Anti-Global Warming Propaganda Goes Here

The way to look at Global Warming, is to look at it as GLOBAL POLLUTION, which is a much more ACCURATE description of what MAN has done to create this scenario.

Ever since I was a KID, I was taken aback by the amount of pollution being spewed everyday into our environment. Even as a KID, I knew this was WRONG.

I grew up in NYC in the 1950s & 1960s, which besides London was the MOST POLLUTED city in the world at that time. Everyday I'd walk to school and breathe in the most noxious fumes from cars (no catalytic converters back then, really bad).

I realized then that my generation needed to do something about it because if we didn't those fumes were just going to PILE UP in our atmosphere and eventually we'd be breathing them ALL THE TIME, with no escape.

Then in my 20s I traveled the world, and saw how the WHOLE WORLD was adding their share to the pollution. I saw huge piles of plastic garbage wash up on Bali's beaches because the Balinese never had to deal with non-biodegradable materials until recently.

So I saw how ill-equipped the rest of the world, esp. the Third World was to deal with new forms of pollution that didn't exist before in their societies.

So the fact that MAN POLLUTES the environment is indeed a no-brainer.
The fact that this pollution adds up and IMPACTS not only humans but the rest of the environment, doesn't require a scientist to understand.

Now in the 21st Century, we have MOUNTAINS OF SCIENTIFIC FACTS to support this LOGICAL CONCLUSION, that humans are poisoning themselves and the planet.

Fuck, EVERYBODY knows that!

So all this DENIER shit is just the CORPORATIONS protecting their asses over this, cause they SHOULD ALL BE SUED, and indeed back in the 60s and 70s we tried to sue their asses, and many had to PAY for their pollution.

Of course this gov't just rolls over for their big corporate sponsors and so NOBODY gets prosecuted for this pollution anymore. It's a HIGH CRIME, and BUSH and Congress should be held accountable.

 

Rat, next time I see you post ANYTHING with the same exactly format (described below), you will be banned as a troll/spammer...

The Five "D"s... These are the marks of paid propagandists...

Deny - Deny the message outright. It's completely wrong (no gray areas).
Distort - Distort the meaning of the message so people think it means something else.
Distract - Change the subject (make it about Al Gore, not Global Warming!).
Discredit - Discredit the source and the message too will be discredited (ie: Al Gore)
Discourage - The ultimate aim of propagandist. Stop people from believing the message, stop people from spreading the message, stop people from doing anything about it.

Anyone posting such shit up (esp. over and over again) will be subject to banning.

Every fucking anti-global warming article does ALL THESE THINGS!

 

I'm not talking about what YOU say, but what articles get posted here.

Scientific journals do NONE of those things I mentioned. They discuss FACTS not PEOPLE. They use the scientific method, they don't cherry pick (like taking one year's stats and make conclusions based upon it.

Go check my list against the BS Corporate Propaganda and see if it doesn't match. Then check any scientific journal and see if they use the same tactics to get their points across.

Only BRAINWASHED IDIOTS believe corporate paid propaganda.

And anyone spreading that shit here, is subject to immediate bans.

 

Uh, this is a topic for another thread, no? That's DISTRACT! (or derail).

This thread is about deniers & their propaganda. Let's stay on topic, please, Rat.

Of course I COULD mention that NOT ONE DENIER ever offers a solution (other than to let the polluters keep on polluting and let the "market" sort it out). Which is exactly what corporations want.

 

You make a GOOD point here because what you title something, determines people's automatic reactions (but not their thoughtful, researched reactions).

If the problem was called Global Pollution, which is the MAJOR contributing factor to Global Warming, then people would be able to get a better handle on it and the corporations couldn't deny the existence of Global Pollution.

Indeed solutions would be much easier to swallow because we all know about corporate pollution and cleaning it up is actually EASY, just pass new laws in the US & worldwide to punish the polluters.

I never liked the "green credit" ideas cause they don't stop the pollution at all.

The best thing to do is SUE THE BASTARDS! Or even BILL THEM for their pollution. If every American would send a bill to the major polluters for the impact their pollution has on their lives and health, then maybe they'd realize it's cheaper to stop polluting than pay every American for it.

How's that for a solution?

 

Solutions are another topic. If you don't believe that Man contributes to Global Warming, what's the point of discussing solutions, right? That is why deniers DISCOURAGE us! They don't want us coming up with solutions to Global Pollution because it will impact their business, negatively, or so they think.

But they are wrong. Because stopping pollution helps EVERYONE. Maybe not their bottom line in the short run, but in the long run, non-polluting technology MUST BE EMPLOYED if we are to survive this century.

And that requires new technology that must be developed and the spread of existing, but repressed technologies. If we can all agree on this, then there IS NO DEBATE.

By sidetracking the debate on whether Global Warming is directly caused by man or not, totally ruins the opportunity we have AT THIS MOMENT to change the path we are on.

So let's prove ourselves ABOVE the corporate paid propaganda, and put this topic on a new level by discussing how to rein in Corporate Pollution, regardless of its impact on "Global Warming".

Again Global Warming is just TWO WORDS, and you can debate their meaning until we are DROWNING either under pollution or floods, or we can do something now about it!

 

China will have to tackle the problem themselves and very soon. I've already seen good signs they have begun to take it very seriously, esp. with the Olympics coming.

As I've been saying for quite sometime now, consumers have FAR MORE POWER than they realize or use. Boycotts are VERY effective if you can get enough ppl to do it. Even the publicity around a boycott makes companies respond, whether or not they are effective. They can "tarnish" a company's image, sometimes permanently.

US corporations bear responsibility for what happens in China too. They are partners with the Chinese in thousands of businesses, but they refuse to follow US pollution laws or labor laws, that's why they went to China in the first place (besides the low wages).

If we boycott one corporation (it only takes one boycott and the threat of more to force changes), make an example out of them, you'll see changes.

But China will NEVER EVER be able to totally cleanup their act because they've PERMANENTLY damaged their ecosystems. And with their population still growing, it's unlikely they can do all that much to restore things.

Technology holds a lot of promise, but it must be put into use everywhere it's needed, regardless of costs. This is the biggest opportunity for new businesses, and hundreds of startups are happening right now.

But is it too little, too late? Only time will tell (like then next 5 years)...

 

Can you show a respectable source for this LIE?

I doubt it. Cause since Bushit has been in power America's pollution has increased dramatically due to the increase in coal use and the relaxation of pollution standards - the gutting of NEPA, and other reasons.

At least get your facts right!

 

That doesn't prove your point that there is less pollution in the US now than 20 years ago (1987).