best way to dread poll

Discussion in 'Dreadlocks' started by soaringeagle, Sep 7, 2008.

  1. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    oh ueaa
    natural teaches u so muchj more

    but seperating to anser that question
    as they foem and after they form and grow the hairs at the roots may become part of the wrong dreads criss crossing trying to eat eachother (congo) 2 dreads will try to become 1
    seperte them by pulling them in opposite directions breaking the connecting hairs..
    if u wait too long u may have to work your finger under the conecting hairs pullung up tro break them but there will come a point where they connect too tightly to seperate and literaky become fused as 1 dread..then its a congo and too late to seperate
     
  2. Omnipotent

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    ah, thanks
     
  3. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    this is so unexpected i really did not expoect backcombing and natural to be dead even like this i expected natural to be far out ahead
     
  4. roguette

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    Soaringeagle, I really have to ask you this question, and I hope you don't think I'm being rude. I just can't ignore this.

    Why did you ask people for their honest opinions if you were going to berate them, argue, and make it an issue of right or wrong for everybody? People are different, everyone's hair is different, climates and natural forces around the country, or the world are different. I greatly respect the fact that you've had natural dreads for so long, and how important they are to you. I find it fabulous that you feel so passionately about your hair, but others are able to feel the passion and connection without using your method.

    What works well for you won't work well for everybody, and what you think is right isn't always what everyone else thinks is right. And your personal experiences, and the however-many experiences of your friends, do not make up everyone else's experience. Some get great things out of back combing, and can still feel a connection to their dreads, and some get better meaning and comfort out of neglecting their hair and going 100% natural.

    And when you say play with your hair, when I palm roll and tip-rub I am playing with my hair. I don't do it for ours until my arms get sore, I don't feel obligated to do it, I find it fun and relaxing to play with them that way. *shrug*
     
  5. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    u werent rude
    i was just really surprised by the results
    especialy when taking into accont the pain and frustration factors
     
  6. roguette

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    But that's just it, it's not painful or frustrating for everyone who doesn't make their dreads naturally. Perhaps you could say that about using wax, since wax is adding a foreign, "permanent" element into your hair, but backcombing really isn't that comparable.

    Anyway, I'm just trying to say that although your way does indeed work, it's not the only way that does. And there are pros and cons to either choice, and sometimes one method works better for some particular people.
     
  7. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    i never backcombed but hear it described as 10 or so hours of agony
    then for 2 days there all proud but in no time start the my dreads are frustrating me what should i do about___ routine
    the answer almost always being nothig
    cause its all part f the proccess
    which shoud always be enjoyable


    u say backcombing is better for some who cant go natural
    but


    how many tried?


    ive heard moms with 3 kids describe backcombing as the most painfull ordeal of het life
     
  8. nakedtreehugger

    nakedtreehugger craaaaaazy

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    i backcombed, and like my results. at least i do now, after i did too much to them and then ripped them apart and left them alone.

    so i think the best method (for hair like mine) is backcomb and then leave it alone.

    for people with nappy/really curly/really thick hair, i think natural would work WAY better. but it would have taken for forever with mine, and i just didn't want to look that crazy during that time.

    if i were to start a second set someday, i might consider at least trying natural, to see how well it would do on its own, just cause i'm curious, but i'm not about to cut my babies off just to find out, lol!
     
  9. nakedtreehugger

    nakedtreehugger craaaaaazy

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    i look back on my 11 hours of backcombing as my first hours of bonding with my dreads. it was a test of my patience and determination to do this by myself, for myself. i did freak out for a while, because it looked nothing like what i thought it would. again, it was a test of my faith in my own desire to have dreadlocks. i made some mistakes along the way, as many of us have with our dreads. we've overmaintained, backcombed more than once, used icky products, and whatnot. but the thing is, we learn from our mistakes. and for some people, we have to learn those lessons on our own, not necessarily just from reading what others have said worked for them.

    SE, you know i love you dearly, but i think sometimes your insistance on natural neglect methods as being the best, and your frustration/annoyance with the freak out newbie threads is kind of offputting to the new dreadheads who are just looking for some advice and are really freaking out.

    not everyone is at the same spiritual place of patience and letting it flow as you seem to have been when you started your dreads. i know i sure as hell wasn't. but i've gotten ten times more patient, and i've learned to go with the flow through the process. i think the more welcoming and kind we can be to even the most freakout of the newbies, the more we can help others out on their spiritual journeys. cause we all know whether we intended it or not, our dreads become spiritual journeys of some sort.
     
  10. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    oh i just love all yas....and just want your journies to be as carefree painfree hasslefree and enjoyable as can be
     
  11. nakedtreehugger

    nakedtreehugger craaaaaazy

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    and i know that is at the heart of everything.... which is why i put up with ya... :D lolz.

    in my experience, being carefree painfree hasslefree and enjoyable is something that is pretty intense for most people. the way this society and culture is set up, anything that is such, is very VERY threatening to most people. not to mention undesireable, because something that easy must be a CATCH. so you put a little extra work, pain, and hassle into it, and you learn the lessons that help you become more carefree, hasslefree, enjoyable, and pain free. :rolleyes: such is the world we appear to live in.
     
  12. soaringeagle

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    ahhh naked i love u

    that was so..mindblowing...

    i always assumed all the effort ppl put in was just a leftover addiction to the routine of constant grooming

    it is sorta funny in a way how mamny people come in and are totaly coinfused by the concept of doing nothing resulting in dreads..its like they refuse to believe it can happen
    like a few must ask the same questioin 1o000 times.. what u mean just wash it and not brush and thats it?
    they just cant believe its that simple...
    like i think omnipotent musta asked that 30 or more times in 15 different threads before finaly believing its possible
     
  13. nakedtreehugger

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    i know. and i think it's an addiction to the constant grooming too. also, an addiction to thinking you must DO something the RIGHT way, and that includes actually DOING something. just not doing something doesn't seem like enough. plus there's the ultimate human addiction of "feeling special." like, well, some of the old hippy people (SE) say that we can make dreads by doing nothing. but my hair isn't like his. it wasn't born a hippy, i have to make it hippy hair. so i'm special, in that i can't just let it go. i'm saying this about myself, btw. well, not just... but you know. plus, i started mine before i knew i was a hippy, so i felt like my dreads should somehow be different than your average hippy who just doesn't brush their hair. or something. :rolleyes:

    there are so many perceptions and societal ideas that we all have going on with us that we don't even realize. something about having dreads and sticking with them for a long time (regardless of how they were started) helps you to release a lot of those cultural ideals that we don't even KNOW we're carrying around. it's so counterintuitive to the culture we live in that to make something look better you do less to it. :rolleyes: plus beauty is in the eye of the beholder. some like the perfectly straight rounded dreads with round tips and no strays. while others like lots of whispies and wierd kinks and crazy undreaded ends, and some like the in between look. it takes all kinds! :D
     
  14. soaringeagle

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    i guess i leaqrned alot when i grww my 1st set
    u dsee at that time like i said before all i knew boiut dreads was u stop brishing and thgey happen.....thsat was 1/2 a lifetime ago
    at the tme i was datin a chick that took 4 hours ti get ready to go 3 diooes down to the 7-11 to buy a soda.. to step outside the house was an ordeal 2 hiurs putting on makeup 2 more to do her hair..
    i alreasdy haf dreads wn=hen imet her ( treally doint remember how long they tooklk it seemed to me 1 day i asked some1 how to get em the next dsau i stopped combing a few dauys later i had dreads but doubt it really was that fast)
    watching her hour after hour gdettojng readuy y to just step outside i felt so damn happy to hafta do nothin morte then put on pants to be ready to go outr
    and the thing that really got me was...the more time she spoent making herself ready.. the less happyt she became wioth howshe looked.. to the point where shed literaly neverr alow anyone to see her without going through the 4 hours of work hiding her looks (her natural looks)

    i knew right there and then when i had my 1st set (awhicjh to be hionnest looked crazy since all i knew was dont brishj noone tiold me to rip to prevent congios.. and i had 2 horns and a pillow the wifth of the back ofg myt neck) zo even tho i looked a crazy mess i knew i never wanted to be a slave to havih toi jide my natural loss.... same went for mtyt greu.. my mom died her hair since she was 16 when she found her 1st grey haitrr from that time on her hair was never natural again 1 day of her life and still isnt to this dayu
    my beard started gouin grewu lil young too but when it did i loved the greu instead of wantin yo hide it

    my hair was alwaysthicj snfd had a mind of irs own so it only came natural to just let it do what it wanted and nit care so much how it came iut (wiuthin reason i did rip ewmsalot this time to prtrevent the gorns n piullow)
    but for me it realluy was easyu and a pure pleasuere to just play with em minflessly a couple weeks tyhen forget all about emj foir years..


    ofcousre spendin a month or 2 in the mountains hundreds of miles frpom the nesarest combor mirror made irr effortless
     
  15. nakedtreehugger

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    lol.. i have such a hard time seeing you dating someon who would wear tons of makeup and be that worried about looking "perfect" by covering up what they really look like. teeheehee... especially if you had "two horns and a pillow." lol, that had me laughing. :)

    but seriously, when you're not used to being part of the natural camp out in the woods for months at a time kind of life, the idea of doing NOTHING to your hair is pretty scary. i freaked out at the thought that i wasn't going to wash my hair every day. it was rediculous. i got over it pretty quick when i realized just how nice it is to get out of bed, throw on clothes, and go to work. there were times when i would get to work and still have sleep wrinkles on my face, lol! when i realized i could do that, it was like, no turning back for me ever. :D but it takes a while to break the addiction of worrying what other people think of the real you. the one without makeup and hairdos and all that business. so i get it. there has to be transition for most people i think.
     
  16. soaringeagle

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    tea u get it
    well thsat chick was a mistsake she was my sis's freind when my sis and her ran away togrether they moved in with me
    sjhe showed upo with a shopping cart with 3 garbage bags full of makeup
    i guess a drunken night of horniness led to a mistwake and a 1 year hellish relationship to this dayt im still in debt from her makeupo habbits..lol
    oh after that drunkin mistake i havent toiched alcahil since..lol

    that shiot makes u do slitta dumb thinfgs

    maybe i should blame it akll on my sis for bringing her...llo
     
  17. Omnipotent

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    lol that's a funny story
    why do you mispell so many things though
     
  18. soaringeagle

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    i type a ton very fsast concidering iu type 1 fingered im a quadripleginc so 1 fingereds thre only optiuojn my keyboard from typing dso much has almost all the letters worn completely blankgq p m k j v f x z q are the only ones complere part of c and g exist too
    ontop of that..its a wireless that screwes up s ton.. somertimes i have toi retypoe each wird 10 tymes so it doiusnt look like this (ittttt dn lk l thssssss)
    ontop of that..severe insomnnia injm usualy so tired my brain feels liquified and the keys seem to move around as i try to type
    so yea alotta reasons..lol
    the insdomniea/sleep deprivatuioin is probky the worse the more tired i become ther harder it is tyo type snd all week been up till 8 or 9 am only to get up at 10

    when i go out in the woods i sleep amaziong thpugh and can catch up and function
     
  19. Omnipotent

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    so go sleep in teh woods for the rest of your life o_O
    abandon the need for society and technology
    lol jk man
     
  20. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    id love to seriusly


    hmmmm wonder who picked the anyt methoid with wax.. is there really some1 here who believes that or has reporesentative from 1 of those companies snuck in hrere?
     

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