Bible Questions?

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  1. stoney69

    stoney69 Member

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    interpretations are confusing, you quote the 2nd commandment, and now say but that is invalid for christians. so why quote it, and why have it as a part of the Bible? just to show that it was ordained upon a people before us ? its amazing how inconsistencies are not questioned
     
  2. stoney69

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    so what you're saying is Paul knew Jesus personally?
     
  3. Monkey Boy

    Monkey Boy Senior Member

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    I believe he's infinite so yes.

    Jehovah God is one, but he has different attributes.

    Consider Genesis 1:26

    26 Then Jehovah God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness.

    Jesus is his wisdom/logos personified.
     
  4. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    There is inherited sin and there are sins we personally commit that are not inherited.
     
  5. Monkey Boy

    Monkey Boy Senior Member

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    I read all of Genesis and Exodus last year and that verse really that stood out the most to me. It shows God's on our side.
     
  6. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Didn't know there were rules about it. :rolleyes:
     
  7. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    It is not an inconsistency, as I have already said:
    The principles are still valid even though we are not under the Law.
     
  8. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    No, Paul did not know Jesus personally but many of the writers of the Christian Greek Scriptures did, take Peter, for instance, he was with Jesus from the beginning of his ministry.
     
  9. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    If god is omniscient how can free will exist?
     
  10. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    How many times I got to tell you, omniscience is the ability to know all things and like omnipotence God can use all or any part of it he deems necessary to do the job at hand. Thus when God chose to give some of his creations free will, at that time God chose not to know their individual choices and not to know their individual life courses.
     
  11. stoney69

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    which is?
     
  12. stoney69

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    you defend inconsistencies, by saying it is not one ? what is 'principles' when you are above the Law ?

    John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
    John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
     
  13. stoney69

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    so surely, Paul's work is that of his own?
     
  14. aFoolOnaHill

    aFoolOnaHill Proper Villain

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    Ignorance is no excuse :rolleyes:
     
  15. Monkey Boy

    Monkey Boy Senior Member

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    Does "wisdom" in Proverbs refer to Jesus?

    “Jehovah possessed me in the beginning of his way, Before his works of old. I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, Before the earth was. When there were no depths, I was brought forth, When there were no fountains abounding with water. Before the mountains were settled, Before the hills was I brought forth; While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, Nor the beginning of the dust of the world. When he established the heavens, I was there: When he set a circle upon the face of the deep, When he made firm the skies above, When the fountains of the deep became strong, When he gave to the sea its bound, That the waters should not transgress his commandment, When he marked out the foundations of the earth; Then I was by him, as a master workman; And I was daily his delight, Rejoicing always before him, Rejoicing in his habitable earth; And my delight was with the sons of men”. Provers 8:22-31

    Just so you know where I'm coming from I'm about 80% convinced that the trinity is true based various Bible verses.
     
  16. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    Who says I was asking you?

    So your going to claim that god is not totally omniscient about the universe around him, only half?

    If he didn't know the future of his creations why did he create a son to save them from sin?

    What was to happen if Jesus never came and god didn't interfere?
     
  17. Monkey Boy

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    Your already know where I stand on omniscience so I won't go there.

    Just because Jesus was born out of Jehovah doesn't mean he was created by Jehovah. How can God create his own wisdom? It's possible Jehovah's wisdom was always in him.

    Destruction and death.
     
  18. stoney69

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    what you see of the destruction and death is just special effects
     
  19. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    I feel the same here...
     
  20. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Which is what? :confused:
     
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