Bad trips from bud?

It's not like I've never heard of it. I've also heard of the kid that everyone knows who thought he was a glass of orange juice and had to go to the looney bin cause of acid. I've heard so much bullshit about drugs from all kinds of people, I don't listen to what I hear. I do things for myself, and research through reputable sources. Even when I read data from reputable sources, I use my reasoning to determine whether or not the data is flawed in any way. Like how peacelovebarefeet said about the above statement "how long had they been smoking, how much acid have they done, etc."

It's tough for me to associate tripping with smoking weed because I've pushed my limits with both psychedelics and marijuana to heights that not everyone even wants to go to, or has the "oppurtunity"/means to get that blown. By 'tops' I assume your father was just smoking a potent Sativa. Sativa's effects lean more towards 'psychedelic' you could say than the 'heavy' stony effects of Indica, but still won't make you trip.

To put it in perspective, I'll smoke at least four blunts when I leave work tonight. I've already smoked two today, and that's a cut down because my car was seized, so I have less oppurtunity to go take a blaze break during my workday. One or two of the blunts tonight will be headies, I know one will be of a very potent strain, the other if I do will be of some hazy strain. Other than that, regular nugs only. After all that, hell If I smoke ten blunts in a night, the effects are STILL not even close to one hit of acid. Go to the shroomery and look at the "level 5" experiences off of half an eighth. People exaggerate. I'm not saying anyone's 'lying' here, because I used to believe that you could 'trip' off of weed, til I got into tripping. Take a few hits of alright street acid. Compare that to the effects of non-stop smoking. If you feel the same smoking trees as you do when dropped then I feel bad for you, because you must be pretty sensitive to marijuana...

Like I said, most everything I read that were accounts of 'bad trips' when high, were just anxiety.

 

I've never done acid. I have done shrooms although it was only a gram cause it's really hard to get around here and one gram cost me $30 as it was. I didn't hallucinate off it but was a very happy little girl off of only 3 beers and a joint. I have, however, done dextromethorphan hydrobromide (98.2% dex) and can tell you that I did trip (robotripping). I'm told it is very different then an acid trip.. I've seen african choirs singing on the lawn, dancing pinapples and flying dragons as well as my vision distorting like one of those little games where there is one square missing and you have to move em around to make a picture. I have thought I was in a cartoon and tried to catch non-exsistant butterflies.

I think there might have been certain strains that were around in the 50's and 60's that are no longer around. My dad did a lot of drugs in his time and if he said he hallucinated and tripped out on weed then I believe him. It's not like I'm getting second hand information from a practical stranger. He says that weed now isn't nearly as potent as it used to be, even the better strains like the blueberry and different dros that are popular and high praised strains around here don't touch the stuff he used to smoke.. He says you can't even compare them and reasoned that drug busts has probably made certain more potent strains become rare and in some cases extinct.

I've only ever had closed eye hallucinations on weed or heard something that was never really said. I wouldn't call that a trip but at the same time, it's not just being stoned anymore. I don't know what I would call it.. all trips on different drugs are slightly different. Doesn't mean it isn't a trip though.

I think the deffinition of tripping would be in seeing vivid open eye hallucinations and nothing short of that. Therefore paranoia and anxiety would not be tripping.

 

I just remembered. My brother hallucinates whenever he smokes weed and can't handle it. I remember him outside at 6am yelling that he was God after a night of drinking and taking 3 hits off a joint. The scary thing wasn't what he was yelling, but that he believed it. He talked about other things in which I can't quite remember. He is also borderline skitzophrenic so that might explain that. Everyones different so I guess certain bodily chemical differences could alter the affect a drug normally has into something else. I don't think it's as common as people let on but I do believe certain situations can cause it to happen. As for the other stories, it was probably laced if they truely hallucinated.

 

Yep, just like when I was seeing worms in the sky.

 

3 hits off a joint wouldnt even really make you high. in your brother's case, he was probably drunk....

 

In my brothers case, it was the weed. He drinks like a fish and wasn't that drunk. He has skitzophrenia which changes all the rules. Weed is not good for people who have skitzophrenia. He doesn't have the paranoia because he's not a paranoid skitzo but it still fucks with him more then people without. He already has mild (hearing) hallucinations but when he smokes they are at least 10 times worse.

And 3 hits off a joint makes my mom high as fuck. She smokes all of once or twice a year. 3 hits wouldn't make someone who smokes on a fairly regular basis high, but if you rarely smoke, it probably would.

When I first started smoking weed, two hits off a pipe would get me blazed and I know that shit was just commercial weed.

 

I rarely smoke/smoke off and on. I go for weeks and even months at times without smoking but when I do all need is 2 to 3 hits off to get ripped off my ass.

 

I just watched Aphex Twin last night after smoking a bowl and it deffinately freaked me out, I almost couldn't watch parts of it. All I could think of were those flash commercials that were started up in Japan a couple of years ago; kinda felt like I was feading negative information into my subconsious, realizing it was going in but not knowing exactly what it was, I know is was bad though.

 

I've freaked out from smoking oil before. I had one toke and I couldn't breathe and my thoughts we ALL over the map. I was fine in the end. It probably had some kind of shite laced in it to make it cheaper. GROSS.
I think that when people have "Bad trips" on pot it's usually because of the situation they are in, and if they are used to smoking pot.

 

ive had a few. once because it reacted badly with my meds..a few times because i was getting panic attacks (which i have a problem with on a reg basis) and once because i got really claustorphobic...

all resulted in me retching. i have a really sensitive stomach

 

I've mildly tripped out on the hash once on holiday in india. This has never happened on european bud. (And remember that the bud we get in europe is far faaaaar superior to anything in america!) Cannabis in India is almost a different drug.

Another thing I had in india which tripped me a little was the lassi. It's a nasty milkshake with a kind of hash derivative called Bhang. I got closed eye visuals for a couple hours in between throwing it up. Bhang has no more than cannabis in it apparently.

 

IDK about that, that might have been true a long time ago, but with so many advances in growing, people here can grow the same strains under the same conditions in their houses.

 

I'd say your both incorrect. Whilst the USA was smoking quality Bud in the 60s-70s Europe was smoking Hash. Bud was a far better hit and the only way to get it in the UK was if you were connected with the Jamaican/Afro/black scene.

No one can justify bud being better in one country than another. Indoors it's an artificial enviroment so I can't see how that would make a difference to the finished product? How would a seed bred in Holland know it's being grown in Oregon for instance? Also, how would a plant grown in another ciontinent indoors know to produce less THC as a stand to be re-patriated?
I hope that's indoors sorted!!

As for outdoors. Lets just look at European weather compared to the States. I'm in the UK and I've travelled to California and Nevada many times and I'll tell you this, if I was given a thousand seeds and asked to produce the best bud I could in a natural enviroment, I'd get on that plane and under them clear blue skies.

With modern technology you can grow MJ indoors on the north pole and get the same results as indoors in the tropics.

I don't know why I bothered answering this thread, but it's best clear that MJ doesn't have feelings towards it's birthplace............ leave that to frogs.