No one on this thread seems to know the TRUTH about the GLOBAL WARMING situatiion (METEOROLOGY, CLIMATOLOGY) and the "HYPER-DIMENSIONAL" POWER GENERATION SCIENCES. Let me explain: PART 1 - GLOBAL WARMING GLOBAL WARMING is just another DISINFORMATION campaign, through SOCIAL ENGINEERING (blaming cars' and factories' CO2 emissions): PURPOSE: 1) Establish NEW TAXATION basis for planetary government, and 2) Reduce NON-CARTEL DEVELOPMENT in 3rd world countries. (LINK: www.ken-welch.com/Central.html ) "These dire predictions are merely another social engineering ploy aimed at further de-industrialization, in order to achieve THE ILLUMINATI goal of REDUCING THE GLOBAL POPULACE to mediaeval serfdom. This is why it is incumbent upon you, dear reader, to conduct your own research, instead of leaving the task to 'experts' whose liveihood is in the hands of THEIR ILLUMINATI OVERLORDS." "These DOOMSAYERS are primarily basing their claims upon computer models, not upon empirical data. In actuality, CARBON DIOXIDE is merely a secondary greenhouse gas - water vapor possessing twice the greenhouse effect, even though it is being ignored in environmental studies. Water vapor and other primary greenhouse gases such as ozone, cause greenhouse warming when acted upon by solar radiation. Since solar radiation is variable, so global temperatures vary accordingly. Another variable is the amount of water vapor present in the atmosphere; every minute, approximately 20 ice comets weighing about 100 tons apiece enter the earth's atmosphere and vaporize, continually adding to our planet's water content." "Claims that we are in a GLOBAL WARMING PERIOD are primarily based upon temperatures recorded by small boxes as STEVENSON SCREENS; the majority of these are located in cities, where thermal radiation from large expanses of asphalt and contrete result in temperatures higher than those encountered in sparsely-populated areas. The system DOES NOT RECORD OCEAN TEMPERATURES. Since 75% OF THE PLANET'S SURFACE IS COVERED BY WATER AND ICE, a false impression is created from such recorded data." "A much more accurate depiction of global temperatures is provided by NOAA weather satellites, which record temperatures of the lower atmoshere in a uniform planetary sweep. Nineteen years of data recorded by NOAA reveals that LITTLE, or NO GLOBAL WARMING has occured during this time period." "The notion that CFC's are responsible for the hole in the OZONE LAYER at the South Pole is ludicrous, since the hole was observed prior to the introduction of CFC's. Moreover, CFC MOLECULES are so heavy that they sink into the soil, where they are consumed by ANAEROBIC BACTERIA. Studies conducted at China's Changchun University suggest that solar high energy particles consume ozone over the Antarctic. CFC patents held by DUPONT were about to expire, which would have permitted third world nations to manufacture their own CFC'S, DUPONT accordingly developed the flammable and toxic HCFC as a replacement product and enlisted UNITED NATIONS aid in imposing a global ban on the more efficient and safe CFC'S, thereby providing DUPONT with a new MONOPOLY MARKET and multi-billion dollar windfall profits." (LINK: GLOBAL WARMING section: www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_tavistock04.htm ) Another reason FREON (R-12) was taken off the market, deals with a FREE ENERGY device, i.e. "a FREON, lo-temp phase-change engine": "Dennis Lee: Freon Engines Dennis Lee during the 1980's invented a freon-based low-temperature phase-change engine similar to Bob Stewart's heat engine. The father of the Boeing 747 and other highly qualified people helped Dennis perfect his engine. A small plant was established in Seattle to produce and sell a commercial home-scale electrical generator. A Seattle area power company (the same one that became infamous for its WHOOPS nuclear plant) campaigned to shut down the plant." "An interesting claim he made was that freon has been scientifically determinted to be not destructive of the Earth's ozone layer. He said that the secret group that had been suppressing clean energy innventions is so afraid of his inventions that they had cleverly arranged a ban on freon regrigerant in air conditioners, etc. in order to stop him." (LINK: "History of 'New Energy" Invention Suppression Cases", By Gary Vesperman, 6-19-6. www.rense.com/general72/oinvent.htm ) Now, you know of 2 reasons why FREON (R-12) was taken off of the market, by ECONOMICALLY-GREEDY energy companies and international bankers! FREON (R-12) is LESS FLAMMABLE and LESS TOXIC, than its current replacement: HCFC! CFC MOLECULES are HEAVIER than air, CANNOT reach the upper atmospheres (like the OZONE layer) and just SINK into the Earth's soils, where they are just CONSUMED by ANAEROBIC BACTERIA! But WHAT DOES harm (i.e. deplete) our Earth's OZONE LAYER? The answer is simple: !) SOLAR RADIATION entering intensely at the poles, and 2) High-frequency Active Aurorol Research Program (HAARP) experiments for: "the Study of Ionospheric Physics and Radio Science", utilizing extremely high-powered MICROWAVE transmitters, which can "cook" our atmosphere! (LINK: HAARP Home Page - www.haarp.alaska.edu ) How can the OZONE HOLES be fixed? Simple: "Seed" (by CHEM-TRAIL spraying) the OZONE HOLES with fine SELENIUM (Se, 34) particles, which emit OZONE (O-3), when activated by the Sun's SOLAR RADIATION! This process is the same type of chemical reaction, that occurs in copying machines (like XEROX copiers, for example). Ultra-violet (UV) rays hit the SELENIUM ATOMS/MOLECULES, and they EMIT OZONE (O-3)! If GLOBAL WARMING is just a DISINFORMATION agenda, then what's with our weird weather and increase in earthquakes and volcanos? The UNITED STATES and THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION have developed, tested and used GEO-PHYSICAL WARFARE WEAPONS (based on the discoveries and inventions of NIKOLA TESLA - mostly), which can CONTROL THE WEATHER ("WEATHER WARS") and create EARTHQUAKES ("TECTONIC WARFARE" via NIKOLA TESLA"S "EARTHQUAKE MACHINE"). For extensive information on this, consult ex-ARMY COLONEL TOM BEARDEN's excellant website: LINK: www.cheniere.org . The HAARP project is much involved in WEATHER CONTROL. When MANKIND is influencing (and possibly changing NATURAL WEATHER and CLIMATE patterns), it's difficult to gather TRUE SCIENTIFIC DATA on the Earth and Sun's NATURAL weather and climate patterns! Our atmosphere may not be heating up, but many scientists believe that our planet Earth's CORE IS GETTING HOTTER!!! Earthquakes and volcanos have increased by 500%, since the early part of the 1900's, until NOW! This is a more serious condition than GLOBAL WARMING! If our CORE gets TOO HOT, it could LIQUIFY our MOLTEN MAGMA too much, and CAUSE our outer CRUST to "slip" (i.e. "detach" and move about "freely") BIG TIME, and move, to cause GLOBAL CATCLYSMS!!! This situation is similar to a "slipping" TRANSMISSION. NOT GOOD!!! Increased VOLCANOISM, under some of the NORTH POLE's glaciers has increased, so some melting has occurred of these glaciers. However, other parts of the NORTH POLE have gotten colder and snowier, to balance off the effects of the few glaciers melting! What is making our planet Earth's CORE HEAT UP? There are 2 main ideas that have been on the internet, for many years, explaining this, namely: 1) The passage of our planet Earth into a more HIGHLY-ENERGETIC area of outer space, as we travel around as part of our MILKY WAY GALAXY's natural revolutions (like a giant COSMIC WHEEL)! Some have labeled this "HIGHLY-ENERGETIC" area of outer space as: THE PHOTON BELT. Another similar idea is that sometime at the end of A.D. 2012, our planet Earth will pass THROUGH the MILKY WAY's "galactic center-plane", which may be a flattened-out section of our MILKY WAY GALAXY's gigantic BLACK HOLE (located at its CENTER)! Or, we may just be BOMBARDED with the BLACK HOLE's INTENSE ENERGIES!!! This is believed to also cause our planet Earth's SHIFT into 5-Dimensional HYPER-SPACE, i.e. our NEXT PHASE of HUMAN EVOLUTION! Freaky FRACTAL-CORE, stuff!!! Talk about TRIPPING!!! 2) The passage of our SUN's (SOL's) THIRD STAR (plus it's associated planets, moons, asteroids, inter-stellar gases and cosmic dust (that's ME!) THROUGH OUR SOLAR SYSTEM, by swinging around our SUN (SOL) on its regular 3,600 year ORBIT! After it swings around our SUN (SOL), it heads back to our STAR SYSTEM's SECOND STAR (possibly a DEAD, black, "burned-out" STAR, or a BROWN-DWARF STAR), where it then then swings around that STAR, and heads back to our STAR - the SUN (SOL), which is classified as a MEDIUM-SIZED, YELLOW, VARIABLE STAR. That VARIABLE part is dangerous to us, as if the SUN (SOL) expands a little, and puts out TOO MUCH RADIATION (in one of its VARIABLE STAR "phases"), then it would fry us, as it is believed to have done so, to the DINOSAURS!!! Most STAR SYSTEMS in our MILKY WAY GALAXY are composed of 2 (bianary) or 3 (trianary) more stars. Our own SOL (SUN) STAR SYSTEM may be the same! The STAR SYSTEM of ALPHA CENTAURI has 3 stars (ALPHA, BETA, PROXIMA) and the STAR SYSTEM of SIRIUS has 3 STARS (A, B and C). Our THIRD STAR (believed to be a BROWN-DWARF, about 3X the size of our planet JUPITER) has many names: PLANET X (scientific designation), NIBIRU (ancient SUMERIAN), WORMWOOD (THE BIBLE/REVELATIONS), and so forth. Almost everytime that our THIRD STAR (plus its planetary system) passes around our STAR (SUN/SOL) and THROUGH our SOLAR SYSTEM, it results in POLE-SHIFTS and CATACLYSMS1 It is commonly called: "The passage of NIBIRU", and supposedly was blamed for THE GREAT FLOOD (and resulting sinkings of ATLANTIS and LEMURIA (MU), around 12,000 B.C., plus "THE PLAGUES" of THE BIBLE)!!! NIBIRU supposedly returns at the end of THE MAYAN CALENDER, on DECEMBER 21, A.D. 2012, to complete one of its 3,600 year orbits!!! But then, there is a 25,000 year GALACTIC CYCLE, then, resulting in our planet Earth's passage into 5-Dimensional HYPER-SPACE (MAYAN: "transition from the 5th to 6th WORLDS", BIBLICAL/REVELATIONS: "transition of the OLD EARTH to THE NEW JERUSALEM ("HEAVEN")"!!! Is the passage of our THIRD STAR (PLANET X, NIBIRU, WORMWOOD), and its resulting WORLD-WIDE CATACLYMS (in A.D. 2012-A.D. 2013) COVERED-UP, by THE GLOBAL ELITISTS (so THEY have time to prepare and SAVE THEMSELVES!), or is it another PSY-OPS, SOCIAL ENGINEERING agenda, called: "JANUS END-TIMES PROGRAMMING", by the GLOBAL ELITISTS??? THE MAYANS, THE HOPI NATIVE AMERICANS and THE BIBLE, been around a long time, so their PROPHECIES may ring true! In conclusion, GLOBAL WARMING is just DISINFORMATION, shelling out JUNK SCIENCE, to satisify a SOCIAL ENGINERING hidden agenda. AUTOMOBILES' CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSIONS aren't a big enough factor to cause GLOBAL WARMING, although they are not healthy to breath! I'd worry more about our planet Earth's CORE HEATING UP and/or our SUN (SOL) putting out TOO MUCH SOLAR RADIATION (during one of its "VARIABLE STAR's" expansion phases}!!! In PART 2: HYPER-DIMENSIONAL POWER GENERATION SCIENCES, I'll get into how FREE ENERGY DEVICES and ANTI-GRAVITY DEVICES can revolutionize the AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY, without using any types of BURNING FUELS for propulsion (and its resulting POLLUTION)! Plus, the TECHNOLOGIES that can achieve these GOALS have existed for some time, but were SUPPRESSED!!!
"Global Warming" is a green herring being used by the corporate-sponsored pseudo-environmental movement to distract the populace from the real damage being done to the Earth by mining and industrial agriculture and freshwater depletion and oceanic pollution and manufacturing and industrial silviculture and construction and refining and dams and roading.... The last thing in the world corporations want to do is de-industrialize. Because, although industry is the most inefficient and destructive way to go about producing the needful things of life, it is VERY good at keeping the good jobs and the profits in the hands of the worlds elite, which are the 500 million or so Middle-Classers. You know you are dealing with psuedo-progressives when they start ranting about evil cabals of rich people who are to blame for everything that happens. It's like the Christians blaming the Devil for everything bad they do. It's a copout. The Middle-Class controls the vast bulk of the world's wealth. THEY are the "evil cabal of rich people" who are destroying the world and who control it with their vicious armies. But they don't mean any harm. They just don't know how else to live. Littlefoot
Littlefoot, Most of what you said in your posted reply to me is true, from my perspective. I think HOLOGRAPHICALLY, from a HYPER-DIMENSIONAL perspective. WISE MEN admit they know nothing! Otherwise, how can you learn anything, if you claim to know everything! My philosophy is to: LEARN something NEW everyday! To learn things, you must even read "opposing points of view" and have MULTIPLE VIEWPOINTS and THEORIES. Learn all you can with RESERVE JUDGEMENT. You aquire as much knowledge as possible, even if it is sounds riduculous, seems like lies, dis- and mis-information and from as many subjects as possibe, even extra-terrestrial subjects, so-called "classified" info, mind control info and spiritual realms. Then, try to seperate "the WHEAT (TRUTH) from the CHAFF (LIES)". Information from "the horse's mouth" is best, i.e. people who have had DIRECT EXPERIENCES, with the subject matter. Try to "connnect the dots" (an INTELLIGENCE term) and put the puzzle pieces together to form the BIG PICTURE. People on top of the PYRAMID, have a PROJECTIVE-GEOMETRIC PERSPECTIVE, to see the BIG PICTURE, while those BELOW, have a few puzzle pieces not lined-up properly. The TOP of the PYRAMID is like the "EYE OF GOD" concept. From ONLY that ONE-PERSPECTIVE, can you see ALL of the UNIVERSAL PIECES line-up into PERFECT ORDER! THE UNIVERSAL PUZZLE is complete and in full view! It's called PROJECTIVE GEOMETRY. I will give a COSMIC PERSPECTIVE and a DOWN-TO-EARTH PERSPECTIVE: -A COSMIC PERSPECTIVE - As far as who is to BLAME for our planet's current mode of "self-destruction", through INDUSTRIAL toxic waste productions and violent wars, with weapons of MASS DESTRUCTION, it is difficult to determine! ARE CARS TO BLAME? As a result, many CONSPIRACIES (both REAL and THEORY) result. However, in a way, WE ALL ARE TO BLAME! Why are we all to blame? In QUANTUM PHYSICS: "THOUGHT structures REALITY." I never was a Scientologist, but I had an old high school friend who was, but eventually quit, and told me that Scientologist's teach that: "REALITY is by AGREEMENT." This is pretty much what QUANTUM PHYSICS states. Our "structured REALITY - THE MATRIX?) is a result of planetary GROUP CONSCIOUSNESS. If you believe in HYPER-DIMENSIONAL PHYSICS-REALITIES and SPIRITUAL REALMS (which I assure you that the so-called ILLUMINATI, FREEMASONS, BLACK and MAGIC OPS PROJECTS, NSA, KGB and most GLOBAL ELITIST RULERS DO BELIEVE IN, and USE ADVANCED TECHNOLOGIES (some RETRO-ENGINEERED from ET/ALIEN craft and DIRECT ET/ALIEN knowledge transfers) and PSYCHIC ABILITIES to rule), then our experiences on this planet are set-up like a COSMIC SCHOOL, for spiritual lessons to be learned. Of course, you possess an ETERNAL (or at least a very long-lasting) SPIRIT/SOUL/CONSCIOUSNESS, where the universe is ONE BIG SCHOOL and A PLAYGROUND for "EXPERIENCES". REINCARNATION is one tool used for "spiritual lessons", but doesnt have to be used. In the higher dimensions, 3-Dimensional matter doesn't exist, as such! ROBERT O. DEAN was a MILITARY INTELLIGENCE OFFICER, who had a COSMIC TOP SECRET clearance. In MAY 2007 (in PHOENIX, ARIZONA) he gave an interview with MARIA SCAHFER for PROJECT CAMELOT (www.projectcamelot.net) and had this to say: "You know, I don't come often. I really am a coward when it comes to incarnating on the planet Earth. You know I've heard and you've probably heard, that it's common word that if you can come to planet Earth and get through a life or two here, you get a graduation certificate because you have concluded one of the most difficult schools in the UNIVERSE. Planet Earth is apparently known throughout the galaxy as a rough school. So I don't come often." LINK: www.projectcamelot.net/bob_dean_interview_transcript_3.html BOB DEAN remembers one past life-time in ANCIENT SUMER, and another one as a 13th Century TEMPLAR KNIGHT. He read a highly-classified document called: "THE ASSESSMENT", dealing with the EXTRA-TERESTRIAL situation. He said that RUSSIA had a similar document, with similar conclusions. There are about a BILLION stars in our MILKY-WAY GALAXY, and at least a BILLION GALAXIES in our known universe It is extremely-doubtful that we are the ONLY INTELLIGENT LIFE in the UNIVERSE! Why are ET/ALIEN subjects CLASSIFIED WAY ABOVE NUCLEAR SECRETS? More TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED hardware, then our "CHILD's TOYS" HARDWARE! The reason that I mention the ET/ALIEN info (called EXOPOITICS - www.exopolitics.com), is because there are way too many ET/ALIEN and CONSPIRACY WEBSITES (especially DAVID ICKE's www.reptilianagenda.com ) and "You Tube" videos that BLAME our current state of affairs on REPTILIAN-ALIEN OVERLORDS (whether REPTOIDS, and/or "THE GREYS"), usually from the DRACO CONSTELLATION. SATANISTS claim that DEMONS are really REPTILIAN-HUMANOID ALIENS from the Serpens Caputs STAR SYSTEM! Ask ARIZONA WILDER (an ex-MOTHER GODDESS of SATANISM)! She's on "You Tube" videos. Almost all of our RELIGIOUS BELIEFS (even NATIVE AMERICAN BELIEFS) mention: snakes, reptiles, dragons, THE SERPENT RACE, "GODS" who came from the heavens (outer space), many of them REPTILIAN in form. SIOUX means "SNAKE" and LAKOTA means "SERPENT". THE HOPI Native Americans claimed some direct contacts with 'The BLUES" and "The GREYS", plus they said that they originated from the STARS! The FREEMASONS have connections to the SIRIAN STAR SYSTEM! "The DEVIL" has two aspects to it: 1) The DEVIL is a "personification" of humankind's FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN. MAN is a "creature of COMFORT". He usually resists DRAMATIC CHANGES, and PREFERS STABILITY. NEW DISCOVERIES and TECHNOLGIES, have always been feared, and sometimes called SATANIC. GAS LIGHTING (with pipes) in the home, ELECTRICITY in the home, NUCLEAR POWER, etc. The invention and introduction of AUTOMOBILES met resistance, as HENRY FORD found out! It would UPSET the APPLE CART! DESTROY our ECONOMY! DRAMATICALLY change our LIFESTYLES! 2) The DEVIL is merely an EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL/ALIEN (DRACO REPTILIAN ALIEN, mostly) and/or an ULTRA-DIMENSIONAL LIFE-FORM, who just have their own AGENDAS, with many CONFLICTING with ours. CONSERVATIVE, TRADITIONAL CHRISTIANS just believe in a simple GOD or DEVIL philosophy. ALIEN beings are merely "DEMONS trying to fool us!". But THE BIBLE also talked about BEINGS from OUTER SPACE that MATED with HUMANS (who were NOT DEVILS)! STEWART SWERDLOW (MONTAUK - time travel and materialization project of the US GOVERNMENT), made these charts up: (Stewart Swerdlow on the Illuminati and the structure of this reality) LINK: www.2012.com.au/Swerdlow.html See any beings on this chart to BLAME for ENVIROMENTAL PROBLEMS? God, Christ, Angels, Demons, ET ALIENS or us? In the alleged ALIEN (ET) contacts with humans (average citizens, INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS - NSA, MAJESTIC-12, WORLD LEADERS - U.S. PRESIDENTS, etc.) whether through CHANNELING, or ACTUAL DIRECT CONTACT, their message is almost always the same, i.e. WE HUMANS are messing up our own planet, mostly through POLLUTION (chemical and nuclear radiation)! WE are to BLAME for our own DESTINY!!! -DOWN-TO-EARTH PERSPECTIVE- It doesn't take ET/ALIENS to tell us how much we messed-up the NATURAL ENVIRONMENT of our planet, with TOXIC CHEMICALS, BIO-WEAPONS and NUCLEAR RADIATION! Fertlizer run-offs hurt our oceans (create "DEAD ZONES"), "CHEMTRAIL" sprays and INDUSTRIAL AIR POLLUTION foul our air, nuclear reactor accidents, nuclear weapons testings and use, depleted uranium artillery, planes and shells contaminate almost everything! When we use drugs, they get excreted out of our bodies, go into the sewer systems, then eventually end up in our water supplies, where we ingest them again! AS HUMAN CONSUMERS, WE ALL ARE TO BLAME! The ADVANCED TECHNOLOGIES that have mininmal harm on our environment (such as: FREE ENERGY GENERATORS), exist now! ADVANCED TECHNOLOGIES that can clean-up our environment (specialized "energy vortex" technology) and NEUTRALIZE all NUCLEAR RADIATIONS, (SCALER-ELECTROMAGNETIC TECHNOLOGIES) exists now! But why is it being suppressed? Some speculate that a huge CATACLYSM is coming soon and/or the EARTH is going to be dramatically altered with passage into 5-Dimensional HYPER-SPACE, so the GLOBAL ELITE don't care, too much, what happens to our planet! INDUSTRIALIZATION in 3rd world countries, would eventually mean that they'll be able to compete with other world powers, and also possess WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. They could take WORLD DOMINATION away from the GLOBAL ELITISTS, or cause some form of WORLD-WIDE NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST. Do you educate SLAVES to be smart enough to take the RULING STATUS away from you?! The RULING WORLD POWERS may keep enough INDUSTRIALIZATION for themselves, but may SUPPRESS INDUSTRIALIZATION for 3rd world countries, so they don't have enough high-technology to surpass the GLOBAL ELITE, or add greater RISK to our possible NUCLEAR DESTRUCTION! The GLOBAL ELITE can only stay in power with the most ADVANCED TECHNOLOGIES way above any other countries, or risk being TRUMPED! They still can make enough money from more primitive INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTS, while they keep the MOST ADVANCED "TOYS" for themselves! The KEY is to stay "many steps ahead" of your competition! In the FEUDAL SYSTEM, the MIDDLE CLASS is done away with. Only a high-tech, wealthy RULING ELITE exists, surrounded by SERFS (lower class SLAVES). The MIDDLE CLASS is eroding away. in the USA! The MIDDLE CLASS makes alot of money, but it is taken away in TAXES and DEBTS to the RULING ELITE! The MIDDLE CLASS don't ULTIMATELY control the MONEY SYSTEM, from the top! The ROTHSCHILDS only cared about MONEY CONTROL, to control the world, no other main contols are needed. It's a big ILLUMINATI "PYRAMID' SCHEME"! However, as CONSUMERS, the MIDDLE CLASS are the MOST TO BLAME for POLLUTING our planet! They do the actual DEEDS (physical actions) of polluting our planet. The ruling ELITE just direct them, and become wealthy! Many BLAME AUTOMOBLE POLLUTION as a main concern. They cry: "Let's BOYCOTT CARS!". INDUSTRIAL POLLUTION is the far greater contibutor (i.e. the factories that MAKE the cars) and the BUSINESS of WARFARE is highly destructive to our planet! Yes, WARFARE is JUST another business, in our "GUNS or BUTTER" economic equations! Who FINANCES WARS? RICH BANKERS! They finance the arms and "post-war restorations", to both sides! THE ROTHCHILDS made BILLIONS this way. BLOOD MONEY is of no concern to them! THE GLOBAL ELITE said that they would release all of the high-tech stuff and totally clean-up our planet, but thay want total SOCIAL CONTROL, first, i.e. a New World Order. HOW can a PRIMITIVE, VIOLENT species be trusted with POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS ADVANCED HIGH TECHNOLOGIES? They are still being "suppressed"! Plus, immediate release of ADVANCED TECHNOLOGIES would destroy our ECONOMY! It would take some time to happen, but TIME is running out! Will we destroy ourselves or EVOLVE to the next level? ADVANCED Star Nations (ET/ALIENS) won't allow EARTH HUMANS into space with a WAR MENTALITY! They MUST BE PEACEFUL! Have they begun an ALIEN-HUMAN HYBRIDIZATION program to "breed out" our VIOLENT, WAR-LIKE tendencies? This is called THE INDIGO HYPOTHESIS (LINK: http://home.comcast.net/~lang.craig/Indigo_Hypothesis.htm ). The WORLD-WIDE appearance of THE INDIGO CHILDREN and CRYSTALLINE CHILDREN ( i.e. THE NEW HUMANS (Homo Noeticus), with advanced INTELLIGENCE and PSYCHIC ABILITIES) may be the result of this hypothesis. It's happening NOW!!! Sometimes we may get some help from more advanced beings, but still: ON A GROUP-CONSCIOUSNESS LEVEL -WE ONLY HAVE OURSELVES TO BLAME!!! May a BRIGHT FUTURE shine upon us all!!
Hello again, cosmicdust. You have an interesting and potent mind. But all reasoning is based upon premises, and if those premises are faulty, everything that proceeds from them is faulty. Sounds good. I am a student of the Seth Material (a 'metaphysical' library of some 27 volumes): http://www.sethcenter.com http://mssa.library.yale.edu/findaids/stream.php?xmlfile=mssa.ms.1090.xml Quite true. The cause is collective. For example, it isn't one car or a thousand cars that have done and will do so much more damage, it's hundreds of millions of them. Absolutely. The Seth Material states this explicitly. The physical universe is idea construction. We create the world with our beiefs, individually and collectively. We create the apparent evil in the world by believing in evil, which has no basic existence. We buy into the Darwinian concept of a Nature based on competition with only the most violent beings and species surviving, and we create a world in which this seems to be the case. We'll have to part company on this issue. I don't believe there are any physical aliens visiting the planet. There are visitations by 'higher' beings, teachers from the 'inner' universes visiting us, and we interpret those experiences as being physical and involving technoloigical manipulations because that's how we are taught to view the universe. We are taught that only the visible universe is real. A few hundred years ago, when the Catholic-Christian paradigm ruled the world, people were having the same experiences, but instead of being abducted by aliens and taken to mother ships, they interpreted them as being angels who took them to heaven. Because that's how THEY believed reality worked. There is absolutely no physical evidence of estra-terrestrial visitations. Just hearsay and speculation and images that could have been faked or staged. If all this incredible alien technology existed, the Taliban wouldn't be kicking our butts in Afghanistan, would they? Seth says that the last time we were visited by actual aliens from another star system was duing the time of Atlantis. That's one way to interpret the symbolism. But Jesus said that the kingdom of heaven is within us....As have many other wise persons, including the Buddha. 'Heaven' meaning a good reality that's not physical at all. Seth says the same thing, basically. No need to bring any space aliens into the picture. Sure. But I don't believe any aliens have mated with humans. That's just one way of interpreting the symbolism in some ancient texts. The sort of interpretation a culture that believes that the universe perceiived by the senses is the only reallity. There is no devil and no demons except those we create ourselves. They gain a reality from our projected beliefs on other levels, but can't do any harm to those who don't believe in them. Mostly, they are just scapegoats: It's not my fault, the Devil made me do it! And direct destruction. We don't need any aliens, from inner or outer space, to tell us that. Do you know what would happen if free energy generators were available? The planet would be dead in 10 years or less. Wealth is created by turning natural resources into trade goods with energy (human, animal, technological) and free energy would make it possible for people to create wealth much more easily. Suddenly, the cost of indutrial processes of all kinds would be reduced by 90% or more. It would be a field day for the greedy, and greed is what makes this economy go. I hope to God that never happens. We are not mature enough to handle free energy. It would be the end of the world. Bullshit. The global elite are the 500 million or so Middle Class people around the world. They care about what happens to the planet, but their civilization is inherently and fundamentally terraphageous. They can't take care of the planet without radically changing how they live, and they are afraid to do that. Your 'illuminati' and such are just new devils. Scapegoats. That's already happenning in a big way. We are having to share more and more of the world's wealth. And things are getting worse and worse here. If they have nuclear weapons, they are members of the world's elite. There was no choice. When you industrialize a country to make it suitable for the multinationals to exploit, you have to educate and equip them and arm them. Once again, the global elite are the Middle Class. And you are looking at a simple strategy to justify imperialism: Where did they learn how to make nuclear weapons and get the incredibly complex and expensive machinery to do it with. From US. Because we can always use it as an excuse to pound the hell out of them if they don't do what they are told. Now this below is true: cosmicdust, your posts are too damn long. Condense them or I am just going to have to, regretably, ignore them. You could have reduced the above to a few dense paragraphs. When you ramble on like the above, it really looks like you are trying to be vague so that no one can really argue with you. Say it simply and clearly. I won't mock you. I'll just tell you when I think you are wrong or right and ask you to clairify things I don't understand. Have a good one, Littlefoot
cosmic dust, Let me correct something. It's not that you are rambling, but that you are covering too much territory. If I wasn't a long-time fan of Art Bell/Coast to Coast AM, I wouldn't be able to follow you at all. And the all of the capitals make it even harder to read, even though I understand why you use them. A quick point: Sure the Illuminati exist. And the Council on Foreign Relations and the Bildebergers, but like all leaders, they are just surfers riding the waves and those waves are us. They are making orderly a system that we create with our own actions and intents. They have no power that we don't give them, any more than the mayor of a town has powers that aren't given to him by the people in that town. A world economy, which it has been for quite a while now, must have world leaders, and because what most people in the world are interested in is money and political power, that's what the leaders manifest. How could it be otherwise? Littlefoot
Part 2: HYPER-DIMENSIONAL POWER GENERATION SCIENCES - BOYCOTTING AUTOMOBILES AND THE USA ECONOMY - I live just north of Detroit, Michigan, nicknamed: MO-TOWN (MOTOR TOWN or THE MOTOR CITY), which is an Automobile Capital of the World. The METRO-DETROIT area, and suburbs, contains many automobile manufacturing plants (many of huge size!) and many "automobile parts suppliers" (of which I usually work for). My dad worked at Chrysler Corporation for over 40 years, as an Electrical Design Engineer, working on such projects as: P-5 military plane wiring (WW2), the GAS TURBINE engine and "open-chambered" DIESEL engines. The economy of Michigan is based almost entirely on the automotive industry (directly and indirectly). It has been said that 1 out of 6 jobs in the USA is directly and indirectly based on the auto industry, so "Boycotting Cars, man." would very much DEVASTATE the USA economy!!! - FLYING (HOVERING) CARS - While I was growing up in the 1960's, the schools and media thought that in the future (A.D.2000?), AMERICA would have FLYING CARS, just like on the TV cartoon series: THE JETSONS! Where are they? DR. CAROL ROSIN is an ex-associate of Dr. Werner von Braun, when she worked as a Manager (XM-missile project) for FAIRCHILD INDUSTRIES (1974-1977). Dr. von Braun told her (as his associate) that we should have: "No weapons in space!", and that we NOW have the technology to design and build: NON-POLLUTING, FAST, HOVERING CARS, riding on a light beam! Carol Rosin gave a speech for THE DISCLOSURE PROJECT (National Press Club - Washington, D.C., w/ Dr. Steven M. Greer): "Carol Rosin - Disclosure Project (nederlands ondertiteld) - YouTube VIDEO - LINK: http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=CaTgOSHbBEI - HYPER-DIMENSIONAL POWER GENERATION SCIENCES - I first learned about "hyper-dimensional energy re-direction" from ex-ARMY Colonel THOMAS E. BEARDEN's excellant website: THE TOM BEARDEN WEBSITE: www.cheniere.org . On his website, Tom Bearden discusses the scientific fundamentals of "hyper-dimensional energy re-direction", or "ENERGY FROM THE VACUUM", plus, "hyper space-time weapons: GEO-PHYSICAL WARFARE weapons: METEOROLOGICAL (WEATHER) WARFARE weapons (Scaler Potential Interferometers, HAARP) and TECTONIC WARFARE weapons (Nikola Tesla's "Earthquake Machine"), and finally: Nikola Tesla's "death ray", Scaler Electromagnetic weapons and Time-Polarization weapons. BENJAMIN FULFORD (Canadian-origins, Ex- FORBES magazine Foreign Correspondent/ Served 20 yrs. as an International Journalist/ Lives inTokyo, JAPAN and speaks fluent JAPANESE) was chosen to represent a SECRET CHINESE SOCIETY (of 8 Million members). In the following VIDEO LINK, Mr. Fulford talks about how Japan's largest nuclear reactor (The KASHIWAZAKI KARIWA PLANT - on the NIIGATA PREFECTURE in the Sea of Japan), was hit with a "TESLA Earthquake Machine", by the ILLUMINATI, and seriously damaged! The usual giant plasma ball (from a: Scaler Potential Interferometer) was observed!!! The Japanese Government KNEW it would happpen! "Benjamin Fulford interviews David Rockefeller about illuminati, asian opposition": LINK: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3704527408635856046 Or, "Benjamin Fulford & David Rockefeller: The Japan Interview": LINK: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6224272538476202634&hl=en "Japanese nuclear reactor suffered serious damage in quake - company" -THE AGONIST NEWS LINK: http://agonist.org/20070715/strong_quake_hits_japan QUESTION: Where does all electromagnetic (EM) field energy and all EM potential energy come from in the first place? ANSWER: From the vacuum all around us. A Nobel Prize was awarded in 1957 for sustaining the extraction process. SCIENTIFIC PRINCIPLE (PHYSICS): Energy is neither CREATED, nor DESTROYED. Energy (power) is not "generated" (i.e. "created?), it is simply RE-DIRECTED from "hyper-space time" (4-D space-time, usually) into our 3-D world, or what could be called: "hyper-dimensional bleed-through". Dr. Thomas Henry Moray's term for this energy re-direction is: "valved" from "hyper-space time", thus, Dr. Moray's invention (a FREE ENERGY GENERATOR) was called THE MORAY VALVE. VACUUM TUBES are also called VALVES, for a similar reason. There are 3 types of FREE ENERGY (re-directing) devices: 1) TRUE FREE ENERGY - No moving parts. Total "over-unity". 2) NEAR FREE ENERGY - Some moving parts. Usually has to be "jump-started" (with a battery, most likely). Over 100% EFFICIENCY = over-unity. 3) OVER-UNITY - More energy OUTPUT, than INPUT energy. Over 100% energy re-direction. Generally, there are 3 ways to achieve OVER-UNITY (FREE ENERGY): 1) NEGATIVE RESISTERS. "...gathered energy from the Heaviside component of energy flow as an "open path" flow of energy - connecting together the local vicinities of any two seperated circuit components." "Gabriel Kron and the Negative Resistor" LINK: www.cheniere.org/misc/kron.htm 2) PERMANENT MAGNETS (PM's) designed in a special way to promote "hyper-space time" VALVING. a) Motionless Magnetic Generator (MEG) - Inventor: TOM BEARDEN. "MEG Scaler Energy Device Patented - Production Starts Next Year" LINK: www.rense.com/general21/free.htm b) LUTEC 1000 - "The machine, developed by Brinsmead mechanical engineer John Christie and Edge Hil electrician Lou Brits, has an international patent pending, and is expected to go on the market for $4,000-$5000." "Relying on the repulsion and attraction of internal magnets the Lutec 1000 operates continuously on a pulse-like current 24 hours a day - producing 24 kilowatts of power - once it is kick started from a battery source. The device is more than 500 per cent efficient,..." "New Magnetic-Electric Device Can Power Home From Near Free Energy Source" - By Penny Robins - The Cairns Post - Northern Queensland, OZ 3-8-1. LINK: www.rense.com/general9/unveil.htm c) COLER CONVERTER (Magnetstromapparata) - "SS Captain Hans Coler of Germany developed an overunity device in the late 1920's and 1930's that converted gravitational and magnetic energy into electromagnetic energy in the form of electric current." "COLER CONVERTER - Haunebu Flying Saucer with Coler generator on board" LINK: http://users.rcn.com/zap.dnai/coler.htm 3) CRYSTALS (Specific crystals, in a specific array.) a) GERMANIUM CRYSTALS, triboluminescent ZINC and a RADIOACTIVE FISSILE) material are combined to form the "free energy detector tube". "THE MORAY RADIANT ENERGY DEVICE" LINK: www.cheniere.org/books/excalibur/moray.htm B) ATLANTEAN POWER CRYSTAL - Edgar Cayce (1877 - 1945), America's Sleeping Prophet, called them: the Tuoai Stone, and the Fire Stone. Used as a two way antenna to receive the incoming rays of cosmic energy and to broadcast the energy to the various areas of Atlantis. THE ATLANTEAN POWER CRYSTAL TM LINK: www.lifetechnology.org/atlanteanpower.htm Dr. Ray Brown's CRYSTAL OF ATLANTIS, found in 1970 while scuba-diving in the Bahamas, 20-miles from a submarine drop-off called THE TONGUE OF THE OCEAN. Actual photos! "Atlantis - Crystals and Pyramids" LINK: www.crystalinks.com/crystalpyr.html, and LINK: www.crystalinks.com/atlanteancrystals.html PLASMA TORCH-FUSION is also an excellant method to generate power, but it may not be classified as an OVER-UNITY device. Some teenager (in Rochester Hills, MI - just northwest of me) built some kind of FUSION-REACTOR in his basement, as this news story was mentioned on THE TONITE SHOW, w/ JAY LENO (in his opening monologue)! There is a long history of mankind's use of FREE ENERGY (overunity) devices, but they're recently being "suppressed" by who? Corporations, Secret Governments, Intelligence Agenicies, and International Factions are "SUSPECT"! For a long list of FREE ENERGY GENERATION DEVICES and their apparent "suppression", consult the following, excellant article, plus "YouTube VIDEO: "History of 'New Energy' Suppression Cases", By Gary Vesperman (garyvesperman@yahoo.com), 6-19-6 LINK: www.rense.com/general72/oinvent.htm ""YouTube" VIDEO: "Free Energy - A Reality Not a Conspiracy" (AUSTRALIAN) LINK: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Dfj1O45qZ5U&NR=1 In some future post, in this thread, I'll point out some of the most interesting cases from the above article. Feel free to "surf" the web (and www.rense.com) for: FREE ENERGY and OVERUNITY, plus the many books on the subject. Explore on your own!!! Like any new REVOLUTIONARY TECHNOLOGY, it is feared by man, as to destroy our economy! But we accept it, adapt to it, move on and EVOLVE!!! The UNIVERSE must CHANGE ,and it must CREATE!!! Trip THE ATLANTEAN CRYSTAL LIGHT fantastic . . .
Hi again, cosmicdust. I have said that several times on this very thread, But the car lifestyle is incredibly environmentally destructive. The concentration of wealth requred necessitates wars (directly and by proxy) of conquest and massive subsidies that ultimately fall on the backs of the world's poor. So, obviously cars have to go. And if the economy can't exist without them, the economy has to go. We don't have to live like this. We don't have to use high-speed armored wheelchairs and toil in factories and mines and smelters and at other jobs to pay for the cursed things. We don't have to make war to gain or keep control of cheap labor and resources in other countries and trash the planet for them. While it would be a great idea to get mass transportation off the ground, flying cars are the worst idea I've ever heard of. That's all we need, a bunch of sociopathic yuppy assholes speeding through the skies while they yap on their cellphones. There _are_ flying cars right now. Care to guess how many gallons per mile they get? And how much they cost? They are just effing AIRPLANES. I've deleted all the rubbish about magical technologies that will give us free energy. Sure it's possible. But we aren't mature enough to handle it. Right now, we would use that energy to create riches, which would further trash the planet. And to make war to gain control of the resources needed to create riches. And to control of the populations needed to buy the stuff that would need to be sold to create these riches. You are promoting one of the most serious impediments to real progress that faces us: The blind worship of technology. The idea that technology can solve all of our problems is corporate propaganda. Because technology means making money by selling stuff and keeping us dependent upon their technocrats and factories. Technology, which is only sophisticated toolmaking, is wonderful. As long is it isn't abused and overused and misused. Most of our problems right now are caused by the abuse of technology. More of it is only going to make things WORSE. We need to use the lowest order of technology that will get any specific job done. For example: Local transportation. WALKING. Growing food: HANDTOOLS and so on. We need electricity for almost nothing: Mostly electronic communications. You can communicate all the way around the world using the High Frequency Bands (3-30Mhz) and radio telegraphy, using less than 5 watts of power and simple bipolar junction transistors. The radios can be made by cub scouts and fit in the palm of your hand. Those transistors are easier to make than the vacuum tubes that people used to make in their basements around the turn of the 20th century. Littlefoot
Global Warming was Al Gore's excuse to make a movie. Evidently, the green house emissions curve lags the global warming curve, so cause and effect hasn't been established. A friend of mine met Al Gore in person, and she got the creeps. I read something recently to the effect that, while both Bush and Gore live in large houses, Bush's house is extremely environmentally friendly and energy efficient, with a geo-thermal climate control system, and it uses a fraction of the energy consumed by the average American home. Contrast that to Gore's energy hog mansion, which consumes many times the energy of most American homes. Go figure. The world will be depleated of it's oil in, what, twenty or thirty years, at which point we'll have no choice. The bright side of it is that at that point it won't matter how rich you are, 'cause money will be worthless, so it'll level the playing field. Public transportation is not the definitive answer because it's not sustainable, but if it's a lesser evil than what we have now, it could postpone the inevitable. Whatdya mean technology can't solve all our problems? 'Ever see what happens to a kid when you give 'em a nintendo, or an ipod? It keeps 'em quiet for a while and out of your hair, it's a beautiful thing. Mellow Yellow unproud member of oil whore's anonymous
That's ridiculous. No typical 'modern' house is anything close to being environmentally friendly. I get your point, but there is nothing environmentally friendly about an industrial house. Except for the people who have learned how to live in an Earth-friendly manner. They will be out of _that_ game, completely. We need mass transit for long distances, but not industrially produced. It can be quite Earth-friendly done correctly. Like airships and sailboats. But they'd be just as happy with a pile of wooden blocks or some dirt and a spoon (ad infinitum). If it weren't for the pressure from the adults (passed on by their kids, too) to consume complex things. including indoctrinationg them with the false idea that hi-tech toys are superior. That human evolution and technological advancement are one and the same. I may have a lower level membership than you, but I am not out of it. Littlefoot
Littlefoot, "May his DIVINE SHADOW be merciful upon your soul!" and "I worship his DIVINE SHADOW!" - LEXX (SciFi TV SERIES) -A SCI-FI VIEW OF THE GLOBAL ELITE RULERS - Some internet sources claim that an "ASTRAL, SHADOWY figure" is the head of a SECRET ruling body (ILLUMINATI?), which have meetings underground, below the UNITED NATIONS building (one source: Dr.Stefan Grossman)! In LEXX, his DIVINE SHADOW ruled THE CLUSTER (of a 120 planet EMPIRE), and created the most powerful destructive force in the two universes - the LEXX (insect - DRAGONFLY-like) battle STARSHIP. The LEXX could destroy any planet in the TWO UNIVERSES (the LIGHT AND DARK ZONES)!!! Why is it that the DARK SIDE rules in the LIGHT UNIVERSE, while the LIGHT SIDE rules in the DARK UNIVERSE? - a concept in the LEXX SciFi TV SERIES. Both opposing universes exist in the same space! A FRACTAL CORE connects these two opposing (YIN and YANG) universes together, providing a DOORWAY between them (which "converts" one's matter and energies to match the universe of entry)! Is this just science FICTION, or science FACT? - ARE YOU WORRIED (implying FEAR) ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING? - Does a DARK SIDE rule Earth, with fear? Wars! Terrorists everywhere! Asteroids? Global warming (the main topic of this thread)! Pollution! Phoney ALIEN/UFO invasions (NASA's PROJECT BLUEBEAM)! Is FEAR our PRIME MOTIVATIONAL force? We FEAR, we get ANGRY, we ACT! The old FLIGHT or FIGHT rule of SURVIVAL! KICK ASS, or RUN LIKE HELL!!! DELORES CANNON (author of: THE CUSTODIANS "Beyond Abduction" and THE CONVOLUTED UNIVERSE Book One), uses RETROGRESSIVE HYPNOSIS to unlock the universes' hidden secrets! It has alot of debatable information (that's for sure), but when she gets information about other's past lives (NO ALIEN/ET stuff), they all seem to view a world always ruled by FEAR! She blames HUMAN NATURE (DNA?) for its own woes, and NOT aliens (although she talks about them ALOT)! In "ACTION VIEW" PHYSICS (next higher-level above QUANTUM PHYSICS) ALIEN/ANGEL/GOD communications are just ARCHETYPE projections from our hyper-dimensional self, so we are just talking to ourselves - TO LEARN! "The process of "tuning" to higher consciousness is one of greater-self-reflection." "Self exists through the wave interaction with its space-time mirrored image in the same way that you interact with your own mirrored image. By self-reflection we are able to change ourselves. By observing ourselves in others we are able to change each other. All there is is the one-verse, the universe looking at itself in itself." QUANTUM PHYSICS: "The way that it works in quantum physics , which underlies all of the physical world, is that the quantum wave flows between two events just like a river leaving a source and flowing to a sink. But then it "turns around" in space-time and flows back from the sink to the source. The resulting reinforcement between the quantum wave and its space-time reflected image produces the experiences we call reality. In the language of quantum physics, we say that the wave is multiplied by its "complex-conjugated self" to produce the-probabilities of the real world. This double-flow process occurs in every physical phenomenon." - SPACE-TIME AND BEYOND, By Bob Toben and Fred Wolf, BANTAM BOOKS, NY, COPYRIGHT 1975, 1982, By Bob Toben, Pg. 129. PHASE-CONJUNCT: Two identical waves, flowing in opposite directions, but overlapping each other. Time flows equally well in BOTH directions - FOWARD and BACKWARD! The only way a LONELY, UNIVERSAL BEING - who occupies all of INFINITE SPACE, LIVING in all of ETERNAL TIME and traveling at INFINITE VELOCITY, can seek COMPANIONSHIP, is to CREATE a universe by fragmenting itself into progressively smaller pieces - lasting many different time intervals, and operating at many slower speeds (frequencies). A HOLOGRAM needs a reference beam and interfering waves to produce an image. The universe reflects back upon itself to create itself. In my teenaged years, I came up with the theory that the universe is like a giant sea of "informational waves" (like a HOLOGRAM), and we are like TV RECEIVERS. Our "minds" receive the universe's "informational waves" (like a TV antenna), then process (using FOURIER-type TRANSFORMS/converting FREQUENCIES into FORM) the signals into an image of reality! We are like TV sets, looking at TV sets, but our REALITY is from the universe's HOLOGRAPHIC information! Just one of my old THEORIES! "You have NOTHING to fear, but FEAR itself!" - Franklin D. Roosevelt -Self-reflection? - CURRENT AUTOMOBILES ARE NOT ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY - Automobile manufacturing plants have huge vats of TOXIC chemicals and barrels and drums of INDUSTRIAL TOXIC WASTE, made FRESH daily! It all has to go somewhere, doesn't it? How about we starship it right into our SUN, so it just VAPORIZES, completely, using our SUN like a gigantic (solar) INCINERATOR!!! Just a thought!? Automobiles require many TOXIC chemicals to function properly, such as: GASOLINE. OIL, transmission fluid, brake fluid, power steering fluid, coolant (ethylene glycol), windshield wiper fluid (VERY TOXIC - METHANOL), and so on. These fluids get accidently spilled, and seals can leak on older cars, causing toxic fluids to go on the driveway and/or roads, in which when it rains, it washes these toxic fluids into the soil and CONTAMINATES it! This IS NOT very ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY!!! Automobile manufacturing plants and automobiles, both require PETROLEUM PRODUCTS to function, but raw petroleum products (mostly CRUDE OIL) is an EXHAUSTABLE RESOURCE, meaning it is of LIMITED supply on our planet Earth, and as its supplies dwindle down, WARS must be fought to procure it. The International Bankers (especially the ROTHCHILDS (BAUERS)) finance BOTH SIDES of these WARS. The MIDDLE CLASS and POOR usually fight these wars, but they are the ones that CONSUME the most of the Earth's natural resources and pollute the Earth! "You shall REAP, what you SOW!" - THE BIBLE (Self-relection, again?) If you have a FLYING CAR design with an internal combustion engine, operating from the "potential energy" of liquid fuels, with an inefficient fuel-vaporization fuel delivery system, resulting in POOR FUEL ECONOMY and INCOMPLETE COMBUSTION (resulting in POLLUTION), plus a HUMAN MANUAL guidance system, of course, that doesn't sound like a good idea! However, Dr. Werner von Braun (and me) were describing a way more advanced FLYING CAR deisgn, using CURRENTLY available technology, that the GENERAL PUBLIC doesn't seem to know about! Dr. Werner von Braun described a HOVERING CAR, moving FAST upon a BEAM of LIGHT (as told by Dr. Carol Rosin, in her DISCLOSURE PROJECT speech). My design would use an ANTI-GRAVITY WAVE generator (for LIFT and PROPULSION - "field effects"), a FREE ENERGY generator (using no fuels, and no moving parts), plus use an "artificial intelligence" guidance system (like RUSSIA uses in their GRANIT hyper-sonic missles), but also like the guidance system in the LEXX (LEXX SciFI TV SERIES) and MOYA (FARSCAPE SciFi TV SERIES) STARSHIPS, which is just "VOICE (THOUGHT) CONTROLLLED". It just goes where it is told to go, following pre-programmed NAVIGATIONAL programs (so you could even "pass-out" from a medical condition, like epilipsy or "sugar COMA", drive DRUNK or DRUGGED-UP, or even DIE and still reach your destination)! This design would be good! We have the TECH! BEN RICH was hired by LOCKHEED. In DEC 1954, he was sent to the: TOP SECRET "Skunk Works" section of LOCKHEED and was later program manager for the SR-71 Blackbird propulsion system, plus championed early protoypes of the F-117 stealth fighter. BEN RICH stated during a 1993, Alumni Speech at UCLA: "We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an Act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity...Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do." "Ben Rich - 'We Can Travel Among The Stars'" - Filer's Files, www.ufocenter.com, 11-21-7 LINK: www.rense.com/general79/among.htm NEW TECHNOLOGIES (radical innovations) have almost always been FEARED by humans (fear of the unknown), because they involve GREAT CHANGES for everyone! The UNIVERSE must CHANGE (QUANTUM PHYSICS) and CREATE (Bryan Williams - SARGEL18)! Humans prefer stability and comfort. When HENRY FORD tried to promote and manufacture the automobile, he met with the usual resistance by "the status quo". "Model T Magnetic Engine - 04/06/97" LINK: www.keelynet.com/energy/ford.htm In many SCIENCE FICTION movie concepts, you have the advanced technologies, but you also have advanced spiritual beings (like "Q" from the later STAR TREK TV SERIES) who can do the same things, and more, WITHOUT the technology. At the 2007 MICHIGAN RENAISSANCE FESTIVAL (Groveland, Michigan - east of HOLLY, MI/US-23), I met a woman who claimed to be a real WITCH, who casted an "invisibility spell" on her car and caused an accident! She was really serious! I told her that the NSA had a a device in a small suitcase that could do the same thing, but with technology! I guess technology and the spirit can "mirror" each other in POWERS! We HUMANS do have TWO brain HEMISPHERES - one concerning tech/hardware and the other concerning intuition/esp/spirit and the PINEAL GLAND, to connect us to "hyper-space time". With ADVANCED SPIRITUAL POWERS, you don't need the TECHNICAL HARDWARE stuff! In the movie: 2001: A Space Odyssey (STANLEY KUBRICK), I like the scene where the ape throughs his stick (a primitive TOOL) up into the air, and it turns into a SPACESHIP (a futuristic TOOL)! COOL symbolism! At the end of the movie, DAVE is transformed into a STAR-CHILD! Is this coming true NOW! MAYAN, HOPI and BIBLICAL prophecies predict such a SPIRITUAL EVOLUTION up-grade for MANKIND (like in 2001: A Space Odyssey), around DECEMBER 21, A.D. 2012 (The END of the MAYAN CALENDAR and 3-DIMENSIONAL EARTH)! The appearance of THE INDIGO and CRYSTALLINE CHILDREN all over the world is happening NOW! Their main purpose is to guide MANKIND into a 5-Dimensional existance! SPIRITUAL EVOLUTION, with NO NEED for material technologies! BENJAMIN FULFORD (an ex-FORBES magazine, International Journalist) thinks such a SPIRITUAL EVOLUTIONARY LEAP is also on THE EVENT HORIZON!!! In the 1950's, there was supposedly 30% FIRST WAVE INDIGO's born, after 1994 - 95% of children are INDIGOS. I fit the description of the FIRST WAVE INDIGO - ADULTS, so my brain is wired-different, I think holographically and hyper-dimensionally in "information packets" (i.e. long posts) and "capitalization" to "speed read". I have many prophetic dreams, and some examples of psychokinesis. I still enjoy being in nature, mountain-biking, hiking, wave-running and snow-mobiling! I just want to ENJOY LIFE - both spiritually and physiaclly. It's a YIN/YANG DANCE of BALANCES! Peace out and just ENJOY LIFE!!! Don't WORRY, BE HAPPY!
cosmicdust wrote: "In the 1950's, there was supposedly 30% FIRST WAVE INDIGO's born, after 1994 - 95% of children are INDIGOS. I fit the description of the FIRST WAVE INDIGO - ADULTS, so my brain is wired-different..." "Indigo Children" are a myth created by psuedo-progressive yuppies-in-denial in order to justify having children that they know they shouldn't be bringing into a grossly overpopulated world. Their "Indigo Children" are supposedly going to "Save the World" because of their special abilities, so it's okay for _them_ to breed. We are still waiting.... I don't think your brain is wired different. I think you were raised by people who claimed to be enlightened progressives but didn't live any different than anyone else. Whose schemes to save the world have amounted to a pile of ashes because they were all about someone else changing, not them. So they filled your head with bullshit about how technology was going to save the world and how nothing was their fault but was because of the manipulations of Evil Invisible Tyrants. You experienced reality and your parents told you that it was something other than you perceived it to be. So you are understandably confused. Littlefoot
Cosmic dust, I really enjoy your posts! A lot of thought and research... But the one thought that resonated the most was that the truely wise man (woman) realizes how little he/she really knows. Absorbing as much information as possible and reserving final judgments, being able to relate to ALL sides of an issue and not necessarily firmly take sides is the first step to realizing how little we know for sure. Myself, I sometimes have a difficult time TAKING a "side" due to this... And so things must end up boiling down to the reality of "right and wrong", which MOST people think is the same thing as their OPINION of what is right and wrong, but it is far from it. We are humans and as humans we have a mind that can rationalize, which is the thing that makes us different from our animal brothers. We were "gifted" with more mental capacity than any other mammalian race that we know of for sure on this planet. However that came to be, it would follow that altho we are still very connected to our ancestral INSTINCTS (dislike of change, self preservation) we also have MORE. Certainly as individuals we could decide to forgo all "technology", and part of our makeup causes us to wish it would all go away and that we could go back to a "simpler" and cleaner existence, our extra mentality simply won't allow that. We HAVE the abilities required to figure out the more complex parts of the puzzle. Discounting all technology would be a huge step backwards in what would seem to be our destiny as humans. Even digging a hole using a stick instead of your fingers is a form of "technology". But there are SO MANY things "out there" that we know little to nothing about yet, that it would be stupid to NOT search for the RIGHT technologies to use for our GOOD. If you think about even just the SIMPLE things that are going on right around you at this moment, that are PROVED to exist, like sound waves, light waves, radio and television waves, electricity, magnetism, then you must realize that there are many more that we HAVEN'T even begun to explore... Who is to say that technology is WRONG? We have the minds we do for a reason. Wouldn't it make more sense to explore new technologies with open minds and utilize those that actually lead to RIGHT results as opposed to WRONG ones?
We can't go back. But we can have a much simpler and cleaner existence. Without eliminating technology. Technology is not the problem. It's abuse and over-use is. The rational course is to use the lowest order of technology that will get any specific and necesary job done. Because the higher the order of technology, the more destruction to the environment and the more person-hours of work is involved. What does that mean? Sure would. You are ignoring the fact that all higher-order technologies have a severe downside and must be used sparingly. This isn't surprising. Very few Americans know anything about what goes on "behind the scenes" to make the technologies they use a reality. If we were given real educations, then people would know about this downside and that we are blowing it. You are also, seemingly, buying into the myth that technology holds the answers to all of our problems. This is pure Corporate propaganda. They want us to believe that because technology means mining and refining and manufacturing and trasportation and goods that can be sold. It makes money and keeps most of it in the hands of those who own the above enterprises. Any examination of the history of technology, of the predictions made about the wonderful world throwing all of our efforts into new technologies would create males ot quite apparent that the myth is just that. Technology isn't wrong. It's abuse is. It's overuse is. We sure do. And that reason is not just to make fancier and fancier tools. We've had most of the technologies we need to create an Earthly paradise for hundreds of years. Many of them have been around for thousands: Making good tool steel, glass, cloth, paper, ink, hot water, soap, artificial light..... And one of the things that keeps us from creating an Earthly paradise is the myth that technology holds the answers to all of our problems. That someone is going to make a magic machine that will save us from ourselves. What we need to do to preserve what's left of the planet is to leave it the hell alone. More technology will simply result in more environmental degradation. We need less technology, not more. Yes, new technologies need to be explored. But on a very small scale until it is proven that their widespread adoption will truly benefit the planet and the human race. Not just a minority of priveleged people at the expense of the planet and other people. Which is the case with most higher-order technologies now. It has to be non-commercial. Our minds are meant for much more than inventing sophisticated tools. Equating human evolution with technological develepment is a grave mistake. Liittlefoot
Earthmother wrote: "Wouldn't it make more sense to explore new technologies with open minds...?" Yes. As long as that open mind was a truly educated one that understood what's involved in making technology happen and its modern history. Here's some history straight from the horse's mouth. I was there and I saw it being made: When I was in grade school in the late 50's and early 60's, we were taught that the Wonders of Applied Science (which is what we called technology then) were going to solve all of the human race's problems. We were told, in textbooks and lectures and black and white films featuring Real Scientists, that the following were going to be a reality by the year 2000: 1. Scientific Medicine would have found cures for every disease. 2. Robots would be doing all the work and we would be living lives of luxury pursuing the Arts and Sciences. 3. We would all have flying cars. 4. We would have mining operations on the asteroids, colonies on the moon and mars, and in vast orbiting space stations. All we had to do is go on living as we were and trust those wonderful Scientists and give them billions of dollars to fund their research. And they really believed it. So did almost everyone. Oops! Now, they are telling us that Nanotechnology, Genetic Engineering, Artificial Intelligence, and Alternative Energy are going to solve all of the world's problems. All we have to do is go on living like we are and trust those wonderful Scientists and give them trillions of dollars and a few more decades to work the bugs out. And they really believe it. Sorry. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Littlefoot
Quote: We HAVE the abilities required to figure out the more complex parts of the puzzle. "What does that mean?" The puzzle of how to have so many people on one planet and be able to find the correct ways to live in harmony with it. Ah, I'm NOT preaching that technology can save the planet!!! Technology is what's killing it! I'm simply saying that we HAVE technology, an over abundance of it, and we always will because we are humans with brains and humans are inventors of things to make their lives easier. So all we can really hope for without running away to a desert island to live in the wild with nothing is that peoples minds work in the RIGHT directions to create GOOD technologies that we can live with in harmony with the earth. Please stop nit picking my posts, littlefoot, and stop looking for things to disagree about. We are not really so different in our ideologies.
Mellow Yellow, AL GORE appears to be a very cool, "hip" kind of guy, when he's in front of the camera. He is also (or was) a DEADHEAD (i.e. a dedicated fan of the rock band: THE GRATEFUL DEAD). However, many famous people may be almost the opposite of how they appear "in the spotlight". Internet rumors have some indications that Al Gore may have blood-ties to the ILLUMUNATI and/or is involved into the OCCULT and EXTRATERRESTRIALS! Here is one example (which I cannot confirm as being TRUE, but could be): "Al Gore has been linked allegedly to the Esalen offshoot which is in contact with an extraterrestrial or extradimensional entity or group known as THE NINE." SOURCE: "Illuminati Networks Exposed" "Al Gore's links to 666 Numerology Zionist firm Exposed" (Scoreboard Canada contributor Nov, 24, 2006) LINK: www.scoreboard-canada.com/articles-gore666.htm Since GLOBAL WARMING is just a RED (or GREEN)-HERRING, i.e. a TACTICAL-DIVERSION from something else (in which you can SPECULATE as to what it is acting as a DIVERSION for), many have re-labled Al Gore's new GLOBAL WARMING movie: "AN INCONVENIENT LIE." Mellow Yellow, now you know why your friend got the "creeps", when she met Al Gore in person! Al Gore has an aura of the OCCULT and EXTRATERRESTRIALS about him! I've read alot of material about the ET/ED group: THE NINE (on the internet), but I'm not involved with them, in any way. Maybe Al Gore is? THE NINE material is interesting, but it's hard to "scrape the BS off of the truth" (Quote from: LENNY BLOOM, TORONTO, CANADA, (Investigational Journalist) - LINK: www.cloakanddagger.de ). I wouldn't worry about the "running out of OIL" issue, too much! It is true that OIL is an EXHUSTABLE (limited supply) NATURAL RESOURCE, but we have many replacements in the works NOW, both lo-tech natural products - bio-fuels, wind, solar), and much more ADVANCED high-tech items, like FREE ENERGY generators and motors. The OIL COMPANIES are just "milking" as much PROFIT as they can, until the supplies run too low, then switch to the replacements, in which they'll plan to make some more money, somehow! I'd worry more about our VARIABLE STAR - THE SUN more, as it could go into one of its "expansion cycles" and emit way too much POWERFUL RADIATION, in which we would have to live "underground" for awhile! I've had 2 possibly PROPHETIC dreams of the SUN burning TOO BRIGHTLY, and people having to stay in THICK buildings, or live underground. Of course, we could also have SOLAR SHUTDOWN, which wouldn't be good! If the CORE of our planet Earth heated up too much, that would be a big concern, as well! Big, nasty rocks and boulders could slam into EARTH from outer space (CHICKEN LITTLE -"The sky is falling!"), or a large "heavenly body" could WHIZ by us and cause POLE-SHIFTS and/of shear our atmosphere OFF of our planet Earth (Planet X, NIBIRU, WORMWOOD?)! Let us not forget all of the environmental damage done to our planet, with chemical, nuclear and biological TOXIC WASTES! That's a big item, here! "earthmother", I love your posts as well! They are a little more "down to Earth" than most of my posts, but sometimes you soar the ASTRAL PLANES, as well! Astrologically, I'm a CAPRICORN, which is an EARTH sign. I love being in NATURE, especially the DEEP WOODS. I love to go mountain-biking, hiking, wave-running, snow-mobiling, and so forth. However, CAPRICORNS are usually attracted to the HIDDEN MYSTERIES of life, and just like an "old MOUNTAIN GOAT", we like to live in the lofty-heights! Even although I collect a huge volume of DATA and have RESERVE (DELAYED) JUDGEMENT, I still have definite beliefs, "sides" and opinions, because I have to, to get (move) through life. I can't be totally NEBULOUS, or like interstellar cosmic dust. Sometimes you have to shine like a STAR! I can "modify" my definite beliefs, "sides" and opinions, in the future. It's always a viable option! It's truley AMAZING, how our world (based on many, many LIES) can function as well as it does! My mother loved going to VIRGINA, alot, especially to VIRGINA BEACH (where our family would go to, for a spring-time vacation and stay a week on a motel on the beach). She was a member of the Association for Research and Enlightenment (A.R.E.), which is based upon America's Sleeping Prophet - EDGAR CAYCE, and is located just north of VIRGINIA BEACH, on the oceanside. JOHN LENNON was also a member of the A.R.E. and supposedly bought some property somewhere near Virginia Beach! In the 70's, our family thought about moving to Virginia Beach. My sister lived in NORFOLK, VIRGINIA, for a few years (with her family), but eventually moved back to Michigan. WEST VIRGINNY, was a beautiful state as well! Love them HAMS!!! Littlefoot, I don't know about how you're using your shovel, but I'm using mine to shovel the snow in my driveway. We (in Michigan) just got dumped on, with a load of snow! Peace, love and understanding . . .
cosmicdust said to me: "I don't know about how you're using your shovel, but I'm using mine to shovel the snow in my driveway. We (in Michigan) just got dumped on, with a load of snow!" Shovel's are useful for many things. Cleaning up the solid waste of large mammals is one of them. Al Gore is a typical member of the global psuedo-environmental movement. Their real motto is: 'I want to save what's left of the planet after me and all of my enlightened and superior compatriots get our very big pieces of it.' Littlefoot
actually some forms of public transportation CAN be sustainable. the just have to be propelled by means that don't involve burning anything to propell them and be of tecnologies that don't require paving over the planet. relocalized and reindiginized lifestyles with human population drasticly reduced through drastic reduction in human birth rate, and really ways of life that don't require having to travell so far so often are of course part of it also. and i think if humanity survives we will see all of these things. certainly the tecnologies, as i can't emphasise enough, exist, have existed, arn't pie in the sky, nor require any, and are long since will proven. and the only obstical to transitioning to them is the political usurpation by major economic interests. eventually, somehow, that last will eventually collapse. running out of economicly extractable and proccessable oil will probably help in that happening. those who keep denying global climate chainge and it's environmental consiquences are still, illogicly, emotionally attatched to the idea that somehow, the concentration of wealth by centralization and centralized control and making everything have to begin and end with little green pieces of paper is somehow going to enormously bennifit themselves personally, whatever it might otherwise mean for anyone else. this is just simply not living in the real world all of us have to and all of our lives depend upon doing. i know it's easy to get emotionally attatched to familiar conveniences, but really, most of them, those that really do bring any sort of real gratification, do NOT have to be entirely given up, to abondon the insanity of the totally unneccessary use of combustion for anything other then home heating and cooking. i mean are these oil and automotive industry worshippers so ignorant that they have never heard of batteries, flywheels, compressed air, solar cells, mechanical escarpments as means of storing energy, and so on? presumably many, if not most, have been born in countries and recently enough, to be unfamiliar with life based arround primarily guideway based means of transportation. have never seen or imagined narrow gauge as an integral part of everyday life. have probably never even imagined anything other then gas powered cars. their failure of imagination does not negate the existence of such things. nor of the environmental realities their ignorance and short sightedness is responsible for. or rather pretend this, wishing to exploit the rest of us, again expecting, mistakenly to get something themselves out of doing so. for everyone who expects to, 95% of them can damd well expect to be thoroughly disappointed even if the finite limits of nature's cycles of renewal did not exist and mean that at some point their 'bussiness as usual' won't be. =^^= .../\...
Agreed, yet ironically the infrastructure that supports our economy depends on the current inefficient system. Have you heard of inventors who have come up with engines that get several times the mileage of average engines, but somehow they never become a product? They get shut down 'cause it would cripple our economy. I suppose the hybrid vehicle is now a reality because the economists determined that the economic machinery wouldn't shut down as a result. Now we've got the manufacture of batteries to keep the wheels spinning. And ironically, it's the minority of the population with the wealth to afford these vehicles who can benefit from their efficiency (and their "efficiency" is debateable). Poor people still need to drive gas guzzling, polluting junkers. In my younger days, I bought into the idea that technology was the answer to life's problems, to the extent that I went to college for several years and got a graduate degree, in hopes that I might make a difference. Man was I naive. Imagine my disillusionment when I got out into the "real" world and realized it wasn't nearly that simple. It takes an astronomical amount of money to develop an idea into a feasible product. Then there's marketing. Most of the stuff I've designed has never gone anywhere, except some file in some back room somewhere. Some of it has, but what has is pretty trivial, and, as far I'm concerned, pretty useless, though evidently someone thinks it has value. What I'm getting at is that what seems to make the most sense, and what is economically feasible are two different things. In this country, economic feasibility trumps common sense, that's the nature of capitalism. We like to bitch about it, but it's the nature of the beast, which we created, and we feed. It in turn feeds on us.