Are we witnessing the collapse of America?

In addition to the problem of fertility, there is an ever growing population of elderly in America who are living longer and putting a severe strain on the healthcare system.

In the future I can picture roving bands of the elderly walking through the downtown section of the city —looting pharmacies, stoning the youths, and breaking store windows in search of items like depends. Walkers,
and Blood pressure kits. Clogging the highways and byways with motorized wheelchairs, souped-up golf carts, and mobility scooters,

 

Can you please write that up and send it to a movie producer?

 

Children are only necessary for reproduction, so it doesn't matter why they stop having them. Call them materialistic, call them selfish, call them pragmatic, call them an endangered species, its all the same. Call them saints if it makes you happy, but they are going extinct. Other populations such as blacks and Asians, have experienced a similar population crunch related to how much money they make, but the white population is the wealthiest and crashing the hardest. Maybe they are just easily distracted, and don't know how to make babies.

 

Yeah it's a diabolical problem, I sure do hope the world copes.

 

No problem, extinct species are easy to cope with, and conservatives can blame each other and Martians for all the world's problems, all the way into their graves.

 

Iran is not that big of a concern for the average american citizen either. Or a big problem for the US nation. It is made a big problem by the US and if it escalates it seems these days also primarily because of the US. The US is being more problematic for Iran than the other way around.

 

Kids are not valued less in first world countries with a declining birth rate. There's simply far less need to have many. Plus they cost more. The people who do have kids generally invest more in them than their ancestors a few generations ago.
That other aspects in life are valued and invested in more in 'our materialistic society' is an awesome luxury. As it is by choice

 

The family farms are all but gone, the small towns no longer exist, and the native people and languages are all vanishing off the face of the planet, which is being rapidly destroyed under the leadership of the most capitalistic country in the developed world. Their crocodile tears last all the way to the bank I'm sure. The US has the worst social record in the developed world, and their solution is to insist its everybody else's fault.

 

We believed in the fallacy that getting more and more , and getting stronger and stronger, would make our lives better and better. The fact that we used/use those standards as measuring sticks means that we are building our furure on a lie. When the house of cards falls, we fall farther and farther than anyone else (and certainly some of us will brag even about that) .

 

Americans think we are the only democratic nation in the world. Other countries don't have guns and admit they have socialist polices in the goverment. To many right wing Americans this means you fear and pity them and fight very hard to protect yourself from those ideas. There is also the idea they everyone is jealous of us.

This is really the whole "make it great again" idea. People don't praise us enough since we have not done things in the pro gun and pro white way. That needs to come back.

 

Americans could not care less about what anybody thinks, including other Americans. The KKK are not exactly known for being sensitive and open minded, or good neighbors. They thrive in an environment of complete distrust, which is why they attempt to control the mass media.

 

What we are witnessing is the downfall of society per the manifesto of Steve Bannon. Create chaos, and anarchy, then bring in a white knight(trump) to "save" us.

 

I did not read all 26 pages so sorry if this is a repeat.

Life Cycle of a Country
About the time our original 13 states adopted their new
constitution, in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history
professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say
about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years
prior.

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply
cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A
democracy will continue to exist up until the time that
voters discover that they can vote themselves generous
gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the
majority always votes for the candidates who promise the
most benefits from the public treasury, with the result
that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose
fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from
the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During
those 200 years, these nations always progressed through
the following sequence

1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
3. From courage to liberty;
4. From liberty to abundance;
5. From abundance to complacency;
6. From complacency to apathy;
7. From apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage"

Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law,
St. Paul, Minnesota believes the United States is now
somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of
Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some
40 percent of the nation's population already having reached
the "governmental dependency" phase.

Life Cycle of a Country

This is the first time in history the ruling elites have had computer technology so humanity might get stuck in that bondage phase for a long time but the protests in Hong Kong give me hope as I saw videos of people destroying the facial recognition cameras.

If that 1984 dystopia fully evolves it will be decades after I am gone but it is scary how fast that crap is growing.

 

LOL, Americans have been voting for whoever advertises the most for over twenty years. You can't say they've fallen from grace, when the idiots never had a brain to begin with.

 

People are catching on , recent polling shows it, but what will Americans do as realization sinks in ever deeper that the Duopoly in Washington operates " a both ends against the middle shell game " which serves themselves .

A recent Rasmussen poll reveals almost half of Americans feel neither party represents them.

At this point I will tell you neither represents me .

Here are most recent results.

“Is it fair to say that neither party in Congress is the party of the American people?”

• Agree: 47%
• Disagree: 35%
• Undecided: 17%

 

Americans have been complaining nonstop for 50 years that neither party represents them. The Libertarian party arose specifically because they felt neither party represented them. The idiots elected Donald Duck who was a democrat who converted to Neo-Nazi political strategy and was elected against the wishes of his own Libertarian KKK fucking leaders of the republican party. Americans insisting their government no longer represents them is exactly how Donald Duck got elected. He was elected to oppose the same Libertarian congress that was formed because nobody trusted the government.

For over ten years I informally surveyed people online, and their idea of political action is to "Vote the bums out of office!" The idea that the idiots don't have a clue as to what they are doing, and keep voting for whoever advertises the most, has yet to penetrate their thick skulls. They will go to their graves voting for whichever clown screams the loudest, and complaining about the service. Thankfully, they are so stupid they are not even reproducing anymore and are dropping like flies from alcoholism, like so many Ebenezer Scrooges.

I tell democrats to get a life, republicans at least recognize they no longer have a functional government.

 

This.

This is exactly why voter turn out is so low. It isnt because everyone is apathetic. It's because 47% of americans dont feel represented

 

Fear that the great unwashed would soak the rich was exactly why the Founding Fathers didn't like democracy and gave us instead a republic with all those checks and balances to prevent pure majority rule. They may have gone overboard, allowing the rich to soak the poor by manipulating the system to their advantage.

 

WHO CARES!!!

 

There are other reasons as well.--the fact that U.S. elections are held during the work week, the fact that the electoral college effectively disenfranchises folks like me in states that consistently support the other party, and the fact that most Americans only get involved on election day, when the choices are limited. But certainly the feeling that the parties don't represent us (and are beholden to the same special interests who give campaign contributions) is a large part of it. Short of a revolution, these features could be changed, if enough voters had the sustained will to change them. Easiest to change would be the date of the national presidential election which is set by federal statute at "the Tuesday next after the first Monday in the month of November" or "the first Tuesday after November 1" to accommodate rural populations. The electoral college would be harder, since it is established by the Constitution, but the onerous "winner take all" feature is set by state law, and if enough of them got on board, it could be eroded short of constitutional amendment. The influence of money in elections could be reduced by meaningful campaign reform, which would require either a constitutional amendment (hard to get) or a change in the Supreme Court to overturn Citizens United and possibly even Buckley v. Valeo. We'd have to overturn a line of precedent based on the shaky premise that campaign contributions are protected by the First Amendment because "money talks". The greatest obstacles to all of this is that these are issues that don't excite the average voter and will be fought tooth-and-nail by the powers that be. (See Post #521)