Black Lives Do Count

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  1. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Your source deliberately excludes Asians from the wealth earnings statistic.

    Because they earn more than whites. Gee, I wonder why they never talk about "Asian privilege" because it breaks the left's divisive anti-white racism narrative. That's why.
     
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  2. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Remember folks. Facts don't care about your feelings.
     
  3. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    You're right, but a statistical link that was posted earlier by someone else shows that there are way fewer wealthy Asians than you're suggesting. I'll see if I can find it in the thread and post it.

    Edit: I did a thorough search and I still can't find it!

    Someone was making the point that there are a proportionate number of millionaires according to each segment of the population, such that if there are 8% African Americans in America (it's something like 13% of Americans actually, I think) that 8% of millionaires are also African American. It was something to that effect.

    Now that I think about it I may have imagined that the person posted a link about it, because I think I actually asked for a link to prove it. I don't remember now. Lol! :)

    Edit Edit: I found the comment I was referencing but it didn't have the link, as I later realized. https://www.hipforums.com/forum/topic/483661-black-lives-do-count/?view=findpost&p=8099778
     
  4. tikoo

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    The cop who shot Mr. Brown declared he was sorry to have become so angered .
     
  5. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Here is the link I was trying to tell you about. I don't know if it will work, or instead, it may try to make you register with their site. It's supposed to show Asians at 8% while Whites 76% of millionaires.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/300528/us-millionaires-race-ethnicity/
     
  6. Vanilla Gorilla

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    I could also hunt up stats that point to height/baldness privilege amongst whites. In that males above 6 foot with all their hair tend to earn more than anyone else including shorter white dudes.

    I dont see discrimination based on appearance ever changing


    You are walking down the street, 1/2 dozen beefed up tall black guys simply look scarier than pretty much any other group, a little bit more than 1/2 dozen white guys the same size, a lot more than 1/2 dozen elderly black females. And yet if those same black guys are all dressed in suits rather than gang clothes, again there is a big difference

    How is that kind of thing ever going to change?

    You can pretend that if you were walking down a city street at night you wouldnt shit yourself if there where a bunch of gangsta looking big black dudes coming your way, but I dont think anyone is going to believe you
     
  7. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I think it is going to change! :)

    It will change when those same people of color no longer resort to intimidation or modes of dress that suggest criminality. And that happens through opportunity. We're making progress though. Every so slowly there are more socio economic programs to assist with poverty. I think the Trump administration is doing its best to do the opposite though. The tax-break-for-the-wealthy idea is basically doing its best to keep things marginalized. For the sake of fairness though. :)
     
  8. Irminsul

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    Well I don't know what you were going to say, but it's always well thought out and articulate. :)
     
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  9. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Black guys looks 100x better bald than white guys. 100 fold. 100000x folds. Fold that up again 200000 fold better looking.
     
  10. Okiefreak

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    Figures don't lie, but liars can figure. African-Americans share a tradition of slavery and institutionalized segregation in the South, de facto segregation in the North which continued well into the 1960s and was highly disruptive to families. Asians did not experience that, and came from a cultural heritage that valued family ties, education and business prowess. The stats you cite are "apples and oranges" comparisons.
     
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  11. Vanilla Gorilla

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    How is it ever going to really change if you are always going to be more fearful of a group of 6 black guys over a group of 6 that is any other demographic?

    You can deflect the question, but that question will still exist.

    You can deny you wouldnt react differently, no one is going to believe you.

    Words are useless if peoples actions contradict those words.
     
  12. GeorgeJetStoned

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    Now that's rather interesting. You say they "share" a laundry list of terrible experiences that most of them have never known at all. That's part of why things are so fucked up these days. People laying claim to a past they personally don't have. If I just arrived from another galaxy I'd likely think slavery ended 3 years ago and Jim Crow is still in full swing. It's also kind of weird the perspective you have on Asian folks, as if they don't have suffering in their American history. Or is it a scale kind of thing?

    It's hard to tell since the Asian folks by and large aren't bitching about their past in the US nearly as much as others. And they don't seem to whine much about shit that happened in the 19th century. You know, stuff nobody can fix because other people did it to other people. Weird so many Irish-Americans aren't bitching up a storm about their experience. Italian-Americans on the other hand seem to gripe pretty often, but not so much about how America fucked them

    Perhaps the salvation of your position lies in your use of the word "tradition" in this case. Only, traditions are usually handed down and practiced or they fall to the side and are forgotten. So, what has raised all of this from the dead? And I do mean dead since basically ALL of the people who suffered the worst of it have been dead for decades, same as their tormentors.

    Seems more like we're in this weird "payback" scam where today's innocent people are set upon simply because of their color. What a disgusting notion.

    It's also weird that we're hearing the battle cry of racial equality in these protests when it was won long ago, it's already the law of the land. What rights do all those awful, nasty, hateful white racists have that nobody else has? Some of the shit on the pre printed posters these days is amazingly stupid. As if we've made no progress at all in the last 50 years. Poppycock.
     
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  13. Noserider

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    I hope you find the happiness you deserve

    No one should have to go through life as miserable as you.
     
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  14. Okiefreak

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    Not really. I said that the ancestors of African-Americans suffered from a different experience than Asians did, and this has carried over to the present. As recently as the sixties, African-Americans suffered the experience of institutional segregation in southern states including my own. When the University of Oklahoma was finally integrated under court order in the sixties, African-American students had to sit outside the classroom and listen to the lectures through the door. They couldn't use the same drinking fountains as whites, or eat at the same lunch counters. Many of the same restrictions were observed on a de facto basis in northern states. Even after the white majority grudgingly conceded equality, some continued to treat them as inferior up to this very day and resent their progress in gaining equal rights. You talk about this as though it was something long ago and far away. The protests going on now are a response to a rash of killings of blacks by white cops--giving the impression that black lives really don't matter. African-Americans have come a long way in terms of progress, but have a lot farther to go. So you feel set upon? Be thankful that you and your kids can go about your business without fear of being pulled over for driving while white.

    Asians have experienced discrimination, but never had the same history of institutionalized racial segregation that African-Ameican did, and as I said had an exceptional cultural heritage of strong family and emphasis on education. Every group is different. Certainly Jews have had, and continue to experience, their share of savage discrimination, but have also risen to important positions in finance, government and the arts far out of proportion to their numbers. If, by this weird payback, you mean affirmative action, it is admittedly controversial, but I think necessary to compensate for the disadvantages of past discrimination.
     
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  15. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    To interject here I believe You have been brainwashed by the Obamas administration, left wing bullshit which is evident by your quote from the book you quoted into believing that racism is running ramped in the USA. A book published by A group that supported that left wing agenda, propoganda. Are you a white racist? Do you know any racist people or is this just something you read about?

    I truly question your life experiences!
     
  16. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    I am quite happy in life thanks. Do you have anything else to biych about as a poor gay lesbian male who is privileged for being gay?

    Please leave personal ataacks, accessments our of this. It is a forum rule. I don't care about BLM, because they don't matter and neither do you.
     
  17. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    I know plenty of white racists. What do you know? A Canadian, eh?
     
  18. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    You need to repeat sex ed. Gay lesbian male is downright oxymoronic.
     
  19. Beach Ball Lady Balls

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    That is the point! I like neoprene queen but gender on here I question. Re another thread


    As for all your white racist associates, I have my doubts on that.

    And no, I don't know any white racists but do know some, or many black ones who have made racist comments in my prensence, followed by I don't mean you, just everyone else.
     
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  20. Noserider

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    Bye Felicia
     
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