Are Americans Racist?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Balbus, Nov 26, 2014.

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  1. Asmodean

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    They both have a lot of power but I think the banks are executing theirs better (from their own perspective).
     
  2. thedope

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    Personal recognizance trumps all other efforts. A person able to accept and account for the effects of their own thinking in every moment has a huge advantage over those who accept guilt as part of the indelible fabric of human experience. There is nothing indelible about it that the lack of accusation won't cure.
     
  3. Piney

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    Banking is super-regulated by The Gov and regularly pays huge shakedown fees for tripping over regulatory tripwires. Note: Bank of America, Citibank.
    Banking is loosing employees. the stock values are in decline.

    Banksters lost big in the Detroit Bankruptcy whilst others wrung better settlements.

    Those who hold municipal bonds will be discounted by the bankruptcy court in favor of pension holders.
     
  4. GoingHome

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    “If you would know who controls you see who you may not criticise.”
    Tacitus
     
  5. Nerdanderthal

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    Money is stored value, i.e. gold.

    Currency is the fact or quality of being generally accepted or in use i.e. Federal Reserve Notes

    Whatever is being used as a medium of exchange is the lifeblood of trade. Trade is the lifeblood of commerce and abundance. This lifeblood is being extracted through taxes. You think the taxes people pay is going to the government? No, no, no. Our taxes go solely to the INTEREST on the national debt, not even the national debt itself. We owe 18 trillion dollars to the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank for the privelege of borrowing currency from them. http://www.usdebtclock.org/ This privelege should belong to the American people, and to each individual country. Privately owned Central banks RUN THIS SHIT. We need to take the power back. http://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html#

    The president is a puppet owned and controlled by these banks. Banks select the candidates, we elect a candidate. The same is true of the vast majority of politicians. We need to take the power back.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIcqb9hHQ3E




    JFK stood up to the bank with Executive Order 11110, Lincoln stood up to the bank by printing Greenbacks to get out from under the boot of bankers. Every... president... who took a stance in favor of the people, in opposition to the banks has had attempts made on his life.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4n0J19yFMY
     
  6. deleted

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    posters can say anything they want .. ya just cant attack a poster personally. .. least keep it civil and moral.. ya ,,,ok..
     
  7. Balbus

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    nerd

    Many think the IQ test is a flawed measurement and it has become rather discredited as a catch all.

    Then I’m trying to find out where you got the data?



    Sorry that’s too simplistic I mean what is an ‘unfit’ gene or a ‘unfit’ person? Again it sounds a lot like eugenical nonsense. I get the feeling you have begun with a premise (that whiter races are more intelligent that blacker ones) the ‘found’ the what you think backs that up.



    I think Stalin tried a similar experiment he took a lot of people from differing classes and groups and herded them into colonies in Siberia all it seemed to do was cause large amounts of suffering and death.
     
  8. thedope

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    Your philosophy of money doesn't mean much except to limit your options. How do you propose to take back control when you think you yourself subservient to the financial system? It has been shown that voting does not influence policy but that moneyed access does.If the system is rigged then it is not through the system that your liberation is to be found.
     
  9. Nerdanderthal

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    Why have native SS Africans never built a two story building or a large school system? Why have they never created water filtration or a plumbing system to dispose of waste? Why haven't they come up with refrigeration or even... sailing? Or agriculture!?

    The first known agricultural settlements were in the Tigris and Euphrates valleys and that was ± 12,000 years ago. Then you had spontaneous invention of agriculture in China 8000 years ago, in México 4000 years ago, Perú 3000 years ago, etc. At the very least Africa is very, very far behind the innovation and invention curve. Innovation and invention are borne of intelligence, which is more easily measured than you're willing to admit, but leave the tests out of it. The proof is in the pudding.

    There are many possible reasons we could point to as to why the pudding is the way it is. The most likely scenario is that white people were tired of European winters so they made regular trips down to the heart of Africa to enjoy the weather and hold back the black man.
     
  10. Nerdanderthal

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    You may be right. Perhaps cryptocurrency is the way.
     
  11. thedope

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    Personally I have noticed that sharing of your own abundance stimulates the most profound natural economy. This business of having currency represent personal investment is the scam of thieves. We possess a wise biological inheritance that is being usurped by the idea of civilized tradition. That tradition being one of patriarchal proprietarianism which means the haves control the proceeds of human endeavor by proxy authority. This is what is known as the money changers sitting at the entrance of the temple. They neither go in themselves, that is enter the cause of humanity at large, nor allow others to enter unencumbered.
     
  12. thedope

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    You have no way of calculating most likely. It is a statement without substantial measurement. Climate change has been shown to favor some populations and come at the detriment of others and has definitely played a role in the rise and fall of civilizations as well as has war. When considering what the pudding is made of you can't neglect the larger forces of nature or the larger movements of man across time.
     
  13. Asmodean

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    I don't get this part either... How is that the most likely scenario exactly??
     
  14. Karen_J

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    You can't eat gold, drive it to work, or live in it. It's worth something only because people THINK it's worth something, just like cash. The magic of gold is a myth.

    Nowhere close to the truth. Military spending is a much larger percentage of federal spending than interest on the debt. Social programs are the largest slice of the pie.
     
  15. Asmodean

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    Well, even though every value of currency is indeed in the end attributed to it, the worth of cash is linked to the gold price. Gold (and silver etc.) has a more steady value, even though the price can go up and down due to the market, than cash/money on itself.

    I also notice there is a link lacking with the original topic. Maybe Nerdanderthal could concretely explain how the power of the banks is a race issue?
     
  16. Balbus

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    Nerd

    Again you seem to have begun with the premise that black people are unintelligent then gone out to find things that you then claim is ‘evidence’.

    [SIZE=11pt]Availability, necessity plus geography – thing is that hunter gathering if there is an abundance of game, fruit etc is better a way of life than adopting the early form of agriculture (or subsistence farming today) in fact “as human societies adopted agriculture, their people became shorter and less healthy”. It has been argued that agriculture was "the worst mistake in the history of the human race" because with the adoption of agriculture came "the social and sexual inequality, disease and despotism, that curse our existence", “agriculture allows food to be stockpiled and enables some people to do things other than look for food, it led to the invention of more and better weapons, soldiers, warfare, class divisions between those who had access to food and those who did not, and inequality between the sexes”.[/SIZE]

    Two story buildings – why would you want them?

    A large school system – few societies had them, the rich might yet some but that wasn’t ‘large’ and points to the inequality mentioned.

    Plumbing system to dispose of waste – comes about due to urban living and not always even then.
     
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  17. Nerdanderthal

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    Yeah when I said it was Europeans holding the black man back it was a bit tongue in cheek. :p
     
  18. Nerdanderthal

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    I don't think gold is a magic bullet, but fiat currency is infinitely worse. We're at a point now where banks create currency by typing zeroes into bank accounts for loans and reap the rewards of the interest. They lend the public 1 billion dollars and require that 1.2 billion is paid back to them. BUT 1.2 BILLION DOESN'T EVEN EXIST IN THE ECONOMY so repossessions are inevitable, even if everyone works their butt off and spends their money wisely, there is not enough fucking money for everyone to pay the banks back. They will seize real assetts from real people because they have the privelege to type zeroes into bank accounts. No risk, all reward, it's casino capitalism and the banks are the house. This is usury. This is what Jesus flipped out about.

    The value of the dollar has decreased 96% in 100 years. You can't print more gold or type gold into existence.
     
  19. thedope

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    Just so long as it is not used as a basis for further reasoning.
     
  20. Nerdanderthal

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    You can do all the mental gymnastics you want to try to find a definition of intelligence in which Sub Saharan Africans excel. Naturalistic intelligence? Sure, I'll give you that. There are still several uncontacted hunter gatherer societies throughout the world who no doubt have extraordinarily high naturalistic intelligence.

    I'm speaking of scientific intelligence. I'm talking about the ability to juggle abstract concepts in one's mind.

    There are many many people who have a clear vision of the noble savage they continually refer to. I see you're one of them. Steven Pinker knocks this question out of the park in this TED talk. He makes the case better than I could.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ramBFRt1Uzk
     
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