Are Humans done evolving?

Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by mr.morrison, Oct 16, 2007.

  1. JNature

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    Humans still kill humans for money and power. trust me, we are just monkeys with machine guns now. I don't want to go to hell!! Its filled with MONKEYS!!

    This generation is starting to scare me, im in the middle of it and i already see Fahrenheit 451 beginning to play out...
     
  2. Bonkai

    Bonkai Later guys

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    Well I think humans are evolving more socially/mentally than physical at the moment so to answer your question I would say no. Also I doubt that any living thing stops evolving, animals/plants evolve when they have to.

    My $.02
     
  3. The Scribe

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    It is generally, if quietly, acknowledged that Chinese and Jews have higher average IQs than other ethnic and racial groups. (Full disclosure: I am neither Chinese nor Jewish.)

    For two thousand years imperial China was a meritocracy. Wealth, power, and prestige were not the result of inheriting land and slaves, but passing the Confucian civil service exam. Those who passed were expected to support a wife and several concubines. Thus, they had many children. They had the financial resources to keep most of them alive. These children inherited the superior genes that enabled their fathers to pass the test.

    Since the Babylonian Captivity, and the defeat of the Jewish uprisings against Rome that happened from 66-73 AD, and 132-135 AD the Jews have been a dispersed and often persecuted people. They have had to live by their wits. Being intelligent had survival value.

    Currently our economy is evolving in ways that place a growing premium on superior intelligence. The world's people are increasingly facing the population pressures the Chinese and Jews have faced for two millennium.
     
  4. Clockwork Purple

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    From a scientific point of view, I can't accept evolution at all. The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics says entropy of an isolated system will increase over time. In other words, you can't get more complex systems from random actions. Saying that a human or any other life form was made by accident would be similar to saying that a tornado hit a junk yard and accidentally assembled a 57 Chevy in mint condition. When you look at man-created object such as car, you can see the thought and design behind it. You know it didn't just accidentally form because you can see how all the parts were thought out for function. It's the same with any life form.... there is obvious thought behind the design. Except in the case of biological life, the design is far more complex. So how anyone can think it's an accident is really beyond me.

    I think believing in the church of evolution takes a hell of a lot more faith than any other theory out there. Take a quick glance at some of the pictures of people with radiation poisoning. Genetic mutations do not improve things. And evolution tries to tell us that random cosmic rays knocking codons loose will somehow improve the genetic code over time.

    I honestly think evolution was invented by people just absolutely determined not to believe in any sort of god. And this is probably because of some false belief that the existence of a god would somehow make their lives more miserable. Who knows, really? But faith and gods aside, evolution is a joke from a scientific standpoint.
     
  5. JNature

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    Yea another thing on the evolution subject. I've read somewhere that no known researcher has found a bone fossil that proves the evolution of man. Like the retroviral dna remnant is a ancestral piece that connects us to the early creatures that walked the earth, but none have been found.

    here a vid that's kind of interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ee3GaZKRGw
     
  6. ChrisGriffin

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    The oldest bones of humans were found in Africa from what I've read. Many believe life originated there, and gradually spread out.

    In regards to actual human evolution, I think we're far from being done. We have a long way to go before we're done evolving mentally and physically, this is still just the beginning for our race.
     
  7. ZeroxBleach

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    If we are still evolving, we're evolving along with science, medicine, and any other creations we make to comfort and sustain our lives. Modern technological advances have a HUGE impact on our future evolution.
     
  8. Deranged

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    according to a music video i saw, low iq families tend to have more kids than iq families by a big margin. people are getting dumber.
     
  9. enigma-the-one

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    it's also poor people have more kids than rich ones

    and even if people would be getting dumber it's scientificly prooved that intelligent people rather marry other intelligent people than dumb ones

    so people could getting dumber but there would still be plenty of smart ones on the world :)
     
  10. ChrisGriffin

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    It's poor people's fault that people are becoming more dumb, because it's their job as parents to make sure their kids receive the best education possible. With my mom, she's always done what's absolutely best to make sure I get the best possible education. The fact of the matter is that a lot of women now want to lay on their backs and have sex, but aren't ready to actually have kids. My mom thinks that people should be required to be tested before they have kids to see who deserves to have kids. Whoever fails said tests can't have kids, but whoever passes can. It'd basically be a way of telling who would have better parenting skills and what not.
     
  11. ZeroxBleach

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    I think nowadays it's a bit more than your parents deciding the value of your education. My mom gave me every bit of encouragement toward school, but I still flunked a lot of my classes.

    That's not to say I'm an idiot either, I scored above average on the SAT and borderline above average IQ. I believe one of the big concerns of education today is getting kids to actually be interested in school. I went to a school that, while public, was one of the state's TOP schools; and through my observation it seemed kids who's parents had a ton of money were only getting good grades so they could have one more level of "bragging rights" over the not so fortunate. Most of them couldn't even explain to a teacher what they were learning meant, but they still scored high grades on tests. I always wondered how this was possible.

    I may have flunked classes due to low motivation in high school(my current GPA in college courses are near 4.0) but I could out debate or out explain any well funded child in class any day of the week. In college, this changed for the better though. It's always nice getting out debated by someone and learning a lot from the person.
     
  12. ChrisGriffin

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    I totally understand your point, but I didn't really flunk classes, so to speak. All through elementary I was a 3.0 or 4.0 student. When I got to middle school, I was so influenced by everybody else that I started acting like a major dumbass, and I started getting report cards under a 3.0 (all through seventh and eight grade, to be exact). I took a vacation to my brother's house and thought about high school quite a lot, so I just decided to get home schooling, which has been a great decision I don't regret at all.

    I definitely agree that kids need to have something that interests them in school. Teachers are now trying to be overly strict and what not. My teachers wanted to make school as fun as possible for us. Third grade? BEST SCHOOL YEAR EVER FOR ME! My teacher rewarded us when we, as a class, did good. You don't really see that now adays in school, but we need to. The more it's made fun for kids, and the more they're encouraged and acknowledged when they do good, the better they'll become.
     
  13. enigma-the-one

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    even if parents pass this test, it doesn't mean that their kid will not be idiot, retarded or asshole (i know a couple of people who shouldn't even be born...)

    elementary school was worse 4 years of my life
    now on highschool it's better

    i skip classes, but i still have good grades and that stuff
     
  14. ChrisGriffin

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    No one can predict how someone's personality will turn out, or if they'll have diseases, but all of that could be cut out if people would be more precautionary.
     
  15. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    this thread devolved
     
  16. Back to "evolving"

    NO! We aren't done evolving. Physically we are evolved. We are fully physically evolved to live in our world. So no psychical change is necessary, at the moment. Unless some extravagant change to the earth was to come, we are physically right where we should be.

    The human mind, however, is not done evolving. We are currently undergoing a subtle change of consciousness, not so much right now, but this is the beginning of it. Most say our evolution lies in 2012, and despite all these wacky theories, I 100% believe a change in consciousness is coming. What this brings I don't know specifically. But it can only be good.

    Investigate some of this information for yourself, you will be suprised.
     
  17. ChrisGriffin

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    I don't think anything is going to happen in 2012 but we definitely aren't done evolving mentally. Afterall, currently we only use 10% of our total brain capacity.
     
  18. I'm reading to fast for my own good tonight. edit
     
  19. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    he said "we definitely aren't done evolving mentally." so his post isn't contradictory.

    the statement that we only use 10% of our brains is a myth - so says my neurobiology professor.

    snocbor, tell me more about these unused DNA "ladders"
     
  20. Ah yes, you're right.

    Our DNA is constructed of a ladder system. I was reading (I'm searching for it still) and there are I think it was 11 steps in the DNA ladder. Currently we only use 9 of them. There are 3 steps left unactivated in our DNA. These remaining ladders would come into play if there was a change in habitat, not sure what this means for us now or the future, but one of the speculations was psychic activity, or telepathy among other things I'm sure we can't imagine..

    I found it extremely interesting, it was an article called DNA Awakening, one of the dates for a change was 2012...
     

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