BBc to become more right wing and white oriented

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  1. McLeodGanja

    McLeodGanja Banned

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  2. lithium

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    You can find all the reporting statistics from police national crime statistics and the British Crime Survey upon which that claim is based in a very detailed report here ... you may well find issues with their methodology but saying "new labour therefore not true" is tantamount to ad hominem...
     
  3. McLeodGanja

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    Am I not allowed to draw upon the many many examples of untrustworthiness and ineptitude of the current government and suggest that perhaps they may have "buttered up" the stats to make them look good?
     
  4. L.A.Matthews

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    You mean your press and media is owned by the government?! :eek:
     
  5. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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  6. lithium

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    If you can find evidence to support your claim by reference to the reporting methodologies of police statistics and the BCS then the point may be worthwhile otherwise it's simply an ungrounded and somewhat facile slur.

    Rather off the issue anyway, a decline of 41% or an increase of 41% is unimportant in the wider scheme, the prevalence of violence is currently falling but it will rise and peak again in the future, criminality stays roughly constant within a range of parameters as a proprtion of population. To suggest that we live in a more brutal and violent society now than ever before is to show a fundamental lack of awareness of history, if anything we are probably safer and less likely to encounter violent criminality now than ever, and certain kinds of behaviour are less acceptable now than ever...
     
  7. lithium

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    I think the issue of crime is as much one of perception as the issue of poverty. It is only possible to believe the untruth that "more children are living in poverty than ever before" because our awareness (indeed definition) of the problem has adapted and we are now more open to and concerned about the plight of those dispossessed and disenfranchised in our society. Similarly it's only possible to believe that we are more violent and thuggish than ever before because we are more aware of the problem, it is less acceptable than ever before, more often reported, and we are proactively doing more about it than ever before...
     
  8. L.A.Matthews

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    Sorry, I was just wondering what made you think the BBC was owned by the government? Are most of your US channels owned by the state then?
     
  9. Peace-Phoenix

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    The BBC is owned by the state, though the government is not responsible for its content. It's a public service broadcaster....
     
  10. L.A.Matthews

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    Oh yeah, sorry. But aren't American broadcasters more supporting of the government in general though?
     
  11. Peace-Phoenix

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    I think it's fair to say that, with noteable exceptions, there's a stronger right-wing bias in much of the American media. Unfortunately with America's whole political centre being right of ours, that often translates to a media more supportive or at least less critical of government, particularly in war reporting - reinforcing a sense of patriotism that's less evident in our broadcast media, though rife in the tabloids....
     
  12. Bonkai

    Bonkai Later guys

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    Think im in love.
     
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  14. McLeodGanja

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    Damn I missed that play about the white girl last night, anyone see it?
     
  15. L.A.Matthews

    L.A.Matthews Senior Member

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    Was it on BBC? Try BBC iPlayer.
     
  16. Roffa

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    apparently the "white girl" play's on tonight, I just heard Billy Bragg plugging it on Radio 4.

    I don't really care as I don't have a TV.
     
  17. McLeodGanja

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    Yeah you right it on half hour!
     
  18. McLeodGanja

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    That was alright i thought, can't say that was a platform for spurting fascist ideals at all. I bet all the BNP supporters watched that expecting something to support their racist bullshit heh.

    iPLayer no workie outside United Kindgom. :mad:
     
  19. McLeodGanja

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    Check out the discussion forum on the bbc site for this, it's trippy as fuck! called spectrum, it's nice music and visuals. http://www.bbc.co.uk/white/
     
  20. lithium

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    That's the thing, I could never see a season of programmes on BBC2 as likely to be the kind of tabloid fare it's been made out to be here. A sensitive drama about a white girl who turns to Islam is not something that's going to appeal to BNP supporters, Sun readers or other ignorant bigots. That's partly why I'm prepared to give the somewhat questionable promo trailer a wide berth. There's nothing wrong with being offensive if the intention is to make people think things through from a new perspective, and I think fundamentally that's what this season is trying to do even if I don't agree with the shock tactics of the racist trailer - which seems a bit more of a Channel 4 style ploy, and not exactly in keeping with the expectations of a BBC2 audience.
     
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