Oh shit i thought I was in the stoners lounge!!! Well anways, it's 3 in the morning and Im going to bed. it was fun debating with you.
K you know what im sorry. when i start talking about things i feel strongly about i lose my shit allitle bit. ive decided to just let christians belive what the will its not my fuckin issue. when a person dies because of ignorace i can only shake my head and ask myself when they will realize that there's just not proof of a god. sorry dudes its just not there. anyway captian i found your stick, i put a nail in it and mailed it to you it should be there tomorrow, good luck.
haha, loved you last post neo. Captin, yes hypothetically your statement is correct, but i could also say "if your parents never had sex, I wouldn't have to sit here and explain to you why your post while true, is still moot". Yes you wouldn't exist an therefore i would never be typing this, bu so what. Hypotheticals of this sort don't go anwhere. You can prove anything with this sort of hypothetical. Now if you were to say, hypothetically that Jesus did exist and said some stuff and the Bible was an attempt to record or to pass along what he taught, then what kind of person was this hypothetical Jesus. Whether or not he existed is moot, but then at least there is somethign of value to discuss bcause we can get a glimpse into the past and perhaps change the future.
Well, Cannabis, Philosophically Speaking, We're All Inclined To Beleive In God Whether We Have Evidence In His Existence Or Not. Some Say That Beleif In God Is Self Evident, A Natural Inclination Since Knowledge Of God Is Naturally And Most Definitely Implanted In All. So, That Being Said, One Could Argue That No Matter The Situation, The Realization That God Exists Is Obvious. At Least, That's What Some Philosophers Have Argued For Close To A Thousand Years.
I was just trying to show you that your that your hypothetical could not exist in the real world. But if you want me to prove God is real; let me ask you this, is it easier for you to believe that someone came up with the idea of God without it ever existing before and some how that concept was so "wonderful" that it spread to all mankind or that God exists and he put the concept of God into the minds of all men?
for me i see the bible as a bad old fiction book. it dosnt have any soild ground to sit on. im not going to say it has no value because a lot of the principles in the bible teach people to lead better lives and whatnot. unfourtinatly there's also the complete bs side of the bible wich involvs a number of chareters that hypotheticly existed such as jesus. at the same time that could be a simple back story for all of the small versus that teach valuable lessons. then again since certain people take jesus litterally it really comprimises the value of the bible with a bunch of physco "praise jesus" people are running about (not saying every christin is like that but now im really just rambling)
I agree that the Romans/Galatians part was a bit of a moot poin for personal debate because I do think that both of those verses are authentically Paul. I will have to get back to you again to argue for contradictions from Luke's account of things to Paul's
References to Jesus by Tacitus, Suetonius, Pliny the Younger, and at least one by Flavius Josephus, are generally accepted as proof of the historical existence of Jesus.
Proof of God's existence is all around us, if we choose to see it that way. I don't think there ever could be a lack of awareness of the possibility of God, because alot of people WANT to believe in God. Alot of people look at the world and say 'wow, something bigger than all of us must have done this'. Even if no one had ever mentioned God, that alone could have inspired the birth of the thought. All throughout history we see people worshiping some sort of god. People have religion because they want it. This is where faith comes in, I think. Even if there's no scientific proof of something they believe, they believe it anyway because the belief, and what it is they're believing in, is important to them. Isn't that all that matters? Just my two cents.
Looks like this Christian reverend was using the light of Christianity, whatever that means, to search for some pussy. HAHA!! Lordy, Lordy!!! Missing New York reverend found in Ohio strip club http://www.boston.com/news/odd/articles/2008/03/29/missing_ny_rev_found_at_ohio_strip_club/
Did I directly quote the Bible on that? No I did not! Are you a fucking mindless idiot? Is there a shread of common sense in your head? They were called evil heathens, do you honestly think Christians thought of them as the same class of human beings as they were? Heathen - One who is regarded as irreligious, uncivilized, or unenlightened. Grow some balls and own up to the death, destuction, and oppression this piece of shit book is responsible for!!!
Whoa relaxxx, you need to relax. We're discussing the Bible here and what it says, not what people think it says. A book is only responsible for what it actually says. Or do you believe that the Beatles are responsible for the murders committed by Charles Manson and his gang because good old Charlie said the Beatles song Helter Skelter told him to do it? See that’s the problem, for so many years people have used the Bible as an excuse to do the most irreprehensible things that people no longer even check to see if the Bible even agrees with what they’ve done. They just say; look, the Bible did it again! Well the Bible didn’t do it or say it, it was those who call themselves “Christian” that are just making it up as they go along that did it! That goes back to my original annoyance as in “what annoy you about this forum” which is the title of this thread and that’s Christians who pick and choose from the Bible and still call themselves Christians. So you’re going to have to do a lot better than you’ve already done to prove that the Bible is responsible for the irreprehensible things these so called “Christians” have done! Because, just as it takes more than someone saying the Beatles made me do it to make the Beatles responsible; it also takes more than people saying the Bible made me do to make the Bible responsible for their irreprehensible actions! PS Are you a fucking mindless idiot? No. Is there a shred of common sense in your head? Yes. They were called evil heathens, do you honestly think Christians thought of them as the same class of human beings as they were? I don’t know who called them evil heathens but true Christians never thought of the Jews as sub-human or evil heathens because then Jesus who was a Jew would also have to be sub-human and a evil heathen which true Christians obviously don’t believe. PSS Heathen - One who is regarded as irreligious(Jews have a religion), uncivilized(Jew were one of the first truly civilized peoples), or unenlightened(Jews may be unenlightened but two out of three ain’t bad and means that they aren’t heathens!).
References by somebody regarding something doesn't mean one has to blindly accept everything without verifiable evidence. To blindly accept something said by someone is like putting someone's head on top of your own.
Isn't it though. But anyway I was just answering Severely stoned when he said that Jesus hypothetically existed. I was just pointing out that there is some historical evidence that Jesus was a real person and not just hypothetical.
I was just answering Severely stoned when he said that Jesus hypothetically existed. I was just pointing out that there is some historical evidence that Jesus was a real person and not just hypothetical. PS But one would wonder what you consider to be verifiable evidence?
so then this is acceptable? this entire thread is one big flame. it's totally out of hand. I find it ironic that you all are against christianity b/c you say it is intolerant and hateful, yet if you look at this forum, you act exactly the same as the things you claim to hate.