Anyone who takes E's everyweek, how do you feel?

Discussion in 'MDMA - X' started by Felly, Mar 2, 2008.

  1. Omacatl

    Omacatl Senior Member

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    rolling often is going to catch up with you in the long run regardless of how you feel now.

    your brain was never wired to flush all of its serotonin like that so frequently. your serotonin axial terminals are changing with each use, sometimes even dying and breaking off. without a chance to regenerate and return to normal, they grow back shriveled and weak. your fucking axial terminals probably look like fucking burnt cheetoes if you abuse MDMA on a regular basis. how anyone can appreciate life after all your emotional faculties are out of whack is a mystery to me.


    stick to natural MEDICINES, like mushrooms and cacti. and dont abuse those either.
     
  2. ol13points_in_yer_neck

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    ^^^^in that case what about the liver and stomach lining damage?
     
  3. ol13points_in_yer_neck

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    you have obviously never used heroin or seen or talked to anyone who has. im really not tryin to nitpick or argue. the air you are breathing right now is causing you damage. the food you eat is leaving behind things that will never leave yer body. this computer screen your looking at is changing the way your receptors recieve information. everything in our world is putting our body through things that are less than ideal for its normal functions. all im sayin is that its up to each of us to personally asses these things and weigh all the factors in and decide what is best for us personally.

    "wade in the water,you wontever get wet, if ya keep on doin that rag"
     
  4. Guitar

    Guitar Senior Member

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    yes I have seen plently of heroin addicts and plenty of opiate addicts, opiates don't have any long term damage to your body, unless if you use needles. but anyways, your post didn't really have anything to do with the topic, of course certain everyday things cause a miniscule amount of damage, i'm not saying it doesn't. I just don't see why someone would want to roll everyday.
     
  5. Omacatl

    Omacatl Senior Member

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    liver damage? from cubensis mushrooms? no way, wheres the proof?
    The mushrooms that contain psilocybin and psilocin will not cause liver damage.

    There are other mushrooms that will cause liver damage if eaten. They contain toxins called amatoxins. The mushrooms which contain these toxins are mostly from the genera Amanita, Galerina, Lepiota, and Conocybe. Not psilocybin cubensis.

    no..no..no.
    San Pedro is one of the most nutritious and healthy foods you can eat, it has more tannins and essential nutrients than algae! it contains a chemical called hordenine that kills 13 strains of penicillin resistant bacteria. not to mention all the other phenethylamines and precursors to neurotransmitters essential for mental well being. as far as medicines go San Pedro is a beast!:D drinking tea does not damage the lining of your stomach as its fucking tea? lol

    you may wear the lining of your esophagus a bit when you purge but its not like you are doing this every day. besides the purge is a healthy way to rid the body of toxins and an essential part of the experience.

    and you call molly medicine? seeing as the manipulation of the serotonergic receptors in this manner is so damaging, especially when used less than a few months apart; its not medicine at all. dont kid yourself and make excuses, living life has its risks and things can be damaging, but MDMA is fucking your shit up worse than anything you breathe eat or drink on a day to day basis. you may not recognize it now, but you will someday down the line. it seems with maturity comes moderation.

    i can't even believe you would compare the product of beautiful ancient evolutionary bio-organic synthesis to man's modern day tinkering. millions of years experience is quite a bit over a couple hundred, don't underestimate pachamama fool. :cheers2:
     
  6. ol13points_in_yer_neck

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    points taken. have you read anything about theraputic mdma use? was the whole reason it was ever synthesised. molly can be very medicnal and theraputic if used in the right context. as with any chemical. ive used drugs habitually and ive used drugs theraputicaly. i understand the benifiets and the dangers of drug use. i lived of the streets from the time i was 16 till two years ago. and by streets i mean dead tour, rainbow trail, under bridges in every godforsaken city in this country, som not in this country, junkhole squats,and upper class america. ive seen just about all this country has to offer short of a rich executive lifestyle. people who have been strung out on every mind altering chemical compound under the sun. poision oak is natural. just because man made these things does not make them horrible. drink mushroom tea for a few days and tell me yer liver and kidneys dont hurt.theres no regeneration there. damage done is damage done. if you think spores wont give you ulcers yer obviously not looking at scientific medical evidence. i have an extensive education in mycology both book and hands on. i have nothing but the upmost respect for mushrooms. so much that i dont even eat them anymore. our brain has receptors for all these chemicals wich leads me to believe we are hard wired for these chemicals to alter our conciousness.wether we raise or lower our conciousness is up to us. right now im going through a separation of a 4 year relationship. were both angry and hurt about alot. we have a 2 year old son and we are tryin to figure out whats best for him. mdma has been like therapy in the sense that the one night of the week that im alone with no distractions i can sit down and look at the big picture from a more empathetic view than i can on most other ocasions. and it really helps me to see what truly is best for my son, my ol' lady, and myself. i find it really hard to be selfish when me and molly get together
     
  7. Omacatl

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    yes, and the definition of the theraputic use you are referring to(the studies in the 70s and 80s) involves taking MDMA under the supervision of a liscensed psychotherapist. not sitting back on your couch rolling every week and going over your problems in your head.
    if you are really accomplishing so much then whats the point of every week? it sounds like a form of escapism to me. the real theraputic sessions that took place only needed to happen a couple of times for a lasting impact and the beginning of a self-perception that leads ultimately to the emotional healing of the patient.
    once youve found that perspective why go back so often?
    do you really forget so quickly?

    first of all i would never abuse mushrooms like that nor should anyone. second, where's this 'medical evidence' of psilocybin mushrooms causing liver and kidney damage?
    i asked you earlier for proof; im not saying it's not a possiblity i just have never come across any actual proof of such. the only possible risk of such i could see is cumalatory toxins from the envorionment such as heavy metals beeing leeched into mycelial networks, but that risk is completely eliminated from home-grown specimens.
     

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