Black Friday

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  1. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_(shopping)
    "The day's name originated in Philadelphia, where it originally was used to describe the heavy and disruptive pedestrian and vehicle traffic which would occur on the day after Thanksgiving. Use of the term started before 1961 and began to see broader use outside Philadelphia around 1975. Later an alternative explanation was made: that retailers traditionally operated at a financial loss ("in the red") from January through November, and "Black Friday" indicates the point at which retailers begin to turn a profit, or "in the black"."


    http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2013/11/29/black-friday-etymology

    "Ever wondered what the term Black Friday really means? Well, if you guess that it's the day store ledgers go from red to black, you're not alone, and you are wrong. Linguist Ben Zimmer set us straight when I first asked him about this last year.
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    BEN ZIMMER: Well, it first became attached to the big post-Thanksgiving shopping rush in the early 1960s in Philadelphia when the police who had to deal with all of the traffic headaches thought that that was just the worst day that they had to deal with.
    CHAKRABARTI: So it's a Black Friday in the 1960s because it was dark day for police officers who had to control traffic. But from what I understand, the term itself, Black Friday, dates to even further back than 1960s.
    ZIMMER: That's true. One researcher has actually turned up a mentioned of Black Friday, referring to the Friday after Thanksgiving, about a decade before that, in 1951, in a journal that was about factory management, where they talked about Black Friday having to do with worker absenteeism. So the factory managers would call that Black Friday.
    CHAKRABARTI: Well, you've dug up a 1951 issue of Factory Management and Maintenance, it looks like an industry journal. And there's an article in that that begins like this - again, this is 1951 - quote: Friday after Thanksgiving-itis is a disease second only to the bubonic plague in its effects. At least that's the feeling of those who have to get production out when the Black Friday comes along. The shop may be half empty, but every absentee was sick and can prove it.
    So again, that's from the 1951 notion of Black Friday being one of absenteeism. But I understand that having it associated with a retail day actually didn't make the merchants all that happy.
    ZIMMER: No. They didn't want to be associated with this term, which was, obviously, very negative. And, in fact, that term, Black Friday, has been associated with particularly notorious days all the way back to the 18th century. And there were some financial panics in the 19th century that were also referred to as Black Friday. So we see in the early examples, the retailers say, can we call this something else? How about Big Friday? They wanted to rebrand it into something more positive.
    But by the 1980s, they had taken that expression, Black Friday, and given it a new explanation. It wasn't because of all the traffic snarls that people had to deal with. But instead, the story about how their stores were going to go into the black, they were going to turn a profit, starts showing up in the 1980s, after about 20 years of usage.
    Huh. Interesting. So you've written that this misunderstanding - or maybe a better term for it is evolution of what Black Friday really means - actually falls into the wider category of something known as etymythology.
    That's a great term that a linguist at Yale University named Larry Horn came up with to describe the false etymologies that people come up with, which seemed a bit like urban myths. And it's interesting to see something like this where we can say pretty firmly that the retail explanation of Black Friday is just historically not true.
    But now it feeds into a kind of a mythology that the retailers themselves perpetuate over the years. And if you are in the retail business, you will learn this story. You will accept it as part of retail lore. And so it just circulates that way, even if it doesn't actually have that historical truth to it."
     
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  2. Aerianne

    Aerianne Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    My daughter shopped black friday online and my daughter-in-law isn't shopping black friday.
     
  3. Kinky Ramona

    Kinky Ramona Back by popular demand!

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    Only plan on hitting the grocery store and the dollar store for some toys for my niece because her mom is silly and always forgets that two year olds like something to play with at grandma's. Already did a little more shopping than we should at the dollar store earlier today because I had permission from the employees to come make them work on Thanksgiving, lol. I seriously asked them if they hated the idea of working on Thanksgiving because I wasn't going to make them work if they did. lol They got holiday pay, so they were all stoked to work.
     
  4. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    As a race we have generally poor eyesight so the large screen is a must if we’re to continue to watch the crap you white people produce each day from local news to network broadcasting


    Hotwater
     
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  5. r0llinstoned

    r0llinstoned Gute Nacht, süßer Prinz

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    Has anyone been pepper sprayed yet?
     
  6. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    I couldn't agree with you more. Except I am not a Jew, so I am not really one of those "white people."

    I actually try to wake my black friends up to how the media serves to control them, and the fact that they're targeted more than anyone else by celebrity distractions. I don't wish to brainwash anyone, but rather wake them up to the truth. Some of the best people I've met are black, so don't think I am bashing black people. It's simply a harmless if politically incorrect observation.
     
  7. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    i plan on going to work all day. i had planned on making it a short day, but at the last minute they decided to run a black friday special and schedule the old people to work the front desk, so basically i'm stuck hanging out all day to walk the front desk people through how to make a sale a few hundred times.

    did you actually have any business?
     
  8. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    [SIZE=medium]I know, and I was just being confrontational :devil:[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=medium]Hotwater[/SIZE]
     
  9. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    I won't even start my car until next Tuesday or Wednesday...
     
  10. Sleeping Caterpillar

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    Wouldn't is suck to be a delivery driver these coming weeks?
     
  11. NurseSteve

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    I'm with all those who do not shop on "Black Friday". I'll go to the grocery store or gas station if needed and I'll not criticize those who go to the package store but I'll not set foot in a mall.
     
  12. Sleeping Caterpillar

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  13. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    which happens, apparently, to be today. if i buy anything today, it will be groceries for the next week or so. i am probably going to sleep most of the daylight hours. at least i am going to lay back down and close my eyes in a few minuets. i'm not desperately out of anything, so there's a really good chance of my not going outside at all. tomorrow i might go out and see if anyone is having a yard sale, or go to one of the places i can walk to. as i need to get some exercise for cardio. but that's really all. i'd like to get some people i know who have been very good to me, some kind of something, but i have no idea what. maybe i'll find some way to make something between now and then. but i'm not going to worry about it. whether i do or not.
     
  14. Joshua Tree

    Joshua Tree Remain In Light

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    I thought it might end in tears...

    http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/nov/28/black-friday-fever-police-battle-shoppers

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  15. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Black Friday is a scam. Retailers artificially inflate prices on their inventory starting around August through November. Then create the illusion that the markdown prices are incredible savings. You'll find that your generation 7 videogame console will be the same price this January as it was today on Black Friday.
     
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  16. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    In all actuality the best time to get junk at the best prices is December 26-30th when the stores need to liquidate as much stock as possible before the fourth quarter inventory.
    Deals can be found or made. [​IMG]
     
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  17. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    Lol.

    Shoppers wrestle over a television as they compete to purchase items on Black Friday at an Asda superstore in Wembley, north London.

    [​IMG]

    Our civilization must have peaked, and is now declining.

    Look at the woman in black, on her knees, desperatly clinging to the fine device that is called television.
    I hope it serves her well.
     
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  18. BlackBillBlake

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    My friday was many coloured. Beautiful colours I saw in trees, the sky, some pictures I looked at by Pre-Raphaelite painters.

    Fuck commodity fetishism with its monotone 'black'. I saw it on the TV news - morons fighting in the supermart over microwaves, TV sets, bikes.
     
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  19. Aerianne

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    Tne commercial chaos of Black Friday was added to by protesters across the country urging people to boycott the high-traffic shopping day in response to a grand jury's decision.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/michael-brown-shooting/ferguson-decision-protesters-target-black-friday-shopping-across-u-s-n257881

    This makes beans for sense to me.
     
  20. deleted

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    they have no money to shop, but rather than say money is the issue, nobody will listen to that bullcrap, everyone will hear their mimicries of unarmed killed by the poopo. not..
     
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