Best form of government?

They like Chris for more than because hes a Marxist.

 

I like you. I don't think you're a lost cause.

Uh anyway...If you've read a lot of my posts on here you'll find i am cynical, hardened and apathetic now. Sign of the times sadly.

Anyway, folks someone's been reading about the spanish civil war and has changed his view quite substantially lately Lets just say, i'm going to be much nicer from now on

 

wow... i leave this thread for a wee bit and theres a discussion about me :H



Right


I dont Ghandi as with a little force, he could have saved many lives. A little wrong for a lot of right.


I dotn like the Dalai Lama as he was put in power as a theocrat, he kicked all the chinese out of tibet and kept slaves.


I think these are two rational enough points.

 

u have my gratitude, my friend
u've read the history
the government of China abolished slavery in Tibet in 1950s, and some idiots call it invasion

 

China has their workforce in conditions close to slavery anyway though...

I do not support the Chinese invasion, or the maoist government, but i dont support what the dalai lama was doing either.

 

You idiot, thats all i have to say, seeing as you won't back up your ghandi point with any evidence. I'd like you to explain how ghandi could have saved lives against the best armed, largest and most powerful empire on earth without being physically blameless? (ie non violent)

 

training people in geurilla warfare perhaps. there are many strategies to counter big armies.

 

They'd just label Ghandi a terrorist, capture him, and torture him.

 

Democracy with civic republicanism intertwined in government policy is the best form of government.

 

Exactly. And they'd have killed off half his followers. And the rest of the world wouldn't care because they would have been labelled "rioters" and "terrorists". Thats what ghandi accomplished, he got the whole world behind him and Britain had no choice but to submit

 

the best form of government is one that is neither based upon nor defined by ANY form of idiology. one who'se very agenda is set by plebiscite and anyone who wishes to may vote on issues and no one has to vote on personalities, and one who'se whole justification for existence is 'welfare' and environmentaly respectful infrastructure.

it is also one in which the greatest power resides localy, and broader institutions serve only as a check on local excessess.

it goes without saying, no such form currently governs any soverign nation on planet earth and it is unlikely that any ever have. it is not unlikely at all that at some future point our very survival as a species may depend on some such approach.

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Who the hell is voting for communism? Tienamen Square? Wave goodbye to your freedom! Just an opinion, no offense meant. Anyway, to the question, whatever force was governing the mini-nation called Woodstock in 1969, that should govern the world, or at least our hearts.

 

Well, what would you call that force? As far as my opinion goes, and please feel free to debate me because I'm not really too sure, nor am I trying to spread propaganda, but the force governing woodstock was Anarchy, for the crowd that is.
Up on stage was a different matter of course...

 

communism is an economic thing... authoritariansim is not part of communism

 

you mean in the sense that communism is a hypothetical system, so it is whatever anyone wants it to be? E.g. Is there racism under communism? No, under communism everything is great. Is there pollution under communism? No, under communism everything is great. Is there sexism and homophobia under communism? No, under communism everything is great. Is there murder and tyranny under communism, like there has been whenever communists try to establish a communist state in reality? No, under communism everything is great, there's just been a few unfortunate mix-ups.

 

Just in case you return from your hipforums exile, what exactly do you get out of ridiculing the fuck out of any person's beliefs differing to yours in favour of a system that you pre-suppose to be fair?

I'm not entirely against capitalism, I'm against those in power who make little or NO effort to curb the negative effects of unchecked economic growth, but of course any complaint I raise would be not reasonable, but "stupid" and "left wing". I thought you didn't believe in utopias.

Sorry thats not entirely relevant but i'm responding to a number or your posts in one.

 

There's no best form of government. You people can only talk the talk. It's disgusting. Let's separate one of your tiny islands and see what you people want. Talk or dignity? Fuck!

I'm a little drunk, so you can delete this post if you dislike it. LOL.

 

"Tienamen Square?"

The Chinese authoritarian capitalist government killed some protestors who were left wing, maybe communists, in Tienamen Square that were protesting what they were doing (sp?), if I remember correctly. Communism is getting stronger in China with the growing inequalities. The Chinese "Communist Party" is a corrupt capitalist party that calls itself the Communist Party, and believe they are communist is self defeating.

 

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I've edited this post coz I'm without prejudices.

 

GO TO THE LIBRARY AND SEE WHAT REAGAN DID WHEN HE WAS THE GOVERNOR.

Yeah. Anti-government movement in other countries is DEMOCRACY.

Fuck democracy. Talk to me when you have your Hawaii separated.