Anybody participating in a tea party today?

After doing a little research I guess I agree with you on this issue. The situation in the US and UK are very similiar. I found this article especially informative:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...xploited-to-curb-civil-liberties-1623795.html

All the more reason for Skewed to reply. I'd really love to understand his viewpoint.

 

Doesn't seem like you agree with me.

 

I was trying to say I don't think the UK is any worse than the US currently on civil liberties.

 

That isn't what I think, though. You are pointing towards both being bad.
I don't think that, well atleast for the UK.

 

We don't. You just repeat that because it's what you were told to think.

 

I guess we have to agree to disagree on the tone of message. I do regret losing my private liberties without discussion or determination of how long these revisions will last. But I don't feel like Skewed that the UK is something to be feared, it's like all that uproar about France and Germany when Bush wanted his war in Iraq, meant as a distraction and promoting division between like minded allies.

Thank god you are rid of Tony Blair.

 

Your dad pays less on the amount he earned because people over a certain level of income pay on a reduced rate since Bush's tax cut. They deserve to pay on the total amount of the income the same that the poor people do, not less. Rich paying less is not what this country was based on.

Warren Buffet others spend a smaller percentage of his total income in taxes than his secretaries and support staff.

 

Why should anyone be forced to pay taxes to a corrupt system that murders innocent people? If the people in this country had any balls at all, there would be a mass tax revolt and everyone -- rich and not rich -- would refuse to keep funding their own demise.

And as far as I am concerned, the wealthy shouldn't have to pay taxes any more than those who are not wealthy. If the elitists in Obama's cabinet can get away with not paying their taxes, why should someone who respectfully earns their money have to pay? I have nothing against people who are independently wealthy.

 

Do you pay taxes Rat?

 

The wealthiest 1% pay a third of all income taxes, yet you make it sound like they are getting away scott free while you suffer under a massive tax burden.

 

I do only because I don't want my life ruined by the IRS. Otherwise I would not give one red cent to these criminals.

 

lawl

 

If the poor pay hardly anything, then let's make all those making less than $250,000.00 a year exempt. That would have been quite the economic stimulus. Imagine the big screen tvs purchased.

If you make a hundred dollars and I make only one dollar and our income is all taxable, certainly you pay the larger percentage of total taxes collected, you have the most taxable income. But then you probably ate and dressed better than I did. And you used the roads more because I couldn't afford to go anywhere but back and forth to work.

 

Yes and you can say that right up to the moment you have taxed everybody to North Korean equality.

Do I owe you money gardener? Do you feel entitled to my earnings?

 

Not personally, but if you are using the courts, the roads and the government more than I then yes you need to pay just like I do. And Korea doesn't even factor into the equation. Did you throw that in to build public opinion?

 

What about if we are taxing income and you make 100.00 and I only make one for a whole days work, who pays the most? Doesn't take a rocket scientist does it?

Poor rich guys they are paying more, but every day they are making more. Would they rather the little guy made more?

 

But its the same thing isn't it? You talk about "the poor" and "the rich" but what it really comes down to is that YOU want MY money. You want the government to take it from me and give it to you. At least have the courage to admit it.

 

The nice thing about free societies is incentives and rewards for achievment.

Why would people strive if they could not wear nice clothing or have posessions.

People don't seem to begrudge Beckham, Shaq, Kobe,& Manny thier money because they have met the standards of the marketplace and reaped compensation.

Places like Korea; are important examples of extreme equality enforced by force. and the strangulation of incentives and resulting torpor of society.

Is anybody emigrating to Cuba?

 

This is from a BusinessWeek article called ‘How Bush Widened The Wealth Gap’ 2004.

 

I pay taxes and others reap the benefits and others pay taxes and I reap the benefits.

Communally we can achieve things that benefit everyone and do things that individual cannot or will not do.

It is true that you might not like where some of that money goes but at least in a democracy you can have some influence on that, which is more than can be said under other systems.

And usually the more democratic a state the greater is that influence.