Are Americans Racist?

What case is that? I can't see any case that you made represented in the video. I agree with singers take.

 

Like it or not, floating currencies are what the world uses, and this isn't going to change. Too many rich people have too much to lose if the system changes. You may as well get used to it.

I give no credibility to IQ tests administered to illiterate societies. They have no motivation to try their best to get all the answers right. To them, playing around with those flash cards or whatever is just a moderately amusing way to kill an hour with those funny looking people from out of town.

The simplest definition of intelligence is the ability to figure out how to get things done. What you need to do varies from place to place.

 

The case that scientific ignorance is to be valued, or technological advancement is to be avoided.

You people sure as fuck don't want to go live off the land and be uncomfortable a majority of the time, and the people in those circumstances would trade places with you in a second. Enough with this disingenuous nonsense contending that we don't know which situation is preferable. Hunter gatherers want to be where you are, and you don't want to be where they are.

 

Sounds like you hang with a bad crowd or just like to gossip.

 

This is only because most people settle for this. If the majority would insist on changing this system, whatever it takes, it could easily be done. If we really would insist with enough people the richest of the rich just don't have a lot of choice. I agree that it is not likely to happen but it seems really easy to me when you have the numbers and a strong motivation. I do think though that most people in this world that settle for this economical system don't ever seriously think of changing it (or think twice about how the situation really is).

 

Who is making that case? It is as vain for an airplane pilot to call an aboriginal primitive as it is for an aboriginal to call an airplane pilot a god. Different skill sets and tools is all. An airplane pilot couldn't survive in an aboriginals jungle nor the other way around without serious education. There is no evidence that bright people do not exist in hunter gatherer cultures. Nor is there prehistoric evidence that human beings feared encountering other members of the human species. If you don't know how to attain your own food and energy supplies you are fucked in the event of a catastrophic interruption of services.

 

When did I say otherwise?

This sounds like idealist nonsense. The masses don't have an alternate plan for world trade and finance.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2AitTPI5U0

 

Any child can, under the right circumstances, learn whatever is taught them. African children are no different in that regard. Individual exceptions, of course. Choice of guide for a walkabout for me would not be a brilliant astro- physicist. I'd prefer one who understood agrobiology with a helping of empirical knowledge concerning what is proper to eat and where to find such. So what the op is saying is that
Africans are basically ineducable as "the rest" of us? Hmmmm--unless I misunderstand, this sounds familiar, somehow.

 

For someone with a high IQ like you claim to have, you sure say some stupid stuff...

 

realistically technological advancements can be slowed down by the rich not wanting to change but it wont be stopped. the oil rich people in the world would like to stop electric cars, and they can use their powers to slow it down, but in the end technology will advance and they will find some other way to make money. our economy is a big fuckin ship, it takes a long time to change courses.

 

Any child ... Learn whatever is taught them? No.

Are Africans capable of being architects and engineers and programmers and doctors and scientists? Yes, in very small numbers, and they certainly wouldn't be the best in their fields or in any way comparable to the top Asians in said fields. Asians are great in fields, Africans are great on plains. Sub Saharan Africans would need to be about two standard deviations higher than their local bretheren to be in a position with a good chance for success.

http://alfin2100.blogspot.com/2011/11/world-where-all-humans-were-subsaharan.html

 

Herp, derp, I'm Tyrson I like to react to posts I don't like with emotional vomit.

Put your thinking cap on Tyrson and respond intelligibly. Why is it stupid?

 

[SIZE=11pt]Nerd[/SIZE]

[SIZE=11pt]I just call it intelligence.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=11pt]Sorry you still are not making a very good case as I’ve said you seem to have chosen a result (that you think black people are less intelligent) and then tried to find things to back that up which besides not seeming to stand up to scrutiny is also deeply unscientific.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=11pt]Again can you tell us where you are getting the data? Is it from the much criticized IQ and the Wealth of Nations?[/SIZE]



You people sure as fuck don't want to go live off the land and be uncomfortable a majority of the time, and the people in those circumstances would trade places with you in a second. Enough with this disingenuous nonsense contending that we don't know which situation is preferable. Hunter gatherers want to be where you are, and you don't want to be where they are.

Oh I see your mistake -it’s a common one - you are seeing things from a personal social outcome rather than understanding the complex socio-historical context and background. I will try and explain -

Of course I don’t want to live NOW as a hunter gatherer and very definitely not as a poor subsistence farmer. BUT this is me NOW in place and time.

But as pointed out the archeological evidence seems to indicate that hunter gathers were more healthy than the early agricultural workers. In fact the lot of the vast majority of agricultural workers [the poor] has always been harsh, from the Egypt of the Pharaohs to the slaves labouring on roman latifundia to medieval peasants with their merge strips of land to Russian surfs. And even with the industrial revolution things didn’t get much better for the common people and in many cases worse, would I like to have been poor in Dickens London or Manchester (where life expectancy was often lower than 20 for the lower classes) also a resounding NO would be my answer even if it was the age of great industrial and scientific achievement.

But if you were a healthy hunter gatherer living free and well would you want to exchange that for the short brutish existence of a serf or Victorian industrial worker? Most probably not.
I think you need to start thinking more scientifically than emotionally and drop your assumptions and blinkered outlook.

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To me your prejudices directed at black people seem exactly like those held by a majority of men against women and upper classes on the poor in other ages and are still held by some bigots even in this ‘enlightened’ age and place.

It is common to try and belittle what you wish to suppressed, control or attack (why have sympathy with the ‘feeble’ and ‘inferior’).

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[SIZE=11pt]I’m really not sure why you posted the Steven Pinker video it doesn’t seem to have anything to do with your premise? [/SIZE]

 

Nerd...

Okay... How do you know that hunter gatherers want to jump right into modern society when they don't even know what it's all about? Have you asked them? Maybe they just need iPhones and a brand new automobile? What would they do with them?

Just because you can't survive living that close to the earth does not make those that do less intelligent than anybody else. And about them not being able to handle abstract concepts picture yourself out in the savanna with a spear, you just downed an antelope when a pride of lions comes along... How do you get out alive with the antelope and back home safely?

You wouldn't, they could. Your whole argument is a very thinly veiled racist concept.



By the way, Nerd.... You got your forum name correct at least.

 

I acknowledge it is a really big IF. But the masses seem not really busy with wanting to change this system in the first place. The main thing I was saying is that if that was the case the rich would have little choice in the end.

 

I noticed african hunter gatherers that never saw western civilisation before getting a visit from a western modern family in their environment and then they got to visit the modern western world. Guess what, as long as they can succesfully maintain there way of life they don't want what we have (they regard many of our luxuries as silly or pointless. Miraculous, amusing and very handy at best, but not something they crave).
The main reason hunter gatherers give up their way of life in recent times is not because they are so eager to live an get the life and stuff we have, but because it is made impossible to maintain their own. This can be due to different reasons, societal, environmental etc. etc.

I agree, nerdanderthal did jump to a false conclusion about that.

 

Ahhh-this is just total racist bullshit. How do you expect people to react to this. Something like= " yeah--you're right. So why are we wasting money on letting them go to school? Just keep them where they belong--serving the rest of us as it used to be." Yeah--you're right on with your BRAND NEW discovery. ppfffttt!

 

Yes there's plenty of racism in America but I wouldn't categorize Americans as racist.

If you hate people of other races or are condescending toward them then you're racist.

But if I'm walking down a city street and then notice I'm the only white person in the whole block, I get a little nervous, but I don't believe that makes me a racist.

I don't find black women to be very attractive. I'm sorry black women but I don't. She'd have to be pretty hot to interest me. I don't believe that makes me a racist either, it's just a matter of taste. For the record I've had 2 short flings with black women.

It all boils down to respect. Show a person of another race the same respect you'd show a member of your race. If you must judge someone, judge them by the content of their character and not the color of their skin, or their heritage, or their religion. Yes i just paraphrased Martin Luther King, a man I really admire. As a white man I'm grateful for all he accomplished.

 

You can see why I would expect it from all these fools' responses. Almost everyone is convinced by the noble savage meme.