Jewish minister at those blessings. Until now, blessings have been carried out at the discretion of a rabbi, but not on synagogue premises. These are natural developments given that most Liberal Synagogues already welcome non-Jewish spouses and partners as Friends or Associates. While these blessings remain an extension of our inclusive nature, they are not to be seen as Jewish weddings and have no status in either Jewish or civil law. Next: Isn't it strange how Jews butcher their children by cutting off their foreskin.
http://www.daatemet.org.il/daathalacha/en_gentiles5.html < "Jews, therefore, are the 'true humanity,' whereas the Gentiles are only 'on a low level of humanity'; Jews 'are true humanity from its authentic roots,' whereas the other nations are 'all on the level of Man in his fallen state' -- and therefore 'are treated as ones belonging to completely different genera.'">
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3068007,00.html < By Doron Sheffer < Published: 04.04.05, 21:43 / Israel News < "We must see to it that Israel remains Jewish, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said Monday during a meeting on the drafting of a law that would specify the criteria necessary for obtaining residency status in Israel." >
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/891889.html < < "At the height of the fury and the humiliation, the children of Hebron wandered around among the men in uniform, trying to figure out who was Jewish and who was not - who is from "our" seed, and who is from the seed of Amalek. ... Anyone whose non-Jewishness was discovered received the appropriate treatment: The wild, bleary-eyed little ones mercilessly hurled curses and insults at them. They are mere children and already experts in racial theory." > > ------------------------------------------------------------ Exodus, Chapter 17 (King James Version): 14 And the LORD said unto Moses, Write this for a memorial in a book, and rehearse it in the ears of Joshua: for I will utterly put out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven. 15 And Moses built an altar, and called the name of it Jehovahnissi: 16 For he said, Because the LORD hath sworn that the LORD will have war with Amalek from generation to generation.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/2125 << "However, we already knew that this war is for us - i.e., the Jews and Israel. Chazal - our sages - throughout the ages have explained the Torah, telling us that everything that happens in the world is for the benefit of the Jewish People. Simply put another way, if all the world is a stage, then the Jews - and especially those in the Land of Israel - are the lead actors on the stage of history, and the goyim - the nations, i.e. the gentiles - have supporting roles, while the evil-doers are props and background scenery. As our tradition states, G-D - the great playwright - created the world for the sake of the Jewish People, and it is our responsibility to implement the Torah - absolute morality and the blueprint of creation - in it.">>
http://web.archive.org/web/20050305...e.com/news_opinion/news/2005/february/18.html < "When the couple registered at the rabbinate, the marriage registrar referred Plotnikov to a rabbinic court for a process for ascertaining Jewishness. This is a procedure which all immigrants from the FSU are required to undergo if they want to marry." >
I Samuel, Chapter 15 (King James Version): 3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
Rabbinical Court allows cohen to marry daughter of non-Jew. In an unusual decision which came on the heels of intervention by the Prime Minister's Office, the High Rabbinical Court in Jerusalem recently ruled that a member of the priestly cohen caste may marry the daughter of a non-Jew. The case began in the summer of 2004, when Rabbinate officials told Shmuel Cohen and Irena Plotnikov that they could not marry, even though Plotnikov, an immigrant from the former Soviet Union whose mother is Jewish, had already had her Jewish status approved upon entering the country. The court rejected Cohen and Plotnikov on the basis that a member of the priestly cohen caste, of which Cohen is said to be descended, cannot marry a woman whose father is not Jewish. Chief Sephardic Rabbi Shlomo Amar, who is also president of the High Rabbincal Court, said that the court's decision was based not on PMO intervention, but on the opinion of Shas spiritual leader Rabbi Ovadia Yosef. The Prime Ministers' Office intervened on behalf of the couple last summer when approached by Alex Tanzer, a social activist for the advancement of civil marriages. Tanzer had argued that because Cohen had served and was wounded in Israel's wars, he should be permitted to marry his fiancee. Tanzer said the court's recent deicison would serve as a precedent to allow many other couples to marry in Israel. www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=702376 Please get your facts in order. It greatly increases the believability you are not a prejudiced bigot trying to find anything to post that vaguely sounds like you are making a valid point.
http://dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=2&article_id=74078 << Latest targets of air blitz: milk and medicine << By Lysandra Ohrstrom << Daily Star staff << Wednesday, July 19, 2006 << Israel switched gears in its military campaign against Lebanon Monday and Tuesday, launching a series of debilitating air strikes against privately owned factories throughout the country and dealing a devastating blow to an economy already paralyzed by a week of hits on residential areas and crucial infrastructure. >>
Deuteronomy, Chapter 14 (King James Version) : 21 Ye shall not eat of anything that dieth of itself: thou shalt give it unto the stranger that is in thy gates, that he may eat it; or thou mayest sell it unto an alien: for thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk.
Numbers, Chapter 31 (King James Version): 3 And Moses spake unto the people, saying, Arm some of yourselves unto the war, and let them go against the Midianites, and avenge the LORD of Midian. 4 Of every tribe a thousand, throughout all the tribes of Israel, shall ye send to the war. 5 So there were delivered out of the thousands of Israel, a thousand of every tribe, twelve thousand armed for war. 6 And Moses sent them to the war, a thousand of every tribe, them and Phinehas the son of Eleazar the priest, to the war, with the holy instruments, and the trumpets to blow in his hand. 7 And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males. 8 And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain; namely, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, five kings of Midian: Balaam also the son of Beor they slew with the sword. 9 And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods. 10 And they burnt all their cities wherein they dwelt, and all their goodly castles, with fire. 11 And they took all the spoil, and all the prey, both of men and of beasts. 12 And they brought the captives, and the prey, and the spoil, unto Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and unto the congregation of the children of Israel, unto the camp at the plains of Moab, which are by Jordan near Jericho. 13 And Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and all the princes of the congregation, went forth to meet them without the camp. 14 And Moses was wroth with the officers of the host, with the captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, which came from the battle. 15 And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? 16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD. 17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentateuch << "The term 'Torah' (Hebrew: תּוֹרָה, 'teaching' or 'instruction', sometimes translated as 'law'[1]), refers either to the Five Books of Moses (or Pentateuch) or to the entirety of Judaism's founding legal and ethical religious texts ... The Torah is the most holy of the sacred writings in Judaism.[4] It is the first of three sections in the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible), the founding religious document of Judaism,[5] and is divided into five books, whose names in English are Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy ..." >>
You seem to be missing the point, as usual. A proceeding was held for the purpose of "ascertaining the Jewishness" of a couple that was hoping to get married. The woman was forced to submit evidence of her genetic makeup to the rabbinical court. This is racism. It only serves to underscore the "racist" nature of Judaism. If Judaism wasn't "racist," there would have been absolutely NO inquiries into the genetic makeup of this couple.