Bible Questions?

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  1. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    No.
     
  2. worldsofdarkblue

    worldsofdarkblue Banned

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    Wow. Talk about a drama queen.
     
  3. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    You talking about yourself again?
     
  4. worldsofdarkblue

    worldsofdarkblue Banned

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    obviously I'm referring to the nutjob who thinks ripping off his clothes and ripping out his hair and beard is the 'called for' reaction to disappointment
     
  5. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Disappointment? You do Ezra a disservice.

    The nation of Israel had just spent some seventy in captivity and slavery to Babylon because of leaving true worship and turning to false gods that did not help them.

    And now they had the opportunity, with the leadership of Ezra and the help of Jehovah, to return to Jerusalem and restore true worship and what is the first thing they do?

    How do they show thankfulness to God for their release from captivity and for reestablishing them as a nation?

    Do they change their ways?

    No, they put God to the test by taking foreign wives.

    Having just lived through seventy years, Ezra knew first hand what such actions could mean for the nation of Israel, that they could return to that captivity and slavery. Ezra also knew how offensive such actions were to Jehovah, who had just released them from that captivity and slavery.

    Ezra was not disappointed, he was mortified.
     
  6. Rudenoodle

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    Since you claim that their manacles had been brought upon them for worshiping false gods is this to mean that it was Jesus's father who was responsable for there rotten luck?


    Oh no! not foreign wives!

    Could there be anything more disrespectful than marrying someone from somewhere else?

    Where is the marrying of foreign wives forbidden and why?

    Tearing out your beard and ripping apart your clothes because you have heard about people intermarrying sounds insane to me, out of curiosity what would make the writers of the bible add in those three details about an event that by bible standards was pretty mild, however when dealing with the early life of Jesus remain so vague?
     
  7. Rudenoodle

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    Deuteronomy

    17:1 Thou shalt not sacrifice unto the LORD thy God any bullock, or sheep, wherein is blemish, or any evilfavouredness: for that is an abomination unto the LORD thy God.

    Why is god so finicky when it comes to animal sacrifice, after all he is responsable for the animals blemishes according to the text...
     
  8. thedope

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    It is one thing to say something, it is another to really mean it.
     
  9. OlderWaterBrother

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    Jehovah had many times protected Jerusalem from invading armies when Jerusalem was faithful but when Jerusalem was unfaithful he simply removed his protection and they fell to the invading armies.
    This Scripture not only restates the law but shows the results. (1 Kings 11:1-6) And King Sol′o·mon himself loved many foreign wives along with the daughter of Phar′aoh, Mo′ab·ite, Am′mon·ite, E′dom·ite, Si·do′ni·an [and] Hit′tite women, from the nations of whom Jehovah had said to the sons of Israel: “YOU must not go in among them, and they themselves should not come in among YOU; truly they will incline YOUR heart to follow their gods.” It was to them that Sol′o·mon clung to love [them]. And he came to have seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines; and his wives gradually inclined his heart. And it came about in the time of Sol′o·mon’s growing old that his wives themselves had inclined his heart to follow other gods; and his heart did not prove to be complete with Jehovah his God like the heart of David his father. And Sol′o·mon began going after Ash′to·reth the goddess of the Si·do′ni·ans and after Mil′com the disgusting thing of the Am′mon·ites. And Sol′o·mon began to do what was bad in the eyes of Jehovah, and he did not follow Jehovah fully like David his father.
    I could guess but the Bible doesn't say.
     
  10. OlderWaterBrother

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    The sacrifices represented the sacrifice that Jesus would provide. Since Jesus' sacrifice would be his perfect sinless life, without blemish, likewise the sacrifices that would represent that sacrifice would have to be with out blemish.
     
  11. Balqis

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    The nation of Israel had just spent some seventy in captivity and slavery to Babylon because of leaving true worship and turning to false gods that did not help them.

    Where is the evidence of this? there is No archaeological evidence to back this up, but there is evidence that there was a whole village for the workforce who built the pyramids, and they where Egyptian, the jews where not enslaved, it never happened.
     
  12. OlderWaterBrother

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    Well, there may not be a lot of archaeological evidence but there is some but anyway what is your point, the Bible says it happened and since this Sanctuary, the Bible is given some credibility as a source for what happened.
     
  13. Monkey Boy

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    Is the number 666 in these two texts related to one another? If so, how?

    The weight of the gold that Solomon received yearly was 666 talents, [d] 15 not including the revenues from merchants and traders and from all the Arabian kings and the governors of the land. (1 Kings 10:14)

    18This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666. (Revelation 13:19)
     
  14. worldsofdarkblue

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    Ezra was mortified? For the taking of an unapproved wife? He KNOWS that this will lead his people to slavery? Not too large an assumption, ay? So he tore off his clothes, ripped out his hair and beard? Naturally this is the thing to do. Don't we all do such things when our relatives don't conform their actions to our opinions. Really is quite a common reaction, ay. In insane asylums anyway.

    Like I said before - talk about a drama queen
     
  15. stoney69

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    inherited sin from Adam eh?
     
  16. Rudenoodle

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    How much time has passed between this scripture being originally written and the actual human sacrifice of Jesus?
     
  17. Rudenoodle

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    I don't remember where but I seem to recall reading about the number 616 being the actual number of the beast and somehow it has been misinterpreted as 666, has anyone else heard anything about this?
     
  18. Rudenoodle

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    In what way did he protect Jerusalem originally, if the armies were indeed invading it would seem that a physical manifestation would be in order or did Jehovah protect the city in some other type of way?


    So it's not wives from other territories that was the supposed problem but there beliefs that they attempted to share?

    Why forbid forign wives when the problem (as always it would seem) was just xenophobia of other religions?

    The lack of background information on the early life of Brian, errr, I mean Jesus seems to be a overlooked portion of his character throughout history, why would no one think to scribe a book about his pre-clerical work?

    Maybe the life of a carpenter was just really boring? :D
     
  19. OlderWaterBrother

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    It was things like this that had already lead to their captivity, why would it again?

    And it wasn't a matter of conforming to his opinion, it was a matter of conforming to God's opinion.
     
  20. OlderWaterBrother

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    No, it was the personal sin of Solomon. ;)
     
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