Apple wants to control the camera on your phone

I know my generation is shit. Every generation has been pretty shit for the last 2000 years because of the reasons you mention.

I really just wish the nuclear war would start, blow away all the stupid iphones with it. I am so ashamed to be human.

 

This threatens to be a very long winded response.
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I don't trust technology, never have and I never will.

Technology always serves the most violent and corrupt members of any society. In the case of Apple, we have Steeve Jobs arrogantly singing his own praises about how he is helping to create the futre.

But instead of doing something noble, like using technology to feed the thousands of children starving in the world. Steeve Jobs is trying to find ways to physically locate you in order to better target you with advertising or stop you from filming a concert.

I'll bet you any sum of money you can muster that the Steve Jobs solution to feeding the third world is to create factories. Factories where work conditions are substandard and employees are paid pennies. That way his Ipads will be manufactured for nickles and sold for hundreds of dollars.

In my books, if a man has the power to take a bite out of human suffering and he doesn't, then he's a scum bag.

Technology is an addiction,
And the young of today are seriously addicted to it. There is this perceived notion that whatever the problem is, there is a technological solution to it. And that is just not true! A good example of this is Malaria. We have had the technology to wipe out this sickness but greedy pharmaceutical companies and corrupt governments keep it going.

In short, technology does not make life better or improve the standard of living. It enslaves, breeds apathy and reduces humanbeings to simple numbers. What improves the standard of living is literacy, simple mechanics and plumbing and communalism.

As for you comments about being a grumpy old man,
I suppose a little fatigue does go hand and hand with old age. It comes from seeing the same things happen over and over again and no one ever listening to us saying to try something different.

I'm not out of touch with the younger generations. Because in some ways today's youth is exactly like yesterday's youth. That being you're all just looking to find your place in this world. But unlike my generation, the odds are severley against you. I hate to sound like an old man, but the youth never wants to listen to those older than they are.

Well that wasn't as long winded as I thought it would be.

 

technology can be, and is, used for making positive changes in the world. a good example of this is the one laptop per child (laptop.org) program. using open source software and inexpensive hardware, the program allows children in developing countries access to educational materials that they would otherwise never have access to. technology can help people help themselves, by making information widely available at little to no cost. this is a good thing. corporations and governments who try to control technology and use it for their own morally questionable purposes are the problem, not technology itself.

 

your just old

 

How about 1 sewer per community?
How about 1 toliet per family?
How about 1 blackboard per village?
How about 1 teacher per 20 mile radius?

There are places in this world were children don't have food to eat but they have M16 rifles.

There are places in this world were children mine "field gold" and they immerse their hands in mercury to make the gold flakes stick to them.

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I could literally paste a list of hundreds of problems of the third world. Including those that benefit from the "1 laptop per child" program. And despite their unique societal problems, they all have only 2 problems in common. Lack of access to clean water and sewage systems.

The entire "one laptop per child" program was the brain child of Google. It saw the entire deployment as a way to field test and troubleshoot adhoc networking technologies and anti-theft systems. It was also heavly backed by the International Broadcasting Bureau (the IBB is our offical governmental bureau of propoganda dissemination) and in 2006 it received further assistance from the Pentagon rapid response operations.

A laptop doesn't feed a child or teach a child how to read. Whereas a blackboard and 1 teacher can not only teach children and adults how to read and write. It has also been proven over and over again that 1 teach and 1 blackboard help a community solve it's own problems. A school becomes a central place for meetings and a teacher becomes a leader. More often than not, the community not only learns how to read and write but also how trench their own waste disposal areas or clean their water.

 

a laptop does teach a child to read. a laptop with a connection to the internet gives communities access to information they cannot dream of having access to with a teacher and a blackboard.

oh course the ideal situation is that everyone has access to food, healthcare, and information - but that isn't the reality. technology can be used to bring information to the world's impoverished to help them help themselves, and i don't see how you can see that as an evil thing.

 

No it doesn't. And what is this information they desperately need to access? Is it the sports scores or to find out how much they are entitled to the goverment aid that they won't likely be getting? Or perhaps the idea is to improve the economic condition of the community by spaming americans with a plea for help to cash a billion dollar check from their dead political prisoner uncle.

It makes no sense at all that a community get advance WIFI and computer technology if it doesn't have a teacher and a blackboard. You still need someone to install the network, maintain it and teach the child how to use the computer. Whereas a blackboard and chalk require no training, is cheaper than a cell tower and lasts for years without routine maintenance.

Sorry but the entire thing is a scam and you can't use American concepts of what is really going on in this world.

Having said that,
I'm the product of a generation that had the best public school education that ever existed to date and has never existed since. And we certainly never had "laptops." Granted I make my fair share of grammar errors and typos. (Mostly because I type with 2 fingers) However today's youth borders on illiteracy and they certainly have access to laptops.

The entire laptop program is garbage and I'll explain why.

1) When problems arise stuff gets sold or traded.
2) Bandits and other criminals always go after the same stuff. Cell phones and other consumer electronics. Therefore owning a computer in these areas is just asking for violence.
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So who is really benefiting from the laptops?

It's the not the poor beggar on the streets of India, or the starving African or even the orphans of Venezuela. Because these "assistance groups" know that if you gave any of these people a computer it would be sold or traded within 24hours. Probably for a lot less money that it cost to purchase and get it into their hands. So they get nothing from it.

The people that benefit from a laptop are same type of people that would benefit from a computer in North America. The working class poor and middle class. But these people already have things like schools and toilets. And they already live in areas where they're not likely to have a gun pointed at them.

Sorry to be so blunt, appearing like a mean and nasty old man. But it's neither improving the social conditions of women in this world, nor is it taking a bite out of illiteracy because those that get them are already literate. Add to this that the majority of Internet resources to date are written in either English or Chinese. And you quickly see that this entire laptop for each child is nothing more than the typical "sound good and feel good" marketing and it's pure bullshit.

So I'll tell you what, here is an experiment anyone can do to prove me wrong.

Go to a foreign nation where you don't speak the language. Find a child, and give him a laptop as the only source of education, in the language of that nation. After 10 years go back and tell me if he is able to read and write.

 

I told you you sound like an ignorant whippersnapper.

Don't forget the pollution of making all these laptops. And the profits/subsidies go to the same old rich bastards. And the poor people paid next to nothing to produce them. But it makes Americans FEEL GOOD.

Where on Earth does a laptop fit into the fundamentals of life? A fucking spade would be more useful to them thaan laptops. With a spade you can at least bury your dead relatives before the disease starts to spread.

 

I'm guessing farmers in africa dont have a lot of free time to cruise the net for info on things they will NEVER have

 

Hmph. I would rather see an awesome mushroom cloud before the radiation killed me, core meltdowns are booooring!

According to this fellow, Fukuskhima was no accident:

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHfZBQyr2Fs

It's so scary to see this technology finally being confirmed.

 

this is going to be my last post in this thread, because i just don't have the time or energy for pointless arguments right now.

we can all agree that the world, as it is right now, is unjust and fucked up.

what we apparently don't agree on is that technology can be used for good purposes. you think that technology is inherently evil, where i think that technological advancements can be used to do good in the world. i'm not saying that they always are, but if you can't imagine any ways that they can be, you're either very ignorant or being irrational.

most of the issues you mentioned with a program like the olpc program are a result of companies or governments taking advantage. the idea itself should not be to blame. providing laptop computers loaded with educational material to children in developing countries IS a good thing. it isn't a perfect system, and it isn't going to solve all of the worlds problems, but it is a start.

the laptops are provided to children through the ministry of education in their country, and used as a part of their education. what is the problem with this? having laptops full of open source software reduces the need for textbooks and other supplies (pencils, pens, paper, etc), and allows children to take the computers home with them so that their families can use them as well.

i guess i just don't see how providing low-cost, high-quality computers to aid children in developing countries with their education is a bad thing?

 

Who the hell said that technology is inherently evil?

 

i was referring to this, not anything you said:

 

Obligatory: Bemoaning technology on the internet. :juggle:

 

I have this

http://www.google.com/url?source=im...AQQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNGrqv1mFbaCi6jzNUXh98nWj9jPFQ

Has a camera on it, but I never use it. I need my music man.

 

Sometimes the love of technology is not just an addiction.

But it can also be a religion.

And like many religions, its adherents can become blinded by their dogma. Refusing and negating all that does not correlate with their world view.

 

I never said technology was evil. I said that it always serves the most violent and corrupt members of any society.