Are any of you not vegetarians?

i liek you

 

yeah i know how bad it is to eat meat. there are plently of reasons, but somethimes i can't resist to buy a ghotdog you know..... i do cut back, i think its ridiculous to think that you really need meat on your plate everyday. i know those people and the only reason i can think of them doing it is to bother vegetarians or something like that

 

I stick to a pescatarian diet. Mainly fish, veggies, fruits, and other seafood. I dont eat any redmeat or birds.

 

lol, yeah right.
See, this is an "all or nothing" black and white statement. Some people, for what ever reason, need to eat meat. Some people are allergic to the alternatives, some people don't react well to not eating meat, some people just like eating meat.
I eat meat. Why? Because when i eat it, I feel more energized then if I don't, and I like it. If I don't eat meat, and eat "nuts and berries" instead, I don't feel as good because its not the right kind of protein.
Whatever the case, people will always eat meat. And there's nothing wrong with that; provided we treat our animals humanely. And that CAN be done. DON'T cage the poor things up, let them roam free, feed them good food, and give them a happy life. Then, rather than slowly killing them like most ignorant meat producers do, do it humanely and quickly so there is no suffering.
I've heard of plenty of communes, farms, etc. where they produce their own meat. Animals are seen frolicking on the land and are healthy.
I eat meat. I don't approve of animal abuse or undue suffering. I approve of people having a choice of what to eat since we do have canines for a reason.

Also, are you saying REAL hippies don't eat meat? Pretty stereotypical.

 

I eat meat, not as my first choice of a meal though, yet but abhor how it's produced.
I won't ignore biology and say we aren't supposed to eat it, but it's gotten to easy to come by and there is in fact lives lost so we can eat cheap burgers.
I at least go with free range farm goods when possible, but I'm not perfect on that.
Wonder if I spelled 'abhor' right...

 

I think the meat companies should stop raising livestock in captivity but rather maintain large nature reserves and let organic animals roam freely and they could charge someone an amount and that person could go in and kill himself and animal and take it home and eat it. It's morbidly unnatural to me that people buy beef or whatever from the store and feed it to their kids while not telling them it's a dead cow's ass.

I don't believe humans were meant to eat much meat at all. Natural carnivores have sharp claws and teeth and are designed killers but humans are all smooth, with flat teeth. A caveman might have eaten meat, but on rare occasions. Otherwise, we would have evolved sharp teeth and claws. It was much easier for a caveman to live primarily on plants and herbs.

It is abhorrent to me that natural forest is cleared to make room for grazing land. That is the bigger contributor to global warming than supposed methane burps from bovines. Either way, big animals like cows should seldom be eaten, because of how much other land is used to grow corn for them to eat and all the water they need. I'm yet to kick fish and poultry, but red meat is something I almost never eat.

For people who say that it's hard to quit eating meat because they don't feel like they're getting the right protein from other food: that's just dumb because your body will go through withdrawals if abruptly stop eating any thing that it normally gets often. You can train your body to exist on anything you tell it to, assuming basic nutrients are included. You could live on nothing but hemp seeds if you wanted.

Do I think ppl are hooked on meat and should cut down? yes. Do I think meat is murder? not really, it just needs to be in moderation and awareness to possible threats to the earth and to species.

 

i was wondering about this... i heard about growing soja-beans in the amazone, a lot of illegal plantation is happening there and it destroys A LOT of the primal woods. on a factsheet (2005) of the environment protection in the netherlands i saw that 700.000 ha of woods, in only brazil, in a year is been cut down.

Now my question is, there are a lot of industries going on that are not right for the environment, our bodies and so on. Maybe it's an idea to just eat the biological variant of these products and support that side of the production. Or don't eat meat and soja at all?

 

I'll eventually become a full vegetarian, I just haven't made the transition yet. There was a time when the only meat I would eat was fish but it's no longer safe to even eat that anymore considering how polluted our oceans have become.

 

I know all the environmental problems associated with meat produation, but I only found out about them after I went vegetarian, so mow I'm trying to go vegan.

 

I like the idea, though last I checked hunting was legal in this country, and there are livestock raised in more organic ways if you can find a local farmer, as we have.

Unfortunately, you can't legally get your hands on venison and other local wild game without hunting it yourself because the FDA has no control over the quality (yet they just recalled how many millions of pounds of beef, go figure).

We raise chickens, mostly for eggs, but when they get old they make a fine meal, much better than what you get at the supermarket, which is disgusting.

And as far as the state of our agriculture goes, the production of vegetables is environmentally unfriendly as is the production of livestock, the whole corporate agri-tech industry stinks. The point about the production of soja beans is a good example of that. Therefore, I don't see that as a valid argument to prefer veggies over meat. The only way around it is to buy local, and know your source.

 

yea, I bet you've heard it all..... except for the crackle of bacon on the iron skillet and the sizzle of sausage patties in the morning!


Well... while I enjoy my greasy goodness... you have fun with that Morningstar burger...

 

Personally, I didn't climb all the way to the top of the food chain to munch on carrots... unless they are part of a pot roast!

 

well your right there.

 

Man no offense to anyone but it really ain't neccesary to argue 'bout one's dietary ideologies. Some people eat meat others don't, it's not gonna be the end of the world (less of course we make it the end...) I'm a vegetarian but only for like the last four months. Still tryin' to kick the meat habit but it's not easy. Specially bein' raised in the great fast food nation. Ugh... Bottom line is it's not the meat thats the problem, it's the way we decide to fix it. I mean every predator in history ate meat on a day 2 day basis man. Yet u don't see any of 'em dyin' from heart attacks an' what not. Meat can be good for u u just gotta figure out how to make it good for u. Though since I don't see that as happenin' I say just cut it out almost completly. My diet now consists of fruit, veggies an' the good ol' fish evry now an' again.

Lets all just learn to forget about our differences an' rise up to the higher standard of all bein' brothers an' sisters in peace an' love.

 

As far as i'm concerned its unatural not to eat meat, its part of the human diet, it always has been.
What makes the difference is how you obtain that meat that you eat.
Factory produced meat is sickening and I would never consider eating it.
But I do eat meat which I buy from local farms, all of which raise their livestock in excellent conditions and the animals have a very good life, it cost more but its definitely worth it.

I don't think anyone should be condemning meat, because theres nothing wrong with it, instead you should put your energy into condemning the evil factory farmers that are the ones to blame for all the cruelty.

 

I have no issues with meat eaters, so long as they eat only non-factory. I'm Veggie, but I try to be as vegan as I can. (mainly because I know about the hypocrisy of quite a lot of 'vegetarian' food. IMO, freeganism is the only real guilt free way of eating.

The 'meat is part of a human's natural diet' thing is just a little flawed. We're medium sized primates, since when do you see chimps eat cows and pigs? If you wanna stay true to the human's natural diet. Then eat 'mainly fruit, but also leaves, buds, flowers, bark, resin, honey, ants, termites; occasionally birds and a variety of mammals, especially monkeys.' There we go, human diet, enjoy.

(I'm not attacking meat eaters there, just the ignorant aggressive ones)

 

Not trying to instigate anything, but by definition, we are omnivores, meaning we are capable, and do eat both plants and animals. You can't literally compare what chimps eat to what we eat. Also, there is evidence that humans were able to evolve like we did because of the increased amount of nutrients in meats as opposed to mostly plant matter. I could get into it, but my point was that chimps are a little different than we are (actually a lot different), and so it's pretty obsolete to compare the two side by side like that.

 

I am gettin there,not fully Vegetarian yet though,eventually I do want to become Vegan...I actually wrote a research paper for my Envirometal Science class on this very subject. Many don't realize that alot of the problems that we are facing/will face, could be solved/alleviated if we ate less/no meat... It was quiet mind boggeling when I found that meat production accounts for more of the CO2 in the atmosphere then cars!

 

Here here! Opinions are just that. And truth is truth. And they don't mix very well on subjects like this because so many people feel the need to VEHEMENTLY DEFEND their positions. Maybe it's insecurity.

Truth is, everyone lives in a different environment. If I lived where I had to BUY all my food, I'd definately eat differently than I do. The "meat eaters are destroying the environment" crowd are not entirely WRONG in that respect, but they are definately are not RIGHT either. Because of the alternatives, THAT truth is not absolute. The "it's not a natural diet" crowd are not looking at the entire picture and don't understand what actually DOES happen in nature and how the whole thing works. The "need to eat meat" crowd are in the same boat with the "meat is unhealthy" crowd, being devisive in their personal opinions.

Try stripping away all the opinions and the HAVING TO BE RIGHT.

I've even been accused of being a HORRIBLE person because I eat meat when it is put in front of me.
That's just more unnecessary division.

When you live on a farm, or out in the country, the natural order of things is a lot more obvious and right in your face than it is when you live in town and all your food comes from the store. When country folk eat organic, natural, or wild meat, we are NOT harming the planet in ANY WAY. When we eat meat during deer season and eat vegies during garden season, we are not "addicted" to meat, nor are we addicted to vegetarianism. We are just following a natural flow of survival. It's called BALANCE. In nature ANY animal with a choice eats what tastes good to them when it is available to them. THAT's a natural diet. Anything else is manipulated.

 

if you look at all the other animals on the planet....there are plenty...that eat meat. although its not chemically atured meat (un natural...ewwww). i think ones decision is exactly that....their decision...period. dosnt matter whos right or wrong. its only wrong to hunt if the person hunting is only doin it for the game of it and dosnt use the meat. if came down to my kids eatin or bambi....bambi wouldnt stand a chance...