Best form of government?

sorry i dont get you. Is the system mentioned where its ran by union chairs WHILST they're still a worker deleonism or is it once they have become full time chairs so to speak. Im still lost as to how you avoid this happening. Id love it if someone could explain how that wouldnt happen as i really like how much power the workers as a unit would have.

 

What we have now is a form of "economic anarchy".

I'd be all over anarchy if we lived in a Utopian society in which everyone had a conscience and no one would abuse the freedom. Unfortunately, it would just end up with bubbas with guns stealing everything from everyone else, kinda like the big Corporations are doing to us economically. I'll choose having cops around to protect me and my personal property any day, though it'd be nice if those dudes could lighten up on the steroids...

 

cops could still quite easily exist in anarchy. it'd just be another job, but it would not have a gorernment to use it as their tool.

 

I voted for a republic.




True democracy is terrifying. Electing leaders to represt the people is a much better idea... they not only (hopefully) possess the time and skills that the people may not have, but they can represent the majority while still protecting the minority.

 

They only thing they represent is in fact the minority elite corporate interests which finance their perpetual attempts to get reelected. Dont be so naive as to think they give a whiff of concern for the made for television soundbites about "the general electorate".

That is what is truly terrifying.

 

All of the forms of government mentioned above have their good and bad points. Having a good government, to me, is inextricably tied to its promotion of the genetic well-being of society.

For example, the Spanish Inquisition (monarchy) killed off many of the best minds of the Iberian peninsula, thus cutting short the Spanish Golden Age. The Communists and Nazis also killed off or chased away many of their best genetic elements: the Nazis by driving away the Jews and attacking leftist intellectuals, and the Communists by killing the productive economic and intellectual classes, especially in Russia.

Democracy tends to promote decadence because the voice of the majority is not always as sound as the voice of the best elements of society. The values of society are gradually brought to the level of the average man. Furthermore, it fosters a distinct form of political corruption because the politicians know the masses are more easily swayed by political phrases and promises to allay their greed.

In the U.S. we have a Republican government (that is, a representative democracy). My inclination is to vote for this type of government, but seeing how corrupt the U.S. is, I must admit this form of government has some real-world failings that can't be ignored.

So, my conclusion is no government, or something akin to anarchy. I better start reading some of Bakunin's writings...

 

Why have some lame assed dude who you probably have only met a few times represent you when a systemexists when soviets make desicions, in which everyone can join?

 

I'm for democracy..

communism is the worst all the way..

 

if thats an anti-left thing, surely you'd think anarchy would be worse? And itw surely not as bad as monarchy rule or oligarchy.

 

it ain't about left or right thing.. it's all about the fact, that communists are swines!

 

Communists or Stalinists, as there is a big fucking difference. Im a socialist/communist, (hovering between the two), does that make me a swine? When i say communism btw, thats marxism, not maoism or stalinism or any of that bullshit.

 

I don't care if your "hero" is Stalin, Lenin, Marx or Mao Ce-tung.. I don't care.. to me - every communist = swine!

and I'll tell you why.. look..
they did nothing to ME, but those fuckers did a lot to my family.. my grand grand father was arrested, my grand father was arrested.. just because they didn't agree with that fuckin' communist regime.. My daddy couldn't go study university, because my grandpa and grand grand father were AGAINST communists.. my aunt couldn't study university.. the family of my dad was moved to 200km far village just because they had much large farm, so communist stole them that farm and simply moved them to another village, where they knew nobody and had nothing - only one old house, everybody one bed and one wardrobe for 2 people..

After this all, do you think I have no reason to hate communists..?

 

You can't have communism without democracy, Jana.

*oink oink*

*Little piggie wants to smell your panties. Little piggie don't like capitalism oink oink*

Hmm, why?

Because they were in a bar fight? Did they steal a car? Did he molest your grand ma? Were they part of the bay of pigs invasion?

You fail to think that people can actually get arrested in a socialist nation, because they are responsible for being criminals, robbing people, stealing etc.

Not everyone in jail in a socialist society does have to be a politcal prisoner. Grow up.

So your granny didn't let your daddy go to the university because it was a... communist university? How rude of your grandpa.

That's pretty stupid. Everyone had, and have, the ability to study in Cuba. For free. Before the revolution, over 23 percent of the population were illiterate. During the literacy campaign, illiteracy was irradicated.


But hey, I assume you live in Florida, miami, or something like that, and now you are pissed because your family don't have the opportunity to exploit people. When did your family leave, Jana?

 

The kid has mommy looking after him, so it's no surprise he would like the state to do so as well. His teachers probably think it's "cute" when he tells of his Marxist beliefs.

 

Yeah, those teachers, lawyers, scholars, doctors, etc. chased away were just so "oppressive" in Cuba.

That's an accurate picture of Miami: a haven of oppressors, although today with your friendly variegated mix from all parts of Latin America.

 

Your comments just show the communist love for humanity.

With comments like these, I am sure glad the blackshirts and brownshirts beat the brains out of your skulls in the '20s and '30s.

You thugs couldn't even win at your own game.

 

what the fuck do you think about yourself!!!??? How can you be so fuckin' stupid!!!???

Look..

"You can't have communism without democracy, Jana." - so here you see, democracy is more than communism.. without communism, there can be democracy.

"*oink oink*" - no comment

"
*Little piggie wants to smell your panties. Little piggie don't like capitalism oink oink*" I don't care..

"Hmm, why?

Because they were in a bar fight? Did they steal a car? Did he molest your grand ma? Were they part of the bay of pigs invasion?

You fail to think that people can actually get arrested in a socialist nation, because they are responsible for being criminals, robbing people, stealing etc.

Not everyone in jail in a socialist society does have to be a politcal prisoner. Grow up." - my grand grand father and my grandfather were arrested, because communists wanted them to give them, meaning to communists, some cereals, stock.. simply their possession and crop - they were farmers.. and they didn't want to give their own possession to those swines so they were arrested.. Don't tell me like "grow up" - you have no clue what it was.

"So your granny didn't let your daddy go to the university because it was a... communist university? How rude of your grandpa." - what the hell...?!? He couldn't go the the uni because he was from an "anti-communist family" - because his father, my grandpa, was an enemy of regime..!!!

"That's pretty stupid. Everyone had, and have, the ability to study in Cuba. For free. Before the revolution, over 23 percent of the population were illiterate. During the literacy campaign, illiteracy was irradicated." - Maybe in Cuba, but it wasn't so in Czechoslovakia.

"But hey, I assume you live in Florida, miami, or something like that, and now you are pissed because your family don't have the opportunity to exploit people. When did your family leave, Jana?" - To me, you are really dumb.

 

His knowledge about Cuba seems to be limited by what he has read from a Web site or two. Don't bet on it.

 

I believe nothing to a person, who has a nickname "communism".

 

how the hell do you know it??? Just tell me, why do those people from Cuba demonstrate??? Hm??? Have you ever been there?! Or do you know how "great it is there" just from internet?! Coz if only from i-net... ahahaha, don't make me laugh! It doesn't have to be always true..

I can't believe that somebody can be WITH those swines as communists are!!