Anti-Male Bias all around us.

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As I said, statistics can be used to prove anything. I was not using financial status as an excuse for crime, I wanted to know if it was taken into account in the stats you reported. Any statistical report is influenced by the person or persons compiling the data, and should therefor be taken with a grain of salt.
Men and women share equal blame in societal problems. To blame one gender(women), or group(feminists) is scapegoating and an attempt to take the blame, or co-blame off of oneself.
Yes, US courts tend to be gender biased towards the mother. This is due in large part to the tendency of men to be the absent parent.
Instead of quoting stats and finding someone to blame, lets look for answers. Lets teach our children (girls and boys) the importance of responsibility.
Lets worry about teaching our children how to be adults instead of "how to be a man". Or "how to be a proper woman".
We are all human, lets work on uniting under that rather than dividing along gender lines. This goes for Ultra-Feminists and Ultra-Machismo alike.

 

Jesus! that makes for very frustrating reading. Is there the beginning of a turn around in attitudes in the academic world?

 

And again I state. Income is irrelevant in this situation. Let it go. The statistics that I provided come from the current (at the time) prison population. You cannot think of them as needing to be taken with a grain of salt because they are real numbers. No mathematical calculations. Just basically a head count. There is a difference between that and a questionaire. A big difference.

Boys NEED to be taught how to be good men.
Girls NEED to be taught how to be good women.

Teach them to be adults? If both genders have good role models they will be good adults. But, there are too many differences between male and females of our species to disregard during the formative years. My proof is in the numbers I provided.
I commend you for your compassion. I agree with you to an extent. But it's a deeper understanding of oneself as a male or female that is lacking in western society. This lack of reality to so many people is partially to blame for the male bashing in the western world.

I gave answers. Male bashing needs to end. Feminism needs to be seen as the poison it is. Kids need both biological parents. Women need to learn accountability and stop blaming men for all their own errors. They also need to learn what humble means.
Men need to demand more respect for themselves. They need to stand up to the lies that have been spread for the last forty years. The hardest part that I see men coming to terms with is that they NEED, more then anything, to accept that their father was a piece of shit and that their mother should've fucked somebody else. But she didn't, he is an ass, and you STILL need to be man enough to take care of your own children. Find a way to make the relationship work.
Both male and female alike need to work hrder at making relationships work. They need to understand that compromise is not 50/50. Compromise is the solution that makes everyone the happiest.

 

I agree with the point that anti-male attitude is increasing in America, especially in media. Even if you see the ads, one of them goes something like this:
A man gets ready and his wife tells him that there is a stain on his shirt. He rubs it off and makes it worse or something like that.
then the female narrator says, "Men have their way of cleaning, and We have ours"

And the woman uses her product and looks smarter than the guy.

A pathetic marketing strategy, but sequestering to the anti-male and "being a woman is special" attitude brings the company money.

 

Women yell there are no equal rights, but they are wrong. Women get special treatment everywhere- except maybe in the army. Even when I was applying to medical schools... I would get rejected but a woman with the same qualifications as me would get accepted , why? One reason my friends, she has the female genatalia. I had to work twice as hard as any woman to get into med school- not that I have anything against women, I am just stating what I have experienced.

 

okay, i've just decided my new least favorite topic. :tongue:

 

Well coming from woman-


i think the world is coming down to frig all.

I meet half way in the middle

Some women take advantage of men by;

Taking their children away
abuse
courts
stealing
lying
being maniplative
etc etc the list goes on
While man...
has the bad name for abuser.... the woman sometime put blame on the man for hitting yelling screaming and what happens
CHARGE
FINE
NO rights for custody access
child support
they get the shitty part of the stick
like slaves
I can go on
but i won't
I'll just meet half way

If the world was a better place and more peaceful than life would be easier right?

 

uhm...women removing men from children's lives. That is RARELY the case. I am an area director for the boys and girls clubs and have the statistics of my families. All of my fatherless kids are fatherless because their dads are hooked on drugs, are in jail or lost custody for physical abuse. We have a food bank that does outreach and the majority of the recipients are mothers who work 2 or 3 jobs and thechild's father does not pay child support.
I do know that women keeping their children from the child's dad happens. It happened to my fiance with his daughter and my family hid me from my dad as well. My family did it for my benefit. Andy's daughter's mom is just a vindictive bitch.
But yeah in the majority of cases the men are falling short and women are forced to compensate.
I still blame women for sleeping with dirt bags though. I would like to say I am innocent of ever doing that, but I am not. I have slept with two men who would not have the financial means or maturity to raise a child. I had no buisness lowering my standards to that level. It was a disgrace to women everywhere and I let the female gender down. I also feel like I let my fiance down because I slept with men in the past who aren't up to the standard he knows I am worthy of and makes sure he holds himself at. I am ashamed for sleeping with immature men-absolutley ashamed. I would die of embarassment if Andy met any of my serious ex-boyfriends because I think he would think less of me. I really let myself down and women in general down for making such poor choices in the past.

 

Also women make us kill spiders for them, and the bad karma for killing all of those spiders is then on us, and we get reincarnated as fungus or a rock.
Thanks.

 

i dont' kill spiders

we had a daddy long leg visit my dorm room quite a bit, i named him fred. my roomates g/f was scared of fred. she wanted him to be dead. i yelled at her for trying to kill fred. then i picked fred up and put him outside. its what i usually did, but he hasn't been around lately, cuz its been getting cold out

 

I agree. I used to agree with affirmative action, but I no longer do. I am becoming more and more conservative the older I get. I am a woman from a single parent household and I have had to work my ass of in school and getting to where I am at work. I think other women should have to do the same.

I am also aware that once I get pregnant or have to move for Andy's work it will be my choice whether or not I want to work. I have the best of both worlds. I am so grateful for that.
I do sacrifice for that though. I do have to understand i am not safe in Reno at night. I have to have someone walk me to my car at work because the neighborhood is so bad. If I even just go to the post office downtown I get hollared at by the grungy men there. In our small town I get gawked at continuously. I feel self-concious goingint he grocery store after work in Fernley because if I am dressed up I feel like I am causing a freaking spectacle. People just freaking stare. It makes my anxiety problems sky rocket.
So there are a lot of avantages to being a woman and I am lucky I have choices, never have to pay for dinner, have a fiance who bought me a huge rock, a car and gives me as many hugs and kisses as I want , but I think he does so not only because he loves me, but because he knows I have been through a lot because of my gender.

 

I kill the spiders.

 

uhm...women removing men from children's lives. That is RARELY the case. I am an area director for the boys and girls clubs and have the statistics of my families. All of my fatherless kids are fatherless because their dads are hooked on drugs, are in jail or lost custody for physical abuse. We have a food bank that does outreach and the majority of the recipients are mothers who work 2 or 3 jobs and thechild's father does not pay child support.
I do know that women keeping their children from the child's dad happens. It happened to my fiance with his daughter and my family hid me from my dad as well. My family did it for my benefit. Andy's daughter's mom is just a vindictive bitch.
But yeah in the majority of cases the men are falling short and women are forced to compensate.
I still blame women for sleeping with dirt bags though. I would like to say I am innocent of ever doing that, but I am not. I have slept with two men who would not have the financial means or maturity to raise a child. I had no buisness lowering my standards to that level. It was a disgrace to women everywhere and I let the female gender down. I also feel like I let my fiance down because I slept with men in the past who aren't up to the standard he knows I am worthy of and makes sure he holds himself at. I am ashamed for sleeping with immature men-absolutley ashamed. I would die of embarassment if Andy met any of my serious ex-boyfriends because I think he would think less of me. I really let myself down and women in general down for making such poor choices in the past.
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Bella- Just because you work with boys and girls and with families in your vacinity doesn't mean that your stats are correct for all the world. If the person who stated the stats in the other post got what he searched for a EDU site obviously its accurate. Men are no worse than women .... were human..

 

he said she said i do you do just close the stupid thred

 

I worked for the clubs in San Diego and I also know the national average statistics as I used to teach parenting classes to single mothers I'm not trying to be a know-it-all...I just kinda am.

 

Wow bella someone conceded!! you just are!! well count up everyone in the world than tell me the average jo blow that screws up. I bet you its the mother because they play mind games with the children. Oh so innocent women... But of course do you know womens side the mans side the truth no you just taught parenting classes..

FYI;
i was a TA and am a enhance worker respite provider and going for social work so i'll be more than happy to show more stats

 

i wonder how many men feel that way?

 

yeppers. I have a high opinion of myself. What can I say?
Like I said. Womens houldn't sleep with people they don't want to father their child-problem solved. If we get to decide when to abort a fetus we need to be fair and demonstrate responsiblity with who we sleep with. Our bodies-our descion...okay then it is also our bodies and our fault.
Id o see the suckiness Andy goes through from his daughter's mom keeping her from him for numerous years and raising her to be a brat. I couldn't imagine her acting the way she does if Andy had at least half physical custody. It does irritate me that he pays a great deal of child support but gets no say in how she is raised.
All I can tell him is that he'll get 100 percent of the say with our kids as I know he will be an awesome dad. I am a grown women and he healed all of my wounds from my dad being absent so I totally trust that he is the right man to father my kids. I feel almost guilty saying this, but I am partially glad his daughter's mom is so awful because he and I will get to start fresh with making a new family and I know he will want to toally make up for missed time through our own daughter.

 

What do you mean by that?

 

i just meant i can't imagine a man saying that.