Best form of government?

Discussion in 'Political Polls' started by Namaste, Jun 2, 2005.

  1. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

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    i didnt vote for communism because it isnt a form of government.
    i voted for anarchy.
    winning a poll on hf has nothing to do with what truth is, though.
     
  2. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    So did I.
     
  3. Namaste

    Namaste Member

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    Yes it is
     
  4. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

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    No, it isn't.
    According to who? Stalin? Communism is an economic philosophy and only an economic philosophy.
     
  5. Communism

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    Neither communism, nor anarchy are forms of government.

    Anarchism and communism is (contrary to poular belief) the same social system. In an anarchist or a communist society, there will be no government. Thus no "form of government".





    Socialism is also a social system. A socialist society can be a direct democracy, a representative democracy, a republic etc.


    Capitalism, socialism, communism and anarchism are social systems.

    They're not political systems in itself.


    True, it's not a form of goverment.


    Marxism is an ideology. Communism is not a philosophy. It's a system, just like capitalism, socialism, feudalism, etc.
     
  6. Namaste

    Namaste Member

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    What do you think a form of government is? Along with a few other things, it is an economic philosophy.
     
  7. Communism

    Communism Member

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    How can a spesific society without a government, be a "form of government"?
     
  8. Random Andy

    Random Andy Member

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    Or calling people to their computers to vote on-line. We have the communications technology to make this viable.
     
  9. prism

    prism :o

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    We also have hackers to fuck it up. :rolleyes:
     
  10. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

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    a form of government is how you rule... if you have one ruler, or a democracy... or a republic... but communism doesnt dictate how to rule the government, it is only the economic principles of it... thats why its not a form of government.
     
  11. Motion

    Motion Senior Member

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    I think the best system of gov't generally speaking would be a democratic one that takes into account the ethnic/cultural makeup of the country and uses influences from these cultures to shape their particular democracy.
     
  12. Motion

    Motion Senior Member

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    Here's some interesting info on the traditional governing system of the Igbo people of south-eastern Nigeria:



    Case-Study of Igbo Society

    Another, and perhaps more representative, example of decentralized society in Africa are the Igbo speaking peoples. The Igbo speaking people live in the south eastern part of contemporary Nigeria. The Igbo are neighbors of the highly politically centralized Yoruba, but their political system is much different. Instead of centralized kingdoms headed by powerful kings, chiefs, and their advisors, the Igbo had no centralized system of governance. Rather they lived in politically autonomous villages. That is, each village was politically separate and was not politically connected to neighboring villages. Within the villages there was not a system of hereditary chiefs. Village decisions were made by a headman and a council of elders that selected the headman.

    The absence of a centralized system of government did not mean that there was no system or institutions of governance among the Igbo speaking peoples. In addition to village based council of elders, there were religious organizations, structures of kinship ties-- lineage groups, and secret societies, that provided regulations which governed people's lives. These organizations guaranteed that no one group or institutions gained too much power--a system of checks and balances!

    The absence of centralized government did not hinder the economic, social and economic development of the Igbo peoples. Indeed, just as their Yoruba neighbors, the Igbo speaking peoples developed a specialized and diversified economy based on agriculture, textiles, and trade.

    http://ex.matrix.msu.edu/africa/curriculum/lm10/acttwo.html
     
  13. GraffitiSoul

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    mine is winning seing how i voted for democracy, democratic socialism isnt communism
     
  14. GraffitiSoul

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    Mui is rite about government, communism is economic principle, not government style, but i think the creator knew this hence communism is in italics, im just pissed there arent more options
     
  15. GraffitiSoul

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    hah u think letting people keep more of their money helps the economy, reganomics failed, man, in ur system there would be no jobs theyd all be outsourced, what motivation would u have to keep ur american business in america. but thats teh prollem with reganomics, when of course by they i mean rich people the only ones who wouyld benefit from ur flat tax, keep their money they dont buy fords and phillips, they buy mercedes convertables, gucci bags, samsung flat screens, toshiba laptops, and imported diamonds, furthermore aiding in the destruction of our economy...

    hmmm...lets be logical... we both think the poor and handicap arent being adequately cared for, so does it make more sense to abolish the welfare system leaving them with nothing other than the potential to make things better?or to raise taxes on teh rich and especially the super rich, and provide these people with a cushion incase their attempt at self betterment fails, yes i agree our current system (for welfare, and the handicap) sucks, but thats becuse its in the hands of republicans, look at a country other than america, like finland theyve been socialist a while, among smallest rich poor gaps in teh world, highest standard of living in the world, subsidy can bring the poor out of poverty becuause its not that the poor are lazy, its just they have shitty jobs that pay nothing, if they are fortunate enough to live in an area where all teh former jobs arent yet outsourced.
     
  16. Communism

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    Well, the political system in a communist society is direct democracy. But it's true, yeah, communism in itself is not a form of government.
     
  17. _chris_

    _chris_ Marxist

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    I dont like the differentiating between democracy and communism. I believ in both, but i voted communism, as democracy can quite easily be present within communism. In a bourgoirse controlled country, i believe a proletarian revolution to be necessary. Then a workers democracy should be set up. This is in fact, more democratic than the bourgoirse crap we're taught to accept.
     
  18. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    Satanocracy.
     
  19. Dude

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    You forgot making drugs illegal :D(A JOKE)
     
  20. GraffitiSoul

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    communism can be a good idea when the democratically elected socialist government isnt accepted,like say if the right wing regime refuses to allow ur socialist government to take form (ie. columbia, veneuzuela(for a while), chile, ecuador) or if ur fortunate enough to have a great neighbor like US who always knows whats in ur best interest, and refuses to accept that legitimate government,then violent revolution doesnt sound liek such a bad idea... to quote terry nicholes or batman or something, pen is mightier than the sword, but always have a sword handy for when the pen fails...
    that quotes sounds pretty silly and normally i wouldnt quote either of them but it seems appropriate...
     

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