Bible Questions? III

I used cannabis for many years, and while it has many benefits it also has many detrimental effects. One of those is its ability to speed up the process for those that are predisposed to schizophrenia.

There is certainly nothing wrong with using cannabis for entertainment value or to relieve the symptoms of illnesses, especially in a medically prescribed and legal setting. But when cannabis is touted as a cure-all world fixer that debate about it tends towards, that's when I have to step in a say, "alright man, this is getting a little silly". Why? Because it isn't a world fixer and it has just as bad negatives as it does positives. The drug effects everyone differently. Some may even become more active while using it and while others not so much. When I was on it, I did some things that I normally would not, many of them beneficial, but there is a certain amount being used that really does burn a person out and this is usually when the smoker rationalizes its usage and is in bit of denial as to its negative effects on the persons life.

Also, isn't the THC in cannabis oil only fat and alcohol soluble? Is there any evidence that they extracted THC from this? Is there any proof that they didn't just use the THC neutral hemp? It's impossible to get high on hemp because there are conflicting chemicals in it that negate the effects of THC.

As for your list of all the cures, there can be found just as many articles that say that this is not so, and others that say that while it has an effect on this ailments, it doesn't have nearly the affect that they were hoping for.

In regards to your statement that weed was not as potent as it is now, I don't agree. People of all ages are virtually identical. People that enjoy getting high would find out ways how to get higher. The potency has probably always been the same.

I am all for legalization btw.

Prop 18 FTW, GO CALI!

 

Well I can see that cannabis has been no problem for you, other than the fact you now feel that the world revolves around cannabis and that cannabis can cure all the ills of the world except death. You also seem to think that one can know God unless they have smoked up. Well good luck with that but I think I'll stick to a world of reality, rather than one of illusion, thank you very much.

 

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No, I believe all three exist, I just don't believe that all three are one thing that at the same time three different things.

 

Really, how so?

 

Keep telling your self that.

How many personal questions have I asked you?

If my motives are so "obscure", then why do you keep telling me what they are?

Is this a Bible question?

 

Although I don't promote any political agenda, I think the illegalization of drugs has had the same effect, only worse, as the alcohol prohibition laws that were overturned. Those laws have provided the money that has fueled the rampant crime and violence in the streets.

 

Completely agreed. Like it has been said, it's not a criminal problem, but a public health problem. Although I am not protesting one way about it, I wouldn't mind to see it happen.

 

I never said anything of the sort. Again you're attributing words to me. You seem to do this quite a bit when you don't like what you hear. Rather than use logic you accuse. Seems fitting.

Show me where I said this. I never wrote that. Why do you insist upon accusing me and others of having ulterior motives, just because you don't like the content of what is being discussed. You discuss peace and such issues however they seem to come off as a form of man made fascism as opposed to a genuine belief in all that is good. Do you not get tired of always pointing your finger? My only motive is to find truth. What is yours?

One can only see their delusions when they see themselves from an outside point of you. It's unfortunate you're not into out of body experiences.

Reality is that which you make it, nothing more.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Translation - Don't accuse others when you're guilty of things yourself. You seemed to have skipped right over that lesson.

 

We saw a man casting out demons in your name but he was not with us,.... "do not forbid him, he that is not against us is for us."

 

I am telling you. It is the truth.

I haven't counted, sorry.

What is your motive for asking me the same question over and over when I had given you my answer at the first?
What I have told you is the reason you feel anxiety around me, is that you have judged me as being deceived in spirit. The measure you give is the measure you get. Your giving produces the effects you know as your experience. You choose your belief that you have the correct pulse on all things in the bible over the sincere testimony of your brother. Remove the log from your own eye. Anxiety and love are not the same. Waterbrother, if the measure we give is the measure we get, then the only thing absent from any situation is what we have not given.

No, Like I said, it is a question about your proposition, your statement in regards to how obscurity might suit my purposes. The reason I ask if it is a bible question is because I don't know what question you are referring to. I do not mind that you ask me personal questions.

 

Waterbrother, if the measure we give is the measure we get, then the only thing absent from any situation is what we have not given.

I apologize for any way I have slighted you, real or imagined. It is not my intent.

 

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge; because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you will be no priest to Me … for I desired mercy and not sacrifice. (Hosea 4:6, 6:6)

Blessed are the peacemakers. (Matthew 5:9)

It was God who created cannabis hemp and told mankind to use "every green herb" on Earth. The Bible speaks of mercy, healing and a persecution of God's children. They persecute me wrongfully; help thou me. (Psalms 119:86) Prisons and drug wars do not save souls. The Lord… hath sent me to bind up the broken hearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives and the opening of the prison to them that are bound. (Isaiah 61:1)

He said not to criticize other people for their habits. "Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; that which cometh out of the mouth defileth a man." (Mat. 15:11) The apostle Paul wrote, I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean. … For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. (Paul: Romans 14:14,17)

How was cannabis used in Biblical times and lands?
Cannabis was used 12 ways: clothing, paper, cord, sails, fishnet, oil, sealant, incense, food, and in ceremony, relaxation and medicine. For so the Lord said unto me, "I will take my rest and I will consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs. For afore harvest, when the bud is perfect and the sour grape is ripening in the flower, he shall cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks and take away and cut down the branches." (Isaiah 18:4-5)

God said, "Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed which is upon the face of all the earth.…To you it will be for meat." … And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. (Genesis 1:29-31) The Bible predicts some herb's prohibition. "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times, some shall … speak lies in hypocrisy … commanding to abstain from meats which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. (Paul: 1 Timothy 4:1-3)

The Bible speaks of a special plant. "I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more." (Ezekiel 34:29) A healing plant. On either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare 12 manner of fruits, and yielding her fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. (Revelations 22:1-2) A gift from God.

(Cannabis is mentioned in Ex. 30:23 but King James mistranslated it as 'sweet calamus') :
Moreover, the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, 23 Take thou also unto thee principal spices, of pure myrrh five hundred shekels, and of sweet cinnamon half so much, even 250 shekels, and of qaneh-bosm [cannabis] 250 shekels, 24 And of cassia 500 shekels, after the shekel of the sanctuary, and of oil olive an hin: 25 And thou shalt make it an oil of holy anointment, an ointment compound after the art of the apothecary: it shall be an holy anointing oil. 26 And thous shalt anoint the tabernacle of the congregation therewith, and the ark of the testimony, 27 And the table and all his vessels, and the candlestick ahd his vessels, and the altar of incense, 28 And the altar of burnt offerings with all his vessels, and the laver and his foot. 29 And thou shalt sanctify them, that they may be most holy: whatsoever toucheth them shall be holy. (Exodus 30:22-29)

* As one shekel equals approximately 16.37 grams, this means that the THC from over 9 pounds of flowering cannabis tops were extracted into a hind, about 6.5 litres of oil. The entheogenic effects of such a solution -- even when applied topically -would undoubtedly have been intense.
He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle and herb for the service of man: that he may bring forth food out of the earth; And wine that maketh glad the heart of man and oil to make his face to shineth. (Psalm 104:14-15)

The Lord said unto me, "I will take my rest and I will consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs, and like a cloud of dew in the heat of harvest. For afore the harvest, when the bud is perfect and the sour grape is ripening in the flower, he shall cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks and take away and cut down the branches. (Is. 18:4-5)

And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more. (Ezekiel 34:29)

Jesus: "Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man." (Matt. 15:11)

One believeth that he may eat all things. Another…eateth herbs. … Let us not, therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumbling block or an occasion to fall in his brother's way. I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean. For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Ghost. (Epistle of St. Paul: Romans 14: 2,3,13,14,17)

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times, some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused if it be received with thanksgiving: For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereupon thou hast attained. (Paul: 1 Timothy 4:1-6)

And he showed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielding her fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. (Rev. 22:1-2)

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Will not observing the Sabbath threaten your salvation?

 

Depending on your definition of Sabbath, yes or no.

Will skipping Sunday Mass for trivial reasons like football or laziness (not sickness or caring for one who is ill) threaten your salvation, yes.

 

In not remembering the sabbath, the world that god created good and complete, we loose our perception of the holy nature of our experience.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F5C0rrncXE"]YouTube - Black Sabbath - Sweet Leaf

 

It's all mental structure for understanding historical structure, which some claim to know already. Usually these are immoral people.

 

Am assuming u want to justicfy weed smoking but its against the bible since it speaks of keeping ur body as clean as possible. Just like alcohol destroy our liver physically, marijuana kills our brains physically. When I get the chance I will try to use verse.


Also u are qouting wrong verse that have nothing to do with marijuana like the tree of life verse u used in the last paragraph.

 

God desires all to be saved. God loves all yet has made a place for those he loves to be punnished for eternity. Our will to be lazy and not go to church can over power God's will to save all. I keep pouring over the Bible and it remains completely contradictory until all power is given to God.

 

I find similarly, that it all falls apart if you believe that you are a body. It is the evidence of the body that convinces one, they are alone and separate.