(Copy/pasted from another forum.) Most guys at some point will have been called a misogynist (by your average vile arrogant commoner female), for saying pretty fair and reasonable stuff, that's not even hateful. Like mentioning how women steal unfairly from fathers in divorces. Or mentioning that females do not get paid less than males, it's just a lie made by feminists. And you will be called that, even if at the time you were saying this, you could not be called a misogynist. Some guys only started into this whole area very slowly, starting off with the standard stereotypes that society has because as a child you absorb all of this stuff and don't get a chance to verify it for yoursel. Those kind of guys may be thinking "yeah sure women in other countries have it worse off, but over here they have some things better too". This kind of "proto-misogynist" guy might have female friends which they would gladly have defended from anti-female sexism... if there were any to defend them from. (which there isn't these days). And outside of the area of gender issues, he might have been a good potential friend to the females he knew. Like just ordinary every day stuff, what normal friendships are based on, acceptance, good advice, letting people be themselves... And yet still after all that, be called a misogynist, when all of these qualities were apparant. Well, that doesn't seem to make sense, does it? This kind of "proto-misogynist" guy might easily think "how can I be a misogynist if I like females? All I want is equality. All I did was mention the truth." But the reality really is that she was right. He *is* a misogynist for daring to speak any truth about females, unguarded with more lies. That's the catch. You can speak a truth about females, but only if you guard it with more lies, so the truth does not break out into something larger. And even speaking that "lie-guarded-truth" is taking a big risk that should only be taken in dire circumstances. Like Bob Geldof seeing the dire circumstances for fathers, and speaking his "lie-guarded-truths" about females today. His "lie-guarded-truths" of how females can easily steal and ruin an innocent man's life, unncessarily, for the harm of the children and society in general, for some temporary financial gain. One of his lies that guarded these truths were that men are naturally silent and unsocial, and women expect too much of them to get communication from them. It works like this. Imagine this: A dam. A big, concrete dam. 3 meters high, 4 meters deep, and kilometers across. This dam, is the dam of female lies. The lies of how females are oppressed today, underpaid at work, ignored by authorities, undervalued at home, etc. The lies of how females have been oppressed throughout all history. The lies of how females are naturally more talented, honest, and creative than males. The lies of how females are naturally healthier, tougher and more pain resistant than males. The lies that GO ON FOREVER AND ENCIRCLE THE UNIVERSE. The lies of females. A dam of lies, stopping the truth from coming out. An ocean of truth. The truth that females have oppressed males throughout all history. That it is males who get sexually mutilated at birth. Abused more by their parents. Thrown out onto the streets. Disfigured by female's sexual selection into hairy cavemen simply because females like to make other human beings suffer and we are a convenient target. Expected to work a life to pay and protect and provide for ungrateful hateful small-minded heartless fake evil monsters who only exist to drain the life energy out of our beings, scorning us and getting us into trouble or death the whole way along. And that truth is misogynist. That is the truth. The truth is too awful for almost anyone to believe in. And yet all of it can be proven with solid down-to-earth logic. Knowing that truth would leave any fair person unable to feel anything else but hate for females. You see, in life, for your actions you must pay. And this payment requires first for your actions to be known. Females, have caused such evil actions over all of history, that for them to pay would probably destroy them. Or at least make existance pure hell for them. And this hell females have indebted themselves into, requires the truth for it to come about. So, yes, by speaking the truth, you are being a misogynist. You might not think it much to question to your much appreciated female friends, something so harmless as "women don't really get paid less now, do they?".... But that question is a hole in the dam. If you don't guard that hole with more lies, more lies forming the concrete of this dam, you are risking more holes appearing. Then small cracks in the dam of female lies. And soon enough the whole thing will break. So, for those females to call you a misogynist for speaking such innocent truths... They are right. They are absolutely 100% right. It's just that for you to realise they were right to call you a misogynist, would require you to learn just how big their dam of lies is. You were only able to see a small fraction. But females felt the whole thing, because they are the dam, the lies are them, because females made it. I think feminists and females in general, since the 1960s, KNEW that unless they did something drastic, the truth would come out. After all females were given a superior position in society (all of the privileges like working/voting, but none of the responsibilities like having to pay or fight to protect and provide for men.) If females could not measure up to males after all of that, people might start to ask. "Why"? Why is it that females cannot measure up in the brain and "heart" (determination) department? Awkward questions for you females, eh? Especially awkward when you know the awful truth, because you FEEL IT in your very being every DAMN DAY, but you REFUSE to let the truth out. The truth that females are stupider and weaker than males, because you have made us do everything for you over all of history. And so you have atrophied over generations, losing the abilities to think and work, that you never used. Atrophied, just as parasites do. And you, female, you KNEW this all along, deep in your heart, you knew this. You might have not had the words, or understood consciously, but instinctively you KNEW this. You have forced us into this by saying "If you don't give us your possessions, suffer to please my sick desires, and give me your soul, I won't give you any children". How you females have made us into their torture-dolls to manipulate into a life of suffering. Wow. What you have done is pure evil. No wonder you didn't want the truth to come out, now that a fair comparison of males to females in modern society would naturally lead to discovering this. So, in the 1960's, feminists and females in general did something drastic to stop the truth from coming out. They stopped us thinking, and talking. They harmed the minds of us males (hatred via the media, society, and school teachers) so that we could not think for ourselves. They blocked up and took control of the media so that we could not talk to each other as only pro-female anti-male topics were allowed. ... The only problem with all of this, is that it only ups the stakes. In life, you must pay for your actions. You can delay it by building up your debt, but that only gives you a bigger payment in the future. Eventually the force pulling you in the other direction, making you have to pay, will become so strong that you cannot fight it back. It's started already, with men getting sick and fed up of the divorce laws and unfairness there. But I will make sure that it does not stop there. Females will pay for making males suffer through all of human history. See my other postings on "Females reversing evolution" for what I am talking about having made us suffer. I will be the Goddess slayer. This is part of my destiny.
you ARE a misogynist because of that wonderful post i quoted in my signature. protesting injustice is one thing, being a hater is quite another. and NOW you've turned incredibly creepy with the goddess slayer and hateful attitude. take the meds, they're good for you. don't become a serial killer, man. you'll just end up in prison finding out how incredibly abusive some men can be.
I am sure the census bureau has an agenda to promote higher pay for women as a scheme against men- that's where the statistic that women's median income is $30,724 vs. men's median income of $40,668 in 2003. http://www.usatoday.com/money/workplace/2004-08-26-women_x.htm As I said earlier, hate filled posts only reflect the hate that is within- I hope you will learn to let go of your hate and find peace. BTW, many of my friends are male, they are wonderful people who respect themselves and others, not depending on gender. I do not know any of my male friends who would agree with your posts- you aren't representing the male perspective, only your own. Peace and love
A few possible reasons for that. 1) Because their minds are enslaved by females. 2) Because if any of them did speak the truth, you'd reject them even if they were a great person. 3) Perhaps they are just lying to you, in a cynical attempt to win your favour? If males are going to risk dying for sex, they might lie that they support feminism. 4) Perhaps they are simply insane and sadistic? Perhaps they like creating unfair anti-male roles, in the hope that they can harm other males by enforcing unfair roles on them, not realising that it hurts them too... This sort of thing is so common. If in a totally different area, you have have a billion thugs scattered across countries, all of which think they are gonna be the top-dog, not realising their life would be better if they just quit the game... then why can't the same thing apply to enforcing feminism upon innocent males? Perhaps they can't see that by supporting your unfairness, they are spelling their own doom. Also, the male perspective is not reliant upon your friends. It just is. Perhaps your friends do not represent the male perspective, and I do. The truth is the truth you see. If everyone in the world is against the truth, and one person is for it, it is still the truth. Most people are in self-denial, sadly. "I am sure the census bureau has an agenda to promote higher pay for women as a scheme against men" Glad you are finally seeing the truth. Women control all the formal institutions of power. You know the stupidest thing about female attitudes, is how insane they are. Even my own mother admins she is being paid the same amount as her male colleagues, and yet she says that "Women are underpaid, cos the government says so". Sigh. Stupid bitch.
lol. You need to take your meds, and you are a hater. Please don't become a serial killer, woman. You'll just end up in hell finding out how incredibly abusive your soul is, the hard way, seeing as reason wouldn't work on you and the only thing you listen to us pain.
Dude, I'm not a feminist. That is a really funny claim, b/c most of my male friends view me as "one of the guys (according to my fiance and his brother-in-law)" and completely opposite the "typical" female. Or in my fiance's words, "you act like a dude more than a chick anyways." He sure got a laugh at your post. I'm no stereotype, but of course I don't expect you to see that. I see men and women as equals, maybe not in a physical way, but emotionally, socially, and intellectually. (In fact, at one time, I viewed most girls in my high school as dumb bitches, but then I grew up.) I think it's rather funny that in your perspective all women are feminists and men MUST be labeled as misogynist. The world ain't black and white- but have a great time with your hatred. It's sure to be a companion that will never leave you. Peace and love
I, too, would like to know about your mother, reflout. Is it possible you have some unresolved anger with her that you are taking out on other women?
Men in general do not have my respect. Men who treat me like I am feminine do. I would like to know your educational and career background. Please enlighten me on how you could possibley be more intelligent than me. I am curious. Also, my fiance does determine how he expects me to act and what he defines as feminine behavior and I follow what he expects because it adheres to my morals and always ends up making sense. However, I will not allow men who have no personal investment in me to attribute to my defining chracteristics. To me being feminine means respecting the men in your life who are masculine and take responsibility for your short comings and being feminine is respecting those men and trying to follow their rules. I would never date a mysogonist and I would never marry a man who put me down or put down my gender as a whole. I would also never be with a man who doesn't have the ability to support me financialy, emotionaly and physicaly, because I wouldn't be able to respect their masculinity, thus I would be able to meet what their ideal of feminitiy is. You my friend are not masculine, you are an ass. You have no ability to obtain a woman of the femine standards you set, thus you are bitter. Maybe you should concentrate of building your own masculinity and then you can worry about the standards you set for feminitiy.
oh please! where are the women supposed to go chat in secret then??? lol. No thanks I like my seperated bathrooms.
Reflout and Confuzzled? I think they're both one guy come back to haunt us. And that guy is the woman-hating FeralAnarchy (I'm sure he's gone by other names). But maybe I'm wrong.
A bathroom is supposed to be for excretion of wastes, not idle gossip. I'm sure there are other places to go for a private chat. Anyways, I don't like hearing people's personal life story while I'm taking a crap either. Peace and love
Bella, you are really weird... Of course so is OP, but I'm convinced he might be joking. P.S. I never thought I'd prefer to not have someone's respect. But that came to pass! lol
psycho haters! they're really fun, i think. and i'm thinking reflout is about 17 or 18 and still a virgin.
You aren't a feminist because you are a woman. That's a lie you made up. You are a feminist because you are a liar. You lie about the wage gap for a start. I suppose you also believe women have been oppressed for thousands of years, when in fact the truth is that males have been oppressed for thousands of years and females have had a free ride for entire human history. Sadly, your companion, which is lies and delusion, WILL leave you. And when it does, your new companion will be grief and misery, for having self-destroyed, as all delusional people do. This whole world is destroying itself, slowly, but surely, due to it's lies. But lies don't have to be big ones about environment to lead to self-destruction, it can just be personal beliefs, like that women are being underpaid... Peace and hate
I like it how you prove yourself to be a man hater. And guess what? DO the women here set you straight? They come to the defence of the innocent men you attack? NOPE! When a woman sees another woman attacking an innocent man, she joins in the attack, and blames the innocent man. When a man sees another man attacking an innocent woman, he defends the innocent woman. Now, if we had equality, women would defend men from women. But women instead do the opposite. They defend evil women from innocent men. This proves that most females are evil. If we lived on a planet where most females are good, most women would defend innocent men from nasty women. But you didn't do that here. We see a nasty anti-male bitch... and does any women here take "Bella" to task for it? And yet you women who refuse to defend males from nasty females, STILL want to tell us you have any goodness in your being, despite proving that you have none?