Any Tips or stories?

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by Legocy, Jan 13, 2012.

  1. Raga_Mala

    Raga_Mala Psychedelic Monk

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    I will bow to your superior expertise. Still pretty new with these things. I was only expressing patterns I believe I have seen in my own limited number of trials. (Though I will say I have been stoned enough to know what elements are just coming from a "weed experience" and which ones are novel.)

    I think your experiences are probably more wide-ranging and reliable than my own, in fact I'm sure of it!
     
  2. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    weed can definitely make a trip more "trippy"
    but i don't think it adds anything too deep to the experience. there are times when i'm not sufficiently blown away by a dose, then i smoke a little weed and am instantly perma-grinning.
     
  3. ganjabomber

    ganjabomber Senior Member

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    ahhh weed and acid.. what can be said about ye? yea, its not gunna make there be more psychedelics in your blood. if youre tripping pretty hard, especially if youre still coming up, smoking a doob will make your thoughts flow faster and in less of a particular direction. i really enjoy this, but on "low" doses[~100ug]. im sure if i were taking like 8 or 10 hits i wouldn't be as ready to smoke weed.. to each his own, i love weed on psychs.
     
  4. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    seems like weed doesn't do much to me if i'm tripping on a tryptamine. my first time eating shroooms (first trip ever) i remember smoking a lot of weed, and not really thinking anything special about it. the shroom (+ weed) trip was awesome though. but i'm saying, i'm sure it would have been (almost) just as awesome without weed. and my last trip on 4-aco-dmt, i wasn't tripping that hard, and i smoked a lot of bongs, and it didn't really help.

    on acid i find weed can do all sorts of things, from set off a latent trip, enhance a low dose, confuse the fuck outta me on a higher dose...but it does probably add a bit of cloudiness to the trip too, so for that reason i usually try to abstain until past the peak.

    as far as 2ce and 2cb (the phenethylamines i've tried), weed plays VERY well with them, enhancing just about everything i think..and treating the accompanying nausea
     
  5. Black_Lotus

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    I saw weed on the comedown make the acid experience higher, it kind of rebooted some of the effects of acid. At the come-up though, it just seemed to make it foggy, really was a weed + acid experience, where as on the comedown it just felt like acid. Pretty fun combination though!

    Also, it kind of depends on how you use the drug, a party out with your friends will likely have a different experience than meditating or simply being alone on acid and/or weed. I'd recommend trying it though! It didn't feel entirely "new" to me, it was kind of like a confusion of whether I was witnessing the effects of weed or acid, they kind of went in cycles, but it's fun!
     
  6. Raga_Mala

    Raga_Mala Psychedelic Monk

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    For the sake of completeness in my "data" I should clarify the following details. I have smoked weed a lot of times ("a lot" to one person may not be so many to another...), but I am not by any means a daily stoner. I think folks who stone daily are (a) more accustomed to the weed headspace--for instance, I could never go to class stoned but I know people who can; and (b) of course a neurochemical tolerance builds up.
    A lot of trippers/psychonauts tend to also be stoners to a greater or lesser extent, so I would speculate that for people that spend more of their "baseline" time high on weed, the weed synergy or added effects might seem more negligible while tripping. For instance, porkstock reports smoking several bongs while on shrooms...it is very rare for me to smoke multiple bongs' worth. (It has happened, but not often).
    This is all a way of saying that getting high on weed is not a *regular* neurochemical state for me, so although I know well what the weed experience is, it is still noticeable off-baseline for me.
    Thus, the effects *added* by weed to a psychedelic experience (some of which are unlike just-weed effects, suggesting some kind of synergy), I might experience those more acutely.
    I am merely suggesting a possible mechanism by which I am reporting such a stronger reaction to weed-mixing than others seem to be.

    [A couple other possible reasons:
    My highest-dose/most psychedelic trip has not been that high: I have never had any kind of true hallucinations, for instance. Thus, since the spectrum of my experiences is narrower, I attribute greater magnitude to smaller variations.
    To someone who has tripped on 500+ mcg's of 'cid, the difference between a low-dose cid trip and a low-dose cid trip plus weed may be negligible, to me the difference spans a wide swathe of what I have experienced]
     
  7. Raga_Mala

    Raga_Mala Psychedelic Monk

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    This resonates with my experience as well. Actually, that is a good way of describing it.

    (When I initially mentioned smoking on the come-up, notice I have said my best experiences were just one or two hits of weed...again, for me one or two hits are actually noticeable, to some people that is quite literally nothing, but in any case I agree: I don't like the clouding phenomenon during the come-up, but a little calming weed-substrate helps the come up go better for me.)
     
  8. guerillabedlam

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    Quality post, I rarely smoke weed these days and I definitely relate with the idea of acutely feeling the effects of weed when used in combination with psychedelics.
     
  9. upperlevel

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    I have smoked weed only once while not on LSD, twice while on it, I never liked the weed high, always seems dirty to me and I never really gain anything from it.
    SO I can also relate to weed having clear and strong effects on LSD, but it doesn't take me deeper the way that just taking more LSD would have.
     
  10. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    quality post. i would agree that to an occasional smoker, weed's effects are more noticeable. tripping or not.

    also i think weed's effects are more noticeable with say 100 ug of LSD than they would be with 400 ug. writer has compared it to throwing a pebble into a hurricane. where 100 ug is more like a raindrop + a pebble.


    i smoke everyday, but one or two hits is noticeable for me too. it's all i need to get high really. my bowlhead only really holds two good hits, so multiple bowls isn't a lot.

    you have only smoked three times?! wow
     
  11. upperlevel

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    I'm just not a smoker, and I don't really like 'getting high'. That's why I also don't like low dose LSD or mushroom trips because they just make me feel high, I like to be fully immersed in a very deep experience.
     
  12. Legocy

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    Im almost the same way, except im extremely picky with my weed, only like certain types of high from it.
     
  13. upperlevel

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    Everyone is different and I hope that you guys don't think I am saying I'm somehow better than you or that I am doing the right thing. I just don't really enjoy weed or any other substances really other than LSD and mushrooms so far from what I have tried.
     
  14. baldykips

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    I know what you mean bro. I used to smoke every day and my first experiences with shrooms and Lucy included weed. After smoking a joint the effects would heighten for about 10 minutes and then after I'd feel all fuzzy and a bit anxious. I've stopped smoking due to really bad anxiety and depression and I must say that trips for me feel a lot cleaner without it.
     
  15. Legocy

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    Last weekend me and my friends did shrooms, 2 of them smoked and went almost litterally insane. They went into a room with a black light and smoked, and made like a 10 minute video. Me and my friend just went through nature, when we got back after it was done, we met up with them and they didnt even know they made the video, it was just them saying random shit and completely crazy.

    Part of me wants to try that another doesnt lol.
     
  16. Legocy

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    Also sorry if this was already asked, but can anyone tell me the exact difference between how LSD and Shrooms effect you, cause a friend wanted to try LSD one night, and follow by shrooms the next, but i just wanted to make sure he wouldnt get boned.
     
  17. Mr.Writer

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    They have very little in common, you would never mistake one experience for the other. For example shrooms is only about half to 2/3 as long as acid. There are a lot of differences, it sounds like your friend doesn't know much about them.

    He'll get boned by not having done his research and realizing that doing LSD one night will make the shrooms the next night probably not work. They both affect the same part of your brain in the same ways so one builds up tolerance to the other, you really should wait *minimum* one week between serotonergic trips.

    Google will give you many websites that describe the difference, and that describe the trips in general. He should have read lots of erowid mushrooms trip reports for example. Here's a thread from this very forum discussing the differences

    http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=437098&f=48

    Research :)
     
  18. Black_Lotus

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    All psychedelics carry a cross tolerance, so taking LSD day one, and shrooms day two will carry little to no effect
     
  19. Legocy

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    Thats exactly what I tried explaining to him, he just wanted to read it from you guys first.
     
  20. Black_Lotus

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    I think if you double up day two it should work tho, people from the 70s claimed to be able to trip 3-4 days in a row. So if you did 2 tabs of acid day one, day 2 -4, day 3 -8, day 4 -16, the 16 would be the same effect as the -2 on day 1. I read this on bluelight, so I can't speak from experience, but if he wants to do LSD day one, and shrooms day two, he may be able to pull it off if he does enough shrooms day two, but I think the effects may still be dulled at best
     

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