Bible Questions?

Okay here is the second commandment: (Exodus 20:4-6) “You must not make for yourself a carved image or a form like anything that is in the heavens above or that is on the earth underneath or that is in the waters under the earth. 5 You must not bow down to them nor be induced to serve them, because I Jehovah your God am a God exacting exclusive devotion, bringing punishment for the error of fathers upon sons, upon the third generation and upon the fourth generation, in the case of those who hate me; 6 but exercising loving-kindness toward the thousandth generation in the case of those who love me and keep my commandments.

Where does it say anything about punishing mankind for the sins of Adam and Eve?

This commandment was being given to the Nation of Israel and reflected what would happen to that nation if they turned away from true worship as opposed to what would happen if they stayed faithful. If Israel turned away from God they would suffer the bad effects of that for 3 or 4 generations but if they remained faithful the good effects would last for a 1,000 generations.

 

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Yea, I do have a question.
olderwaterbrother, Are you a christian or a intellectual?
I see a lot of answers here,but the love seems to be lacking.

 

Well, this is Sanctuary and only "Christians" are suppose to be here but if anyone has a Bible question, I'm willing to try and answer it using the Bible to the best of my limited ability. But yes, some just come to try prove that God doesn't exist and that the Bible is wrong.

 

Didn't bother to read what I wrote about it, I see.

Once again it does not say any thing about all of mankind being punished for the disobedience of Adam and Eve. It does not say any thing about Adam and Eve and it says to the 3rd or 4th generation not to all generations and the law was speaking to the nation of Israel not all mankind.

 

That's where the asylum was located.

 

We are all brothers in Christ. Christ is the true authority of "Gods' Children". Olderwaterbrother has a theological view which is built over time through commentary, a manufactured hierarchy that has nothing to do with the ontological teaching of Christ. Jesus continually rebuked his disciples in regards to discussions about who held the highest place. In my opinion, theology is a degenerate form of mythology.

 

Christian apologists hate fruits.

Are you trying to say that the lions are being thrown into a pit of hungry christians?

If you are stating that you need multiple translations of the same book in order to make it appear to be at least somewhat likely that should put anyone who is thinking about taking this seriously on guard right away.

Of course even if this person in question did manage to carefully read every passage of every version of the bible they would still come up with contradictions and inaccuracies, when these would be brought up to the apologist they would simply tell them to learn ancient Hebrew or some type of old age Orthodox Greek, and even then the circle of their faith would not be squared.

In order to take the Christian religion seriously you must like those who follow Islam submit all reason to it's multiple versions of the words of god and company, you must rely on blind faith in the end, which to me is the very core of a successful con job, getting people to want to believe in it.

 

If one would study a work then all resources available are needed.
There comes a time when,in seeking the kingdom,one finishes their biblical studies and look at other spiritual studies and insights as well.
however the person that was being addressed was asking questions about the Bible, so if one looks at different versions answers appear more readily.Sort of like hearing different views.


thedope:
UNDERSTOOD.
My mistake I thought that this was for all christians, but understand it is a thread started by one person wanting to answer questions.My bad.

 

And maybe sometimes a little bit more than the bible perhaps?

The law was speaking to the nation of Israel and not all mankind? What about the rest of the old testament? Who was that meant for? I read what you wrote, I just disagree with your interpretation (and with how it seems to conflict with other things you have posted)... for example

What wrong choices has an embryo made? So maybe it's not Adam and Eve's choices that we are being punished for, but merely the unbroken line of sinners between us and them... That's a semantic issue, but the result is the same.

 

Is there anything wrong with being both or do you have something against a thinking Christian?

As for love, do you look to Jesus for your example or do have your own defination of what love is?

 

Like what?

The law was for the nation of Israel and not for Gentiles. Gentiles have never been under the law.

What about the the "Old Testament"? There is much in the "Old Testament that is not part of the law.

The wrong choices were made by Adam and Eve not by the embryo.

Punished? It is not a punishment from God that we have inherited sin, inherited sin comes from Adam and Eve, not God.

 

its not the sins of Adam and Eve, but the past 3-4 generation's for not exclusively devoting to the One God. Basically 'hating' or transgressing against Him ..as a matter of fact, forget the exclusivity that the One God demanded, apparently the Father God should be prayed to, via the 'Son' (owb's comments). ask the majority of Christians who their God is, and it wouldn't be The One!

 

I like this verse. I think it says a lot about God in the old testament.

 

I was asked if I had a question and I asked a question.

You didn't answer, but instead asked me a question.

are you going to answer my question?

The question is so simple I wouldn't think it wouldn't need any clarification.

To answer your question, the love of Christ is the measure I use,

as we are to imitate his teaching, not invent our own definitions or defend our own perceptions.

 

Too bad it takes a crisis for people to do what Jesus commands us to do all the time.

Sorry OWB. I'll try to stick to questions.

 

you mean, what the One God commands to do ?

 

Do you believe God is omnipresent?

 

do you?

 

Actually, asking if I was a Christian or not is a simple question but you did not ask that. You asked:

Which seems to imply that you have to be one or the other and I don't agree that they have mutually exclusive but that one can be both. Then you add the "I see a lot of answers here,but the love seems to be lacking", which also modify the "simple" question so that it isn't so simple anymore but is now a minefield with all sorts of implied accusations.

I would have said imitate the Christ and follow his teachings, I'm not sure how one would imitate his teachings.