Antifastan

You go girl!

 

Why are they still trashing Portland for?

The rest of the country already forgot about it

 

What a lazy name for a city. "There's port..."
"Land it then"

Places named by Lazy captains built on trade and equality and later a haven for free thought.. not free of oppression enough.

That is honestly the most I've thought about Portland.

 

You present quite a mixed bag, most which has no direct bearing on "terrorists".

This incident, while tragic, does not involve what's usually regarded as "terrorism". A woman and her husband got into an argument with a group of people over BLM. She said "All lives matter'. Somebody got pissed off and shot her. Tragic, yes, but no indication BLM members were even involved. Terrorism is the calculated use of violence to create a general climate of fear in a population and thereby to bring about a particular political objective. No indication that was involved.

This involved a random killing in which an 8 year old was the victim--in the wrong place at the wrong time. He was a victim of criminal behavior, but not terrorism. And no indication BLM was involved

Here we may be getting to terrorism. But was the suspect a BLM member? He was angry about police killings of black men. He was aware of BLM.

David Dorn was murdered by rioters while defending a friend's business.

So now its Antifa. Trump has declared Antifa a terrorist oranization, but there is no evidence that the organization has carried out a politically motivated attack resulting in death.
President Trump Has Reenergized Portland’s Protests

I see accusations that "a mob" and demonstrations were responsible for setting the office on fire, but nothing specific about affiliations. Nor does this mob action rise to the level that is usually considered terrorism.

 

Because Trump wants to keep it alive.
President Trump Has Reenergized Portland’s Protests
Things in Portland were getting better, until Trump made them worse ... deliberately
Federal Agents Unleash Militarized Crackdown on Portland
Trump Unleashes His Secret Police in Portland
'Like Adding Gasoline': Oregon Officials Blast Trump Response To Portland Protests
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...out-portland-trump-officials-wont-listen-why/

 

You can deny reality all you want. But in the end you cannot deny the consequences of denying reality.

Murder is not a requirement for being a terrorist.

 

This seems to be true.

But don't confuse the opportunity/possibility of misnaming these groups with reality. It seems a little to me like they don't really fit in the shoebox you're trying to put them into.

 

There is no evidence that Antifa is trying to use violence to create a general climate of fear in a population--the essence of terrorism--as opposed to protesting in the aftermath of George Floyd's death. Antifa is itself a loose collection of sub-groups. Some of the groups active in Portland identify as Antifa, but there are others, as well, including mothers in helmets. Antifa is a convenient catchall label for your right wing sources to whip up sentiment against the protests. "Terrorism" might better describe the actions by Trump and his secret police in rekindling violence in the name of law and order.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-accused-deploying-secret-police-portland-political-stunt-1518595
Portland Protestors Are Being Abducted In Unmarked Vans — Here’s What’s Really Going On
House Democrats call for an investigation into Trump's use of force against protestors in Portland
The Trump Administration Is Deploying “Secret Police” Against Protesters in Portland
Portland protests: Federal agents in unmarked cars and walls of moms
Portland Is What Trump's America Will Look Like If He's Reelected
Trump consults Bush torture lawyer on how to skirt law and rule by decree
President Donald Trump is a Terrorist | HuffPost

 

“They are not terrorists” -Tish

 

“Nothing to see here! These are peaceful protestors” -Tish

Officials: Man cut brake line of NYPD van

 

If Antifa didn't exist, Six, Trump, and the Identiatrian right would have to invent it. When the group tried to meet nationally, they topped out at a few hundred. Yet they are the favorite bugbear of right wing boogaloo shit stirrers: “Tonight’s the night, Comrades,” with a brown raised-fist emoji and “Tonight we say 'F--- The City' and we move into the residential areas... the white hoods.... and we take what's ours …” That message appeared on twitter on May 31, 2020--supposedly from Antifa, but actually traced to the right wing identitarian group Identity Evropa (aka American Identity Movement. QAnon, Boogloo Bois, and Proud Bois are among the right wing loonies feeding the Anti-antifa frenzy. Antifa sitings are becoming as common as UFO and Bigfoot sitings in Trump country. On June 2, Trump sent out an email. "ANTIFA. Dangerous MOBS of far-left groups are running through our streets and causing absolute mayhem. They are DESTROYING our cities and rioting — it’s absolute madness.” Yes, yes it is.
The Right Is Falling for Its Own Fake Antifa Accounts
The GOP Politician Spreading Terrifying BLM and Antifa Hoaxes
6 examples of fake news about antifa
Antifa bus hoax spreads panic across the US
White supremacists pose as Antifa online, call for violence - CNN
https://www.truthorfiction.com/is-antifa-renting-u-hauls-to-infiltrate-residential-neighborhoods/

 

Seems like the rioters' terrorism methods are working to get police to fear for their lives and their families

I Quit: Police Officers Across U.S. Resign
Police Poll: 71 Percent of DC Police Force Might Resign

This is the definition of terrorism

 

"But they aren't real terrorists. They are peaceful." -Tishomingo

 

Given your past record as an identitarian troll, your credibility is gapping.
False antifa rumors about a suburban invasion take over neighborhood social media apps
The Small-Town Antifa Invasion That Never Came
How Antifa Became The Bogeyman Of George Floyd Protests
Eugene, OR Alt-Right Trolls Behind 'Boston Antifa' Exposed - It's Going Down
Fake Antifa Twitter Accounts Are Trolling People And Spreading Misinformation
Fake Boston Antifa group is run by right wing trolls

 

As Trump's poll numbers sag, he and his fans turn desperately to the Nazi playbook: the Reichstag fire! The Nazi identitarians accused the Comintern of the act, but historians think it was a Nazi false flag operation. In any event, the incident became the basis for Hitler's consolidation of power under the pretext of combating the Communist menace. History may be about to repeat itself. I believe that Trump and his quislings are looking for a similar pretext. The useful idiots of the far left may be about to provide him one by stunts like CHAZ/ CHOP and the Portland riots. But I'm sure they can scare one up without the left's cooperation!
Is This Trump’s Reichstag Fire Moment?
Trump's Reichstag Fire Is Here, And It's Going To Burn For The Next Nine Months
‘Trump’s Reichstag Fire’: Ex-GOP operative Steve Schmidt explains why Republicans have ‘blood on their hands’
Donald Trump will use this moment to fan the flames of hatred, just like every other moment
Beware a Trump Reichstag Fire | HuffPost
Will Trump Have His Own Reichstag Fire?
Donald Trump plunges democracy into a three-alarm fire of corruption
How To Deal with Reichstag Fire Fears in the Age of Trump

 

Six tends to be vague about his facts. For those wondering where this happened, it was Seattle. The group wielding baseball bats was not identified! I can certainly believe it happened. My sisters encountered a similar group back in 1999 at the Seattle protest of WTO. . The protest started out relatively peaceful, but deteriorated after a group of black masked anarchists showed up and started smashing things, triggering a police riot. Was this Antifa? Who knows? That name wasn't used back then in the U.S., Antifa in this country being generally dated to 2007. Was the group with the bats the officer is talking about Antifa? She doesn't say. Nobody else does either.

Once again Six plies his trade as a propagandist, using the example of a single wrongdoer to try to tar a movement. The man in question was seen among the Occupy City Hall protesters, and was caught trying to cut the brake lines of an NYPD van. He is obviously a criminal who should be sent to prison. Does this mean that all the Occupy City Hall protestors were criminals who should be sent to prison? Hardly logical!

 

Ok, I'm not going to bother reading any of those links, as you probably didnt

Floyd died on the 25th May

When did the Federal Troops appear in Portland? Last week?

So does a headline saying Trump "reenergized" the Portland protests refer to him sending in troops.....6 friggin weeks later???

 

"Robert McElvaine, Contributor
Historian, writer, feminist and progressive activist"

Lolz, he's a self proclaimed feminist is he?

 

LOTZ! Talk about Deflection! Six's metholdology is contagious. You pick out one contributor, pick out something about him you find questionable, and ignore the substance of what is being said. (for the curious, McElvane was the author of the Huff Post link, fifth from the top, fourth from the bottom. Significantly, VG doesn't comment on the content of the article. He can't get pat the feminism part). McIlvaine is professor of an endowed chair, Chairman of the history department at Millsap's College, and award-winning author of seven books. It's as bad as Six's (Post#224) "BLM organizer" in Jackson,NH (population 996, 99.6% white). Absurd! Do Aussie gorillas find the notion of a male feminist to be so amusing that the mere mention of one writer in a list of eight links is a conversation stopper? What are you, some kinda gay Crocodile Dundee? Go back to your tree.