Atheists- What do you believe in?

well i don't consider myself an athiest but i do often jump at any opportunity to express what i do believe in. and for me that is that diversity is the nature of reality. that this rules no possibility out, and that, as much or more to the point, then any belief or inclination, that it is up to us, to avoid screwing everything up, for each other.

not because someone said that some god said so, but because we all have to live in a world, that is neither more nor less messed up, the our collective thoughtlessness makes it.

and this is at the very root of the bone i have to pick with most organized beliefs.
that somehow by wishing no harm, which is the good thing they encourage of us,
we are supposed to be able to expect no harm, as it actualy does, to accidentaly occur, as a direct resault of priorities we are told by them, to simply assume rather then objectively analyse.

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What conflict ? to deny the existance of a supreme being
This foolishness has been in existance since man came into being - you can forgive primative man that. But the fact that it is still around defies logic . And the fact that the believers outnumber the nonbelievers does not make it true
Athiests really want religion out of all shape of goverment

Live and let live

 

mrugly

Dont think they do.
Most 'say' they are this or that. [60+% say they have a religion]
But if questioned closely occam thinkes less than 1/2 of humanity
truely follows a religion.

Occam makes a sharp distinction
There are those that believe in 'direction'
And those that believe a religion.

They are NOT the same thing.

Occam is an agnostic. He does not know if 'god' as described by religion
exists. Based on the stupid stories. he thinks it all a fiction.

Yet he believes in 'direction'.
There is much non religious indicative evidence for such.

Occam

 

We DO believe in Human Dignity! We're NOT born "dirty sinners". We are born as earth's most intelligent and adaptive creatures. We have the ability to overcome adversity without help from mysticism, superstition and "invisible friends".

We believe in treating our fellow man as we would like to be treated; which is a Humanist Idea, thousands of years older than Christianity.

We believe that Humans are fully capable of deciding our own "purpose" in life.

We believe that the "comfort" that religion theoretically offers is more than off-set by the amount of pain, death and suffering it has caused throughout history.

And we believe that religion has hindered the advancement of human knowledge more than any other single cause, and is still doing so today.

 

I define myself as an atheist. I do not believe in a supreme being which has any influence on the universe. I believe in the abilities of all species on this planet to learn and adapt.

God or gods were created by human beings. These figures were used to explain the unexplainable and offer comfort to cultures. God is a fairy tale which in my opinion has as much merit in a modern industrialized society as Santa Claus, Easter Bunny or the Great pumpkin.

As the above poster stated and I am in complete agreement, "religion has hindered the advancement of human knowledge".

 

I agree that you have a very plausible posit there, Occam. I meant the death spiral that these spiritual beings on a human journey are on in the physical plane, resulting from relentlessly trashing our home planet. Every living thing is being destroyed at an ever increasing speed, leading to us all hitting a very harsh wall. It won't stop spirit from moving on, but the material world is what I meant.

 

I just would like to say this if your an athiest and believe in something you just officially contradicted your belief/ideology of this philosophy.

Not trying to insult anyone but just saying I noticed that alot were I live all these so called "athiests". So i just wanted to say that, but i was curious what is your views on athiesm?

Matt~

 

I disagree. What about this: Atheists believe that there is no God.
What does that contradict?

 

It contradicts the fact that they do believe in some sort of power as discussed within the Book of Satin written by Lavey....Now by contradicting I mean, within today's society that they worship "satin"...which within there belief as discussed yet again within the book of satin...that they don't believe in any such thing such as Lucifer yet they worship him?

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Besides nothing, I believe that women suck, and I believe that heroin is more interesting than heroines, and that Adorno, Shostakovich, and Camus, is all a man needs.

Men are "the dismemberment of negativity" --- Hegel

Wimps advocate, brave men advocate nothing.

 

What impoverished platitude is this?!
You mustn't have loved any truly beautiful women!

Brave men advocate themselves.

 

As i ahve stated before...athiesm is a blantent contradiction of it self in the manner of the following; "Athiesm is a form of belief that states they do not believe in any form of a god OR a BELIEF" hence making there belief and ideology a contradiction and if I have to and you want evidence...I will gladly provide it.

Matt~

 

"The manner of the following"?! lol

How is atheism the lack of belief in anything but god?

 

I have loved truly beautiful women to the point of suffocation. To unberability. Over and beyond myself. And yet I was forced, by existential exigencies, to acknowledge the negativity in them, the negativity in beauty, the negativity in myself (if you so which to name that phantasmogoria) and in being. I thereby faced dismemberement with that courage that accepts fear, and dwells with it, and I loved women all the more for understanding that in fact I loved nothingness.

 

Fexurbus

10 points for shostakovch.. .. brilliant.
Zero points for rest. Bigot, are you?
Are you a man? to know what one needs.. dose not seem so.

Occam speaks ONLY from rational observation. No emotion here lad.

Occam

 

Dejavu

True. More so a rejection of 'a negative cannot be proved'
But a negative CANNOT be proved, in this case unless men are gods.
Back to square one. We work it out for ourselves. Agnosticism

Occam

 

Can one love nothingness? I can't see how. The negativity in being is only becoming that feels shame, that lacks innocence----It is never death we love, even when we welcome it with open arms. The noblest women respect solitude even though they cannot love it, and do not fail in praise of the ego and self-love.

To be entirely phantasmagorical: If you are really dismembered, it is wisdom herself that recovers your heart.

 

There are gods, but no god. Keep on working by all means, but if you arrive at atheism, and with laughter, then tell me so I may raise my glass! Free-time is something I believe in most sincerely! lol

 

Am I a man? You seem to be very certain of what "man" is. God bless your heart.

 

Well, in your other post you mention laughter. In the end tears and laughter, like all dualities, dwell on a continuum. Maybe I seem gloomy because I was half-quoting from that viper we call Hegel. With a dash of Georges Bataille. And Camus. Oh, well. Words...

On welcoming death: why don't I commit suicide? I'm too skeptical for it.