boners dead...

No, but money buys freedom. And you can't be truly happy if you're not free.

 

I wince a little every time I see someone calling him Boner. He spent most of his life trying to get people to forget he was Boner, as if trying to make people forget he was Chekov's son wasn't enough. I don't agree with what he did, in fact, I find it a tad cliche, but I wouldn't have wanted to deal with that day in and day out while I'm trying to build a serious career for myself...
Saw the press conference on his death. His father broke my heart. He was a so brave. I wanted to hug him (long-time fan, here).

 

Marie Osmond's son:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100228/ap_on_en_mu/us_marie_osmond_s_son

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My friend's brother committed suicide 3 days before Christmas this past year. It happens to a lot of people, but it doesn't make the news if your parents aren't famous...

 

too many to report, i guess. sorry for your friend.

 

Holy shit, it's really going around, ain't it??
I think we all need to take a deep breath and watch some cartoons... Life is NOT this heavy...

 

Mental illness isn't cured by cartoons, and it is ignorant to think people will just stop having depression and say, "OMG! You're right, life really ISN'T this heavy!"

Depression very little to do with how "heavy" your life is. It is a chemical imbalance. Being sad for a valid reason is not depression.

Being the son of famous people doesn't make anyone immune to it, either. These guys are not unique.

 

if marie spent more time with her son and less time dancing with the stars and making loss fat commercials..

 

While Walter Koenig is best known for his role as Pavel Chekov on Star Trek, he was even better as PSI-CORPS
cop Bester on Babylon-5

Too bad about his son


Hotwater

 

I don't think Firefly was really suggesting that depression can be cured by watching cartoons. I think she was just saying that we, as a world, need to chill out. It is a fact that the root cause for suicide can also be stress, not just mental illness. which can in fact be greatly alleviated when one does something that relaxes them. For some that could cartoons. It is for me.

 

Jesus Christ, why do I even try anymore...
Fine, this is srs bsns and I won't trash talk your illness anymore...

OR I've had it and defeated the bastard and I won't let it get me again, so making light of it is my way of telling it I'm not afraid of it anymore. (Didn't I just go through this in another thread?) No one should be forced to bow to the almighty depression gods in the name of being politically correct. I'm not criticizing anyone. Get off your high horse. You're not special because you have an inside on the disease.

When did people get so sensitive around here? Isn't callousness the name of the game in RT?

 

^THIS

It upsets me when people start offing themselves left and right. I think it's fucked up. Never am I going to lay back and say "oh well, they were sick." FUCK that. Shit needs to be done. People need to be saved. And part of that is stepping up and realizing you don't need to let it control you anymore, whether that is self-realized or someone helps you to that point. I know it's not "easy" but for fuck's sake, it's possible!

 

well, callousness works if you can handle getting your ass chewed. happens to me all the time.

daisy's friend's kid killed himself. sensitivity just kinda happens. i get what you're saying about chilling out and such, and as someone who's had to deal with depression, thus it being my illness, chilling out doesn't work when you're ill. chilling out works when your brain is functioning properly.

 

Fine, because I'm a doctor, and everyone should take MY advice for their mental state... It was not a SERIOUS suggestion. Anyone with half a brain should have seen that. It was my personal reaction to news of two public suicides in a matter of a few days. Deal with it.
Christ in a basket... *shakes head*

 

good gawd. fine. be pissed someone got pissed. it's the natural order of things.

 

Holy shit settle down, I just said you were ignorant, because it is my opinion that you don't know what you are talking about.

And as KC said, chilling out only works if you have a normally functioning brain.

Why does it bother you if people are "offing themselves left an right"? It only bothers me if I know them. Loads of people die every day.

 

I am ignorant because I made a non-serious suggestion out of my feelings toward suicides in the news? Need I repeat the fact that I do not endorse cartoon watching as a means of therapy? I don't know why you keep referring back to it like I was. It was just a comment. I've not made it my personal mission to educate the world on the ins and outs of depression and suicide, so I don't feel I need to fear someone reading my post and think that's how it is... My intention was not to spread misinformation. It was just my reaction. I don't feel I need to be lectured like this.
And why does it upset me? I don't know because I feel it's sad, a shame, somewhat frightening to ponder? Why did you feel it necessary to react to me the way you did? I'm not crying my eyes out and cutting myself, though I will admit I teared up during Koenig's press conference.

 

if depression is a chemical imbalance.. can you show me some imaging to support this?

it's my opinion that the chemical composition of the brain is a dynamic and subjective thing, ebb and flow is natural. in other words there is no precise "balance"

depression is a reaction to emotions, energy levels, and environmental factors - all of which can be manipulated to some degree. proper diet, vitamin intake, exercise, cognitive behavioral therapy, and simply determination can overcome it. the thing is, it takes a strong conscious effort to make these types of changes when you are already in the hole. and most people find it easier to fall into behaviors which perpetuate this. and so they keep digging.

 

also, the right combination of psychoactive chemicals. and no, I don't endorse taking antidepressants. not one bit.

 

Depression is a a combination of two things

1. Reaction to circumstance
2. Emotional strength