Attention Parents Of Teens!!!!

no, what i'm saying is that you should have used the word iterate, which means to say again, rather than reiterate, which means to say again again. you have to iterate before you can reiterate.

 

Well, I read up until pg 9

Anyway, a responsible way to tell your kids about it would be to explain it to them and then say,

"Look, if you're gonna be a crazy teenager, do it responsibly." or something along those lines

And my mom also told me, "If you're gonna fuck around, do it in this order, have sex, smoke pot, but try to stay away from alcohol."

And I listen

 

you're terribly in denial. as well as completely ignorant of my history, apparently.

 

little knowledge of the substance? lol. wow. it's experience with the substance that gives me my views.

 

idiot. i've smoked enough to know exactly what the effects are. i've also been the sober one around to drive while other's got completely stoned to know what the effects are. i've also been ripped off my a little sister willing to steal from me just to buy more to help her excape her problems. don't tell me what i don't know.

 

Stealing isn't caused by weed. It's caused by stupidity. There's a big fucking difference.

 

seriously, i love the weed. but i'll never deny it's ability to fuck people up, just like any other drug. don't live in denial. it makes you look stupid and childish.

 

Time to change my sig...again.

 

I can't really chime in on the parenting issues here because I'm not one- though if you're living under someone's roof you need to respect their rules or find another address.

As for MJ being harmless... I smoked on and off (mostly on) for ~20 years. I gave it up 2 years ago this last July. The reason I stopped is because the use had induced an asthma-like condition where smoke of any kind made it hard for me to breathe. The intial manifestation of this was when I took a particularly harsh hit from a bowl precipitating a 2-hour+ coughing spell. After that episode it was literally impossible for me to take a hit; I experienced the same uncontrollable cough. In addition any smoke triggered a reaction where my bronchial tubes closed up so it was difficult for me to breathe. This also happened at other times with no apparent cause- usually happening in the middle of the night waking me up. Fortunately an over-the- counter medicine (Bronkaid) eased these rather scary symptoms.

In the 2+ years since I've quit my lung function has gradually returned to normal. I no longer have the asthma-like reactions. In addition, my mind has become much clearer- working through complex problems requires much less effort on my part and I find it far less difficult to get off my ass and do something. I've taken up weight-lifting as an activity and other exercise to among other things, increase my lung capacity. At 42 I'm in better physical shape than when I was 21. Additionally I am far better able to cope with life's little tragedies. An at times uncontrollable temper has tamed and a tendency for deep depression has almost completely disappeared.

Do I think pot should be illegal? No. I think Adults ought to be able to decide for themselves whether or not to try it. As for me, my smoking days are all behind me. I've committed my life to more healthful pursuits. Do I think my experiences await anyone who habitually smokes? Probably not- it affects different people differently. My experience stems from the way I used- while not a heavy smoker (a bowl or joint would last a couple days) I was a daily smoker... my rescue awaited to save me from work stress after a long day of being a wage slave... actually having to DO something! I also was obsessed with not running out- too much of my time and resources were spent attending to this ball and chain of a habit.

While I definitely can attest to its effects I can also say that physically, MJ is NOT addictive. Apart from re-learning some social and coping skills walking away from it was a breeze. While I sometimes miss it I don't see myself ever trying it again- because of my history with it... I don't suddenly "see the light" because I quit. However, I do think that if, as a minor, you believe you're mature enough to experiment then you're mature enough to consider the repercussions of such a decision not only to yourself but also to the people who ultimately are responsible for what you do. Being mature means realizing that it might be better to hold off some experimentation until you are on your own.

 

Actually, I wouldn't be reacting in any way you've described. Being a step-mom, I'm not allowed to have any disciplinarian responsibilities. But regardless, being a pot smoker and having started at a young age myself, I'm sure I would not be throwing a fit. I wouldn't be smoking with them either, though. If I found pot of theirs, I would take it, plain and simple. I can't see them coming and bitching about it being gone. If they bought it, it was money out of my or their Dad's pocket, they make no money of their own. Sadly, my boys are not as responsible as you. No chores or jobs are required, temper tantrums and physical violence towards each other is tolerated, respect for anyone or anything is not required. Not my rules and a whole different story besides. But the point is they don't have maturity and responsiblity to use as an argument in their favor.

I like you, it sounds like you don't have long to wait to be entirely responsible for yourself. I'm sure your parents overreacted because of worry and that they love you.

 

Well, I think it's different for every kid....Depending on maturity, responsibility, grades in school, their social ability....

But if I had a good kid, good grades, extracurricular activities, has chores, his own money....and he's about 16, I will smoke with him....Explain to him what responsible pot use entails (and I know some would say that pot use isn't responsible, but to each his own ideas, ok?) and tell him that if he wants to buy some, he should come to me and we'll look for some together so he's learning how to responsibly buy without getting himself in trouble and ALSO find a reputible dealer that WON'T waste his time, give him something that's not actually pot, and won't narc.

Other than that, why should I say anything? I smoke pot myself. To tell him he can't do what I've been doing since I was 14 years old and CONTINUE TO DO would make me not only hypocrite, but enemy number one in my kid's eyes.

 

thank you your a cool parent

 

Hey, Thanks! Now if my step-kids thought so, too............but, you know, the grass is greener over THERE! Hahahahhaahaa!

 

RE: More than one government brainwashed person has commented about the effects of mj.

I find it rather amusing that anyone who disagrees with your position is brainwashed by the government.
Look up the logical fallacy "ad hominem".

RE: Hey IronGoth, thats a really nice bike. Ill bet when your out on the hard road, you never go over 35 or whatever the limit is over there (im UK so meh). Because if you did, thats an offence isnt it?

Actually I don't. A Harley Davidson bike, though it can go like a rocket if asked, is a cruising bike - one which
I happen to prefer to ride the limit in, taking in the surroundings.
I prefer to cruise, gasoline is expensive and you know what - even if this was NOT the case it's
MY bike, it's MY neck fracture if I go beyond my capacity to drive it and it's MY legal bullshit in that case. I
happen to be a legal adult living on his own. You are not.

RE: im a senior in highschool.. im 17 years old i turn 18 in december.. i get b's c's in school.. i got a job i pay my own car insurance.. i bought my own car, i pay for my own gas..

NONE of this mitigates the fact that you're not yet an adult, and you live in someone else's home. You could mention how
much you weigh while you're at it - what do you want, a cookie?

RE: once in a while i like to smoke some pot to relax me.. im a stressed out kid.. and its improved my life so much.. marijuana is a miracle.

Translation: I need this drug to escape my problems (classic addict mentality)

RE: I agree with you on most of these points IronGoth, but why should you restrict them from wearing US ARMY? Swastikas I totally understand.

A little joke, there.

RE: and irongoth, i am also a very polite son. im incredibly kind, if mom says " can u take out the trash?" and shes polite, even if im busy w/ somthing else ill say "sure" just because im a nice guy. or if she tells me to vacuum or somthing, ill do it. im not the rebel kind of kid u think i am.

I don't see any of this changes the fact that you're underage, living in your parents' home and subject therefore to their rules.

RE: and ive had a job since i was 15 years old, so i do have work effic, and i do gymnastics as an afterschool activity, and i also skateboard. im not a lazy bum, despite what u think. and for another thing... the reason i dont get A's and try so hard at school is beacause of stress and stuff,

The reason you don't is because you'd rather laze around and do dope. You said yourself if you were told you could smoke unlimited dope it would motivate you to get A's. There's nothing in your own life you care THAT much for, except drugs.
This is a bad sign.

RE: no, what i'm saying is that you should have used the word iterate, which means to say again, rather than reiterate, which means to say again again. you have to iterate before you can reiterate.

re·it·er·ate Audio pronunciation of "reiterate" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-t-rt)
tr.v. re·it·er·at·ed, re·it·er·at·ing, re·it·er·ates

To say or do again or repeatedly. See Synonyms at repeat.

RE: I can't really chime in on the parenting issues here because I'm not one- though if you're living under someone's roof you need to respect their rules or find another address.

There's another one for my position. It's amazing how outnumbered you are, OP.

RE: You're a "cool" parent

Being a parent is not about being your child's friend or being "cool". It's about turning the kid into a responsible, productive individual in charge of his or her own life. Hearing about you and your statements that drugs, and only drugs, could assist you to:

- get along with and relate to other people
- motivate yourself to achieve
- deal with problems in your life

is a major major sign that your personality has some serious flaws in it. And rather than work on that, which is what you're supposed to be doing now, you're doing drugs.

Don't get me wrong - you could be so balanced as a person as to shame Anthony Robbins and the Buddha, but you'd still be wrong for bringing illegal stuff into your parents' home. As it stands, you're basically seriously in need of laying off the dope and getting your priorities right.

 

Fair enough but if you go beyond your capacity and harm yourself then how is that different to me from smoking pot? aside from minor details there is nothing in it.

(sorry but i have to say, i love your bike and those white walls are enough to make me squirt! it is an absolute classic!)

 

RE: Fair enough but if you go beyond your capacity and harm yourself then how is that different to me from smoking pot?

If I crash my bike noone's going to arrest or otherwise look sidelong at my dad.

 

Over the years and years i was finally and only once rip off big time by a friend i knew since he was 13 and we even used to motocross in the early 70s the son of bitch rip me off and what is he = A aviation mechanic "no longer working since every company around the airport allready fire him " and a alcoholic . Matter of fact i did trust him and he trusted me when we used to smoke pot in the early 70s. so much for your marijuana BS Iron Goth.

 

IntenseHeat - what the hell are you talking about?>