I so far like 2cb the best, but my limited experiences with 25i- & 25c-nbome have me convinced that 25x-nbome drugs are far superior to their 2cx counterparts. Basically, nbome's isolate, amplify, & refine particular properties of the 2cx's, this is to aid the process of mapping out the brain's highly complex & scarcely understood (litetally) MILLIONS of pathways, synapses, & which neurotransmitters fit where, how, & why. From a researcher's perspective, a drug active in the tens of thousandths of a gram that selectively & rather potently acts upon certain groups of receptors only is all three highly economical, easier to study for the future of all medicine, but mostly that of psychiatric medicine & even such controversial & heavily debated topics like (beginnining the labyrinthian process of) understanding the brain's mechanisms for things beyond medicine such as technology, psychotherapy, linguistics, learning disabilities, neurological disorders like autism o narcolepsy, genetics, & archeology...or even history, because by understanding these mysterious pathways & your brain's corresponding chemicals, how individuals develop & have done so over decades to millennia & how societies develop in the same light for instance can, does, & with this research will go on to be done so better all through this research & history will go on to be understood as well as psychiatry, psychology, & sociology because of this work, in part because of the rich, highly intricate nature of the unique, dynamic changes observable in research participants, & also in part due to the chain reactions brought on by these psychedelic drugs that're active between two hutndred micrograms to no more than four milligrams. Well, the same shit that makes these drugs so frakkin fascinating to researchers, doctors, psychoanalysts, sociologists, historians, pharmacologists, chemists, developers, & scientists & specialists of all kinds is what makes the drugs of the nbome class (primarily) as well as, in smaller elitist groups, nboh & other highly experimental, obscure research class drugs so sought after by heschers, artists, Bohemians, & pranksters & spiritualists of Leary's & Ginsberg's, school of thought that we are all our own gods and goddesses, that god is the ground we walk upon, followers one & all of the ideas that religion--specifically a keen interest in Eastern philosophy (for me its Tibetan Buddhism , Taoism, Zoroastrianism, & to a lesser extent, Confucionism & Hindi) & the uncanny resemblances of psychedelic experiences to thoughts thought & realizations realized while tripping & in the aftermath of tripping to the teachings of these holistic spiritual vantage points, & even to the views of Gnostics, those taught in the Torah, & of aboriginal medicine men, shaman, & witches throughout history, carried forth today by Wiccans. These drugs, like 25c- & 25i-nbome from an ontological look at their psychodynamics produce no discernable ill effects at dosages ranging say from 0.5mg to 5mg, they appear to possess all & *ONLY* those effects of their 2c-x predecessors: quite honestly not a single ill effect so common with 2c-x drugs, & this leaves one with greater opportunity to trance out to Nirvana, past life regression, astral projection, telepathic communication, pondering such things as your perfect fouble, doing & thinking exactly what you are, as you are in his or her alternate reality, perhaps even offering each of you a chance to greet yourself in the glimpse of an eye, also allowing greater insight to infinity, multi-dimensionality, the multiverse, & subatomic vibrations, the Great Mind & the collective subconscious, glimpses of the disembodied afterlife where there is all & it is One & sometimes further on to the next life, each giving unique insight into deja vu, the energy that bonds all life, the sentience in Mother Earth down to each mountain, tree, lake, fish, frog, cricket, blade of grass, & of course, you & me--but that all is alive & brains aren't necessary to think or feel, an insight that frequently gives rise to varying degrees of vegetarianism & environmentalism, & of course social & political & economic critique come with psychedelic territory; this class of drugs however unlike LSD or mescaline, since they target such specific areas also seem to hone in on very specific modes of thought, so for a few last examples, intensifies ones recall & analysis of our alternate dreamlives, the ability to communicate with extraterrestrials, orour capacity for premonition or cosmic unity & bliss. Somehow I see mescaline-nbome, jimscaline-nbome, or allyescaline-nbome (& related compounds) as the pinnacles thus far of these beautiful creations. Perhaps even doc-nbome or dom-nbome would rank amongst the best. It's a shame mdma & mda can't be molded I'm this fashion, but then perhaps they're both perfect as they are...I wonder if a 2-fa-nbome, 4-fa-nbome, 5-apb-nbome, or 6-apb-nbome are ppssible? I also feel as though certain of the synthetic simple tryptamines such as met, pipt, or dpt profoundly delve deep into the soul, then some of the fourth & fifth substituted methoxylated, fourth substituted acetoxylated or hydroxylated tryptamines do these marvelous things as well, such as 5-meo-dipt, 4-meo-mipt, 4-aco-det, or 4-ho-mpt. I can only imagine others like second substituted methoxylated tryptamines do as well, such as 2-meo-dmt. The future holds great & powerful wonder as psychedelics slowly are integrated into the lives of many, as antiquated & corrupt systems such as Islam, Republics, Christianity, Totalitariamnism, Racism, Fascism, Dictatorships, Communism, Fundamentalism, National Socialism, Objectivism, & the base ingredients: greed, fear, & hate, in time with a little psychedelic help, will wither & die. BETTER LIVING THROUGH CHEMISTRY.
You're a rare one for having 2cp be your favorite, I like it but it doesn't have as strong visuals as I'd like. Cosmoknot your posts are always as long as shit and its one fat-fuck block of text too haha. And I don't really know wtf your talking about with all the religions and all the mumbo jumbo you spouted out, but yes, 25x compounds are very interesting. not really sure what you mean about them having all the something or other that the 2cx has or whatever you said. Also, 4-fa-nbome might not even be active or have any kind of effects that you would want if it is. Its really hard to say with shit like that, but it would be interesting to find out.
Is LSD synthetic enough for this thread you reckon? :daisy: What about synthetically made DMT then? that is clearly the best as DMT is the best! :2thumbsup:
be carefull with this one i had nasty heart palpitations that were like electric shocks at about 15 mg. and i have a healthy heart. 5-meo series generally have bad body load from what i hear.. something about that 5 sub.
Interesting, I haven't dosed as high 15 mgs I don't think but I have not had the slightest signs of heart palpitations with 5 meo mipt in the 6-12 mgs range. I have gotten some body temperature fluctuations on it but I find it one of the cleanest Reserach Chemicals there is along with 2cb.