Are all hippies anti-gun?

I dont personally like guns, but it's ok to collect guns and have fun with target practice. It's not the guns that kill, it's the people using them. Im against that.

 

I guess I wouldn't really consider myself a 'hippie', but I like guns. I hope I never have to use one for defense (Although I probably would if it came down to it, and either myself or someone I cared for was in danger), and I don't hunt, but I love to target-shoot. It's a sport like any other, but a sport for people who can handle the responsibility of using a potentially very deadly device. I guess that's my 2 cents.

 

Give a gun to somebody and he's another person.

 

I'll disagree w/that based on being around firearms longer than you've been breathing... *c*

 

People with a gun tend to be more likely to use a gun... to kill...

 

I'm calling BS... where's your documented proof?

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In your implied scenario
isn't the same true for those w/
skillets/ knives/ beer bottles/ ice/ other deadly weapons...?

Wait!
Don't all these items have nonlethal primary uses?
Doesn't logic say it's the
person which uses these as 'weapons' to kill
that's the root cause of any resultant death... not the 'weapon'?
ie: the person's desire to kill is present before they have a weapon?

 

I wouldn't call myself a hippie, but I'm very, very pro-gun. Serriously, the incredible vast majority of guns are used for target shooting/hunting, and most gun crimes are committed with illiegal firearms. It's like knifes, the vast majority are used for normal things, but 4-5,000 people a year in the US are still being stabbed to death.

 

TheMadcapSyd, you summed it up perfectly.

 

Wow, very ignorant post. So if someone broke into your house with a shotgun you would kill them with your bare hands? I doubt that would happen. It's not the terror alerts that get people to buy guns, its the criminals. If americans have the right to bear arms then why the hell not. And I'm pretty sure the chance of a plane crashing into you or a drunk driver crashing into you is less likely to happen than a home invasion. Also, some people do buy guns to target shoot. There's a guy that shot 6 rounds out of a revolver in under 3 seconds, the only thing he killed was a paper target. If you want to start bitching about the rights of paper, be my guest.

 

^actually... (thank for you giving my post the qualification of "ignorant", really helps to build your post's intensity ) I couldn't care less about an home invasion where I live...

umm. did I say that? I just mentionned killing is possible with any tool... this kind of question has just way too many possibilities for answers anyways. First of all, let ME ask you a question... how often does a successful protection with a gun actually even happen? I rarely hear about that...when someone barges in my house, Ill most likely be sleeping, and be too caught up in the moment to even think about getting my gun out and shooting the man or woman.

And, you didn't even give me the choice to decide "No, I wont kill him"... lol... do all of you people really have in mind "if someone barges into my fuckin house yo, ima kill him".? I dunno man... cant i decide to negociate and give him whatever he/she wants, or simply hide, or most likely, be too pumped up with adrenaline to think straight? One thing I know for sure, is I dont wanna go to bed each night thinking that some bastard could come unexpectedly in my house and kill me.

There are many things that can happen to us humans, wether confroting death at a ski hill or getting mugged on the street, you cannot carry a gun everwhere... I confront death every second of everyday... who knows wtf can happen... There are high possibilities that I could die, or one of my family members die at a ski resort this winter... but does this mean Ill be carrying extra protection gear for my life? no... anything can happen...
Pro-gun for protection kind of reminds me of the movie "The Island".. humans want too much and fear too much... you'll do everything to live a few extra years...Won't you?

at least we agree on this part. I doubt Id kill him with my barehands two...

haha... and where do you hear about criminals? same place you hear about terror alerts... why are there so many criminals in the country you live in? Lets just say my uncle went in South Carolina and got into a boat cruise with 30 people and the terror alert was at its highest.. ironic isn't it... a terrorist or an act happening on a boat in an very unkwnown part of the world with 30 tourists going from point A to point B... But yet, they have to face the possibility that "something" might happen... just like you seem to be facing that "possibility" of a criminal getting to you every day... but hey, it's just a possibility...One that subconsciously creates fear and stress in the subject exposed to it.
Just like the high possibility, (which is much higher then that of being mugged during the night) of dying in a car crash... but of course you wont hear about "car crash alerts"... boy would that be bad economically. And can you imagine everyone fearing the cars in their surrounding? Being on a state of alert at every intersection, just like the confused citizen in its house waiting for that darn invader to kill him and his family.

Oh and I doubt your 35mm will come in handy on the highway.

Like certain religions have the right to kill a non-believer... then sure, do as you please. A right doesn't mean something is "decent" or "correct"... I could come up with real rights all around the world that are stupid and idiotic... Like the law in certain parts of Europe making it illegal to call your animal pig "Napoleon" or the one in, I forget which part of the world, making it illegal to make a fish drink alcohol...
But if biased by your perception... then, WHY NOT HUH? its a god damn right isn't it?
If your country were the first to propose a new right... to kill (lets just imagine), you'd be the first to do it pretending it's a correct action... think twice before calling another ignorant.

or a car crash like stated above, or a sport injury, or crossing the street on foot or on bike, or facing any parts of everyday life... Anything can fuckin happen... chances are the one with the gun in his wardrobe will die in a way he couldn't prevent... now stop trying to be a medecine man, and let things happen as they should happen. If I were to fear moments of "danger"... I'd be carrying a god darn gun everywhere with me for "protection" against evil "dangers".

ok... I dont really care about this... so umm. ok...

guns for target-shooting and guns for protection is a different topic for me.
But if a gun be needed for protection... then you are one sick kid my friend.

 

Uninformed / clueless. ^ ^ ^
Could've guessed contry w/o looking.

Yall do whatever yall want, we'll do as we see fit...

 

lol perhaps I really am uninformed and clueless towards this subject... perhaps not...
although... your "could've guessed country w/o looking" comment... takes away your credibility.

Please do tell why though... Id like to know what makes me uninformed simply by looking at "Montreal"...

I am not surprised by your type of answer though...

I could've easily replied to you, with your pro-gun opinions "couldve guessed the country"...
Where I live theres practically no more then 1-2, sometimes no murders / year... no one has to think about the subject of gun-protection coming to surface... all my neighbours go to bed with opened windows, and unlocked doors... although your country's been in the shit for so many years... and I cant do anything about it. .. in a way I am ignorant, thanks for making me realise... ya'll do what the fuck you want down there... they're your problems, not mine.
I just find it ironic how the more firearms for protection or sports is gonna help the criminality you all seem to be so afraid of.

 

You are... no doubt about it.

Can't change the fact certain countries are antifirearm.
It's just a Fact of Life.

Anyone that believes that credibility crap is full of it.
They prolly also have brown eyes... which isn't their natural color. *L*


Reading between the lines my guess is the crime stats
up there are higher than you realize/ will admit.
Will also guess crime is increasing as Times marches on.

BTW we don't lock anything where I Live either - house/ vehicle/ nada.
Wouldn't attempt that fifteen miles away.
All this proves is there are still areas where there is little crime.

 

lol... yeh... well. I have nothing against your opinion. as long as you respect mine... I mean you have your reasons that make a lot of sense... and so do I to me... lol brown eyes which isnt my natural color...? was that a joke.. cuz thats pretty funny... how could i dye my eyes anyway?...(besides, why the hek did you decide to put my eyes in the debate lol... is it cause you ran out of ideas and had to attack me with physical traits?... anyways)

And actually... you're probably right, there are a few more crimes going on then we know of ... although I am aware of the statistics in my city... and there are no more then a few little crimes per year...

but i still believe it to be ironic to decrease crime rate by buying more firearms for protection... if the crime rate is getting higher every year... do something about it fuck, find the core of the problem... buying more guns will obviously not solve anything, if something, it'll make it worst.

 

Unnatural brown eyes is a Nice way of saying
someone's fulla shit...

" but i still believe it to be ironic to decrease crime rate by buying more firearms for protection"
Ironic or not that's the upside to allowing citizens to legally arm themselves... especially w/concealed handguns.

Crooks appear to think before doing their deed
when faced w/the uncertainty of facing a loaded firearm...

 

I used to think that guns weren't too bad, that it was just irresponsible people with guns that caused the problems until a kid i knew got drunk one night and shot himself with his dad's hunting rifle in his own living room. If the gun wasn't there, he would have still had the death wish, but not the instantaneous way to kill himself.

By the way, an untrained shooter loses in a fight with a guy with a knife in distances 20 feet or under the great majority of the time anyhow.

and yes, I'm from the USA

 

No knives or other deadly weapons in the house?
No blame on one of the root causes - booze?

An "untrained shooter" has no business handling a firearm except to become trained.
Think about it...
BTW is your post's guy w/a knife also untrained? *c*


What's w/Folks not accepting responsibilities for their own actions?
Geesh...

 

I try to keep the peace with everyone. But if someone says something out of place, or places me in a stereotype, I give em a piece of my mind. I don't like guns, weapons or fighting. I'm anti-war. I agree that people kill people, guns just make it easier for them.

 

Ya there pretty sure he was drunk or high, anyhow

I don't even know if the guy with the knife is trained it was in a police study I read a couple months ago. But there are solid numbers that having guns around does lead to more violence.
As Atticus Finch put it in "To Kill a Mockingbird", "Having a gun around is an invitation for somebody to shoot you." I didn't really get this but it is really, because one person having a gun might make someone else feel threatened, so they get a gun to have the same power, and on and on. I don't agree with all the "Hippie" views, but I am for strict gun control laws.
In America we do have a right to bear arms, but that right was put in there because the founding fathers were afraid that the british might come back, and Americans were going to have to defend themselves in there homeland again. At the moment, our army is so strong, and we have so many weapons that there is a very low likelihood that Americans will have to fight battles in their homeland again.

My final reason for not liking gun control is because there is so much violence in our culture already, with video games, music, t.v. that having more guns going around just doesn't seem responsible. That and I don't understand how its satisfying to shoot down a clay bird or something, like whats the point? You could always take up archery or something if your into the whole target shooting thing right?

 

In a truly hippy world (love, harmony, peace) guns would be unneeded but we don't live in that world as of yet.