Bi men and aging

My first question to Mr. Conner would be, "Who are you to know what God intended?" which, of course, is the way he justifies his racial prejudices while claiming to be a good Christian. Staying on topic, when you're getting older, you should know better than to say shit like this and behaving in a very un-Christian-like manner; you must see that it doesn't make sense and it doesn't make you a good person. The problem is that in the US, you have the right to be a racist and bigot and to give voice to your prejudices... until someone jumps in your ass for being this way and a religious hypocrite, to boot.

Wouldn't surprise me if Mr. Connor has a love for Black pussy...

 

....imagine if Mr. "Bull" had a hankering for both black PUSSY and black COCK(!!)

Many times these self-righteous, ultra-religious, conservative guys are harboring lustful, taboo thoughts and fantasies that they dare not reveal.

Back in the 60's, they used to say: "There is only ONE race-the HUMAN race".

Why we continue to look for the things in others that set them part from us instead of looking at what we SHARE, and what we ALL have in common!

It's now like the older we get the dumber and more ignorant we get.

The "dumbing down of America", for sure.

What the hell ever happened to "with age comes wisdom"

 

It's a species thing, something we developed in order to survive: If you're not like us, you're against us and you will get dealt with. Humans aren't the only ones who behaves like this - there are other examples within the animal kingdom where if you don't belong, um, that's your ass. We've yet to outgrow this behavior and you hear of assholes like this guy, spouting racial hatred rhetoric while, behind his closed doors, he's banging the non-white housekeeper because his wife can't even compare with this sexual experience. It's old news and not really worth talking about.

Wisdom does come with age; you don't get to be old being a fool. True that, in many ways, we've gotten dumber and in the name of making things easier, like how cell phones turned into mobile phones then turn into hand-held computing devices that even a three-year-old can operate easily while we wind up losing the skill of how to talk to each other, write letters, go to a store to shop for things and a lot of other skills that I learned as a child - and still use today; like I use my iPhone... as a phone and only when I leave home.

And I can sign my name with the cursive writing I was taught in elementary school. We can only and truly get dumber if we allow it to happen and my mother didn't raise any fools or dummies.

"There is only one race - the human race!" is lip-service type shit because, duh, humans are at the top of the pyramid, and we stand alone up there. Doesn't mean that we're the smartest but our brains are the most developed and evolved. We can say the words, but we do not honor what they mean. Then you have the political crazies either running for office or are already in office and trying to undo everything we've done over the last twenty years (or longer) because they can't function in the world as it is - they want to stick to the old ways and, well, that never works...

 

I do know that in most (all?) schools today, "penmanship" is now virtually extinct (as is "Home Ec" for girls; in my mother's time, it was "Domestic Science".

Until a few years before she passed at age 99 eight years ago, Mom had truly beautiful handwriting; in fact, she had a certificate for the famed Palmer Method (issued in 1930!)

Had she not had to leave school to help out at home (this was the Depression era) Mom had wanted to become a schoolteacher.

Without basic writing skills, how are the adults of the future going to sign checks or documents?

Duh!

Getting back on topic, I have to wonder how many "straight" married men harbored deep-seated bisexual urges for years, and only decided to act on them when the wife was no longer interested in sex.

I'm sure there are more than a few, for sure....................

 

More guys that you can shake a dick - uh - a stick at. This particular situation is directly responsible for a lot of men turning to guys for sex although I'm still at a loss at how the logic works except to theorize that a guy has had a bad case of "dick on the brain" and now that the little woman is no longer interested in having sex, that leaves him "free" to explore the possibilities with other guys. This falls way short with those guys who, up until this moment, wouldn't even think about having sex with a dude but, damn, no more pussy to be had and... getting with a guy is the solution and it makes perfectly good sense.

When I was a teen, I sucked a lot of married cock belonging to men who weren't having sex with their wives and specifically those women who threw in the towel and said that they're done with sex and nothing hubby was going to say or do was going to change their mind and, as a result, I'm sucking their dick, it's in my ass or, hmm, I'm the one fucking them and confused about why they're acting like... a girl when, clearly, they aren't. More information is needed... and I got it and, well, okay, if that's what floats their boat but it remained "true" that a lot of married men, instead of going to another woman for sex, decided that having sex with a dude was the thing that made the most sense and the only thing to do at this point - and, in those early days, it was believed that having a same-sex encounter with someone wasn't the same as cheating on her with another woman.

A lot of those men - and for the sake of being able to marry her - put their same-sex urges on hold and on a shelf and life was good right up to the moment when he sees the first signs that she's not feeling having sex and, as the saying goes, it's the beginning of the end but guys who have been with their wives for, oh, let's say, 15 years or more aren't likely to divorce her... but they don't necessarily want to go get pussy somewhere else but sex with a guy? Yeah, that's the ticket! And I've heard those men say, "Doing this with you is better than no sex at all..." and I wasn't of a mind to argue with them since I was getting to feed that cocksucking beast that lived inside of me.

I found that some guys do wake up in the morning and decided that today is a good day to start sucking dicks... because their wife isn't going to have sex with them ever again. Guys having the urge already? I understand this logic; I just don't know how the hell this works for a man who has never given a single thought about sleeping with a man... before now.

And so many of them not only wanting to have sex with a guy but they want to be "the girl" in this, first and foremost (think submissive/dedicated bottoms). It's something I saw in my youth and the many, many times I had a guy's dick in my mouth because he couldn't get any pussy and jerking off had become a waste of time and energy.

As an aside, I learned the Palmer method in junior high school and went with it going forward...

 

When it comes to "straight" married men, whom, in their older years, are just discovering how hot sex with another guy can be, and letting their long-sidetracked m/m urges and sex drives to finally see that sex with other guys is NOT as "taboo" or as "degenerate" as they had been led to believe, throughout their life.

Wanna bet that more than a few such guys are now kicking themselves, and saying "Why the hell did I wait so long?"

It's all so complex, and yet so ridiculously simple, all at the same time..............

 

KDaddy23:

Just curious if that you were ever successful in getting a "straight" guy to "take the plunge" and have sex with either yourself or another male?

I have the feeling that you could be quite "persuasive"........

 

You bet I have and I've been told that I can sell ice water in hell. Most of those guys didn't need a lot of persuading; they were just about there thanks to females who wasn't going to give them any pussy or having been deemed to be not worth having sex with, leaving such guys highly frustrated and at their wit's end - and jerking off is just making them even more frustrated and pissed off so convincing them that I could, ah, say, give them a blowjob and they'd feel so much better, it doesn't mean that either of us are gay but, you know, when you need a woman to do right by you, either she ain't gonna do it or she's gonna make you pay for it and, heck, you don't have to do anything except let me suck you off and you have word that I will never tell anyone we did this.

I've gotten to suck them off; a few I was okay with them fucking me; all but maybe three or four found that sucking cock and swallowing cum isn't really as bad as everyone says it is and I had a couple of guys I was in a 69 with stopped sucking me so they could ask me to fuck them. It seemed to me that once they got over that initial fear and found that a dude blowing them was damned good, some of formerly straight guys wanted to take things to the fucking stage and most found that they'd rather be fucked than to be the one fucking. The formerly straight guys were good to go getting some dick - mine or some other guy - until the pussy started flowing for them again - but I wasn't worried because I knew that once the pussy dried up again, they'd be back and looking to have sex with me (and talking about how much they missed me and other bullshit I wasn't believing).

 

A lot of guys who got their first experience with me asked that question along with, "What was I afraid of?" and, classically, "That wasn't as bad as I thought it would be!" which was code for it wasn't as bad as they were told it was. "How come I never did this before now?" was a qustion I never really tried to answer except to say, "Things happen when they're supposed to. Do you wanna go again?"

 

EXCELLENT posts!

Why am I not surprised at your outstanding talent for "salesmanship"?

I am just now reminded of the screwball Barbra Streisand screwball comedy from way back in 1974, "For Pete's Sake".

Upon hearing Streisand's MORE than "persuasive" telemarketing shpiel, her black housekeeper admiringly remarks, "You could sell Confederate flags in Harlem!"

You, my friend, would indeed have no problem selling air-conditioners at the South Pole, or furnaces in Saudi Arabia!

All kidding aside, it's all just what you and I both truly believe: "SEX is SEX, period!", where you are getting it on with a woman or another male.

Again, I also believe that modern man's powerful sex urges is one of the most tangible links to our Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal ancestors.................

 

Just for a laugh......

In my (much) younger days, when I first heard the term "bisexual", I thought it meant that you had sex every other month; I also once thought (and I kid you not!) thought that "oral sex" was when you TALKED about sex instead of actually DOING it(!!) Yeah, I was pretty damn naive, for sure, and at least I can laugh about it today!

But, seriously, IMHO, I often wonder if men who are vehemently against m/m sex are, in fact, themselves turned on by the idea, but are far too afraid to acknowledge their hidden dark desires, and, by acting out in homophobic ways, makes them feel that no fingers could possibly be pointing at them in suspect.

"Society", in far too many narrow-minded ways, has indeed really messed with the minds of too many guys, filling their heads with pure bullshit and asinine views, that are, when all is said and done, as useless as yesterday's trash.

Like the old time-worn standard: REAL men don't cry.....REAL men don't show emotion, especially to another man...so, then, what DOES constitute MANLY behavior?

What a load of crap............................

 

If a senior married guy, in his later years, FINALLY decides to (for whatever reason) give into his bi urges and start engaging in m/m sex, even I know that an entirely new world will open op for him, with a lot of experimenting and exploring (he also just might even find out he prefers to bottom as much as top!)

I think it is key here for the guy to slowly let his guard down and just "go with the flow"; he easily will feeling nerve endings being excited that he never even knew he had, especially if he is bottoming for the first time!

Main thing is to put all the friggin' taboos and other negative bullshit out of his head and just "live for the moment"...................

 

I believe older men get into it out of NEED. We are as horny as we were all of our lives. When younger, having sex was never an issue. It was an every day occurance. When the wife was done with sex herself, she thought I would jerk off and that would take care of my needs. My wife is the one who suggested going the bi route. There weren't too many women looking for old guys to fuck for fun. Our old gay friend fit the bill. He was in his 70s, alone and horny, just like me. I have no doubts that I could easily hook up with, but that is not approved by wife. She actually conciders it benificial for our needs, which exceed jerking off. She had told me that she would have been cool with this years ago because she always was a big fag hag. I was too uptight to do anything like this, back when women were easily available for fun. I guess it was time .

 

Yes, definitely out of need; in my younger days, it was stupidly easy to get a dick to suck - just find the horniest guy around and make him an offer and 8 out of 10 times, he was taking it because getting a blowjob from me had to be better than having their balls hurting like a motherfucker. I introduced a lot of guys to this way of sex because they had the great need and women, well, they weren't helping the guys out, to put it bluntly. Into my 20s, a lot of guys were leery about it but, again, super horny, jerking off wasn't doing anything, bad case of blue balls - and a fear of turning into a flaming gay dude would get shoved to the side so they could bust a nut in my mouth - and many of them found that sucking cock wasn't all that bad and the taste wasn't all that bad either.

Into my 30s and I'm cruising right along but guys were looking for alternatives to pussy and allowing themselves to make their M2M fantasies a reality so there was a mix of younger (but legal) guys, guys my age, and guys in their 40s who succumbed to the need to have sex and like one guy said, "Every gay man who ever lived couldn't have been wrong about the sex!" and he was right - they weren't wrong and with me, they found out that you don't have to be gay to enjoy sex with a guy. Into my 40s and 50s and I wasn't introducing a lot of new guys but there were plenty of "old hands" to play with and a new crop of 20-somethings looking for "daddy" to teach them how to get some dick; maybe not so much out of that great sense of need - but with the exception of those guys who had their lady give up on sex and they've been left high and dry and... how bad can it be to get a blowjob or to give one?

And all along the years, many a guy who has wondered what he was afraid of or why he didn't do this before now and, you betcha, it wasn't as bad as they thought or heard. There are guys whose relationships have gone sexless so the need is still driving them to give up the dick to another guy but there are so many other guys who seem to "know" that while it's all well and good to get sex from women, getting some dick can't be that bad... and of course, it isn't - but I can only imagine what it's like to be 50 and just now getting a hankering for cock or being driven that way out of that great and undeniable need...

 

I think that, in context, the older a guy is, the greater his need for sex becomes - and that includes the intimacy that comes with being sexually involved with someone. The good thing about being bisexual is that you don't have to depend on women to supply you with sex - and this isn't saying anything bad about women because we're not the only ones who eventually run out of gas - women tend to empty their tank way before we do. Maybe you don't know what it's like to provide sex to a man who's been starving for it for years; masturbation is fine and dandy but, yeah, it gets old and repetitive and it doesn't take long to rub one out and you just don't feel relieved or even satisfied - what you need is that human interaction and... if that means turning to a guy to get the sex you need, um, uh, shit - it has to be better than nothing at all.

Never underestimate what giving such a man a blowjob can do for him, mind and body. Some men express regret in that they had a chance when they were younger to find out what this was like - and they passed on it in order to comply with what we're told to do: Find a woman, marry her, have children with her, and until death do you part. Or seeing them break down and cry because of the relief they feel to have sex with someone again. Or the look of wonder I've seen when he gets to realize that men do give blowjobs and more so when he's never had one from his woman - and he's been driven to seek out a man because that need is still great and needs always must.

Or laughing to myself as such a man is thrusting into my mouth and muttering something about hating having to do this... but he's doing it and he's not going to stop until he cums and... that's the whole purpose, isn't it? To be able to take care of that need and in a way that... wasn't all that bad and something they should have done way before now? I've had to explain to such men that, look, it's just sex; if it means anything else, that's optional and we can do this again and as much as you want to and all it means is it's just sex and if you don't want it to be anything other than that, I'm not gonna be mad at you.

Just lie back and let me do my thing and, yeah, if the mood hits you, feel free to give my cock some attention because at the end of any day, it's all about having a way to take care of that need.

 

KDaddy23:

Once again, EXCELLENT views, opinions, and just plain-out common sense.

Basically, the concept of bisexuality could not be simpler.

All it means is that a man enjoys sex with both men and women.

Period.

It is the useless stereotypes, the fear of being labeled a "half fag", stigmas, etc, that indeed greatly complicate it all.

Of course, if the bi guy is married, not getting anyway, the situation becomes even more complicated, involving so much more; this, of course, also boils down to the wife in the dark or totally acknowledging her husband's need and desire to have sex with other men, and being OK with it.

OR, threatening separation or divorce if hubby does not stop engaging in sex with men.

However, if the wife (if present) and having no issues, then the husband should just cast all the negativity to the winds and forge into new (and exciting) waters.............

 

It couldn't get any simpler - and when you get older, you get to see how simple it is and can be. The stigma fucks with a lot of guys - but it's just talk; it's uninformed opinions based upon some religious dogma that people would rather believe the truth. It can only complicate things if you pay attention to it - and most guys can't figure that one out and continue to be plagued by words. It doesn't sink into their heads that it doesn't matter what someone else thinks or says - it's what you think that matters the most - and the stigma isn't as effective as society thinks it is... because bisexuality is still very much alive and well among men and women.

Marriage, relationships, and monogamy just fucks everything up as far as sexuality goes and, usually, the only recourse is to get a divorce being married to a woman who just does not believe that men should do such things to each other - and you'd better not... or else! "Most guys" would rather beg forgiveness than to ask permission since they can reasonably assume that they will never get permission. So many guys on the varying forums trying to find out how to get their wife involved with their bisexuality or asking how to ask her for permission and get it and a gazillion fantasies of having the wife egg him on to suck a dude's dick and in that threesome setting that a lot of women ain't trying to hear anything about.

Because it always boils down to this: If she's not going to provide him with sex, who's supposed to? The answer: No one is. Cheat and risk losing it all and, again, divorce is the preferred option and that gets kinda fucked up because you wind up throwing away what was a damned good relationship and all because we believe some shit that isn't the whole truth.

We - men - just complicate this more than it already is; simplicity is the key in becoming a successful bisexual and why in the world would you rather work harder and not smarter is beyond me. I don't have the problems guys complain about; I can walk out of my front door and run into a guy I can charm my way into his pants - and he's gonna let me know that I can just by the way he's looking at me. My lady gets it and never gives me shit about my sexuality because she knows that it has nothing to do with her - and I will jump her bones in a flat, skinny second. Looking for an FWB? I could do that and get one but the question is do I want to be bothered with it? What I also know is that you are never going to find a fuck buddy sitting on your ass and doing nothing to make that happy, aka, get off your ass and start having sex with guys until you find that FWB you've been whining and crying about not being able to find.

Because if I wanted/needed an FWB, that's what I'd do and if nothing else, I'm getting the dick I want and need. And I'm not afraid.

And when you are bi and getting older, these things should become clearer and more sensible: You cannot and will not ever get some dick by doing nothing. That's a bit of wisdom I learned... way before I got old.

 

I had my first experience with a man when I was 60. And it was beyond expectations. Not very frequently dating, but when the opportunity occurred I did take it. I love being old now and love to be with other friendly old men. Won't say no to a younger guy, but not seeking for them.

 

Good luck to you in the future; I am sure many older "straight" guys find that their first m/m experience little blows their mind (like, 'What the hell was I waiting for, all this time?")

Don't pass up any chances, if you can......life is far too short........

 

Better late than never, right?