Animal Souls Are Biblical...

We need some strict rules on animal treatment. Well enforced.

 

Humanity engaged in cannibalism too at prehistoric times, and in survival situations in recent centuries and times too. The survivors of the Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571 plane crash stuck in the remote Andes mountains resorted to cannibalism to survive. So obviously human beings were omnivores as you said. But with rising standards of civilization and culture such practices of meat-eating vanished.

So yeah, ancestors of human beings were probably omnivores tending to vegetarian diet just like the primates. But it would be a productive exercise or austerity on our part to practice veganism or vegetarianism or reduce consumption of meat substantially, considering the ethical, environmental and health benefits .

In India, the Jains and Brahmins were strict vegetarians for milleniums, and are noted for their intellectual acumen, literacy and financial prosperity.

The father of India's space programme, Vikram Sarabhi was a Jain, and Srinivasa Ramanujan, the Indian mathematician who was considered a genius on par with Euler, Gauss and Jacobi was also a strict vegetarian.

Leonardo da Vinci, considered as the symbol of the Renaissance which lifted Europe out of the fog of the Dark Ages, was also a vegetarian.

 

As were the Essenes and the early Christian Ebionites, whose version of the Bible had John the Baptist eating honey and pancakes instead of honey and locusts. Reference to cannibalism concerns a particular kind of meat instead of meat in general. As for the Jains and Brahmins, with whom were they noted for their intellectual acumen and literacy. Are you suggesting that meat eaters are a bunch of dumdums? meat eating seems to be associated with a dramatic increase in human brain size.
Eating meat led to smaller stomachs, bigger brains
Eating meat drove the evolution of our big, powerful brain
Meat, Cooked Foods Needed for Early Human Brain | Live Science
When Fire Met Food, The Brains Of Early Humans Grew Bigger
If Jains are really intellectually superior, they'd surely detect the fallacies in your reasoning that points to one example here and there to make sweeping generalizations about their intellectual prowess.

 

Statistics already proves that Jains have the highest literacy rates for both males (97.4 per cent) and females (90.6 per cent) in India.

But I have already pointed out that the Jains and Brahmins who were part of an ancient civilization , were noted for their vegetarianism for milleniums.

Obviously, at this point of time, intelligence will show that veganism or vegetarianism is essential in terms of ethical , environmental and health benefits.

Cancer and cardiovascular diseases are the biggest killers in the west and world, other than the coronavirus at present, and research have shown a correlation between these diseases and non-vegetarian diet.

How plant-based food helps fight cancer

UN experts have also stated that switching to a plant based diet can also help stop or delay climate change.

Plant-based diet can fight climate change - UN

 

Just eat a good variety of food to get all the nutriments you need.

 

You eat what you like, we'll eat what we like - 'nuff said ???


and you stop right here trying to convert the rest of the people on here to you veganism diets, as you've already seen, we're not interested !!!

 

Literacy isn't ordinarily a good measure of intelligence. Do you have any independent sources to support your claims about the superiority of Jain intelligence? BTW, what religion are you? Let me guess.

Good for them. And Jews were part if an ancient civilization noted for eating lamb but abstaining from pork. And Aztecs were part of an ancient civilization noted for eating people. So what?

It's not primarily a matter of intelligence. It's a matter of taste and values. As for the health benefits, it's debatable whether or not an all vegetarian diet is superior to a pescatorian one, or one in which chicken and fish are substituted for meat. Strict vegetarian diets may be deficient in vitamin B12, important for brain and cognitive functioning. You may also have to spend more time in the sun without sun screen, risking cancer, in order to avoid deficiency in Vitamin D. And the protein quality from vegetables tends to be poorer than that from animal-based sources.

This is true. But those can be reduced by a pescatorian diet or one that substitutes chicken for red meat.

The main problem is beef. Actually, research shows that a flexitarian diet in which some non-beef animals are included is better for the environment that a strictly vegetarian one. Eating some meat is better for the environment than going vegetarian, new study finds

 

I'm troubled by the syllogism you're putting forward to support vegetarianism. I think that it's basically grounded in the fallacy Post hoc, ergo propter hoc. Let me illustrate by a hypotheical: Ashkenazi Jews are superior in intelligence to the general population. Ashkenazi Jews eat significantly less pork than the general population. Therefore we can boost the general intelligence of the general population by eating less pork. What is wrong with that logic?

The major premise might be questioned, although there is some support for it. Charles Murray (infamous) author of The Bell Curve, points out that Jews in America and Britain have an overall IQ mean somewhere between a half and a full standard deviation above the mean. Murray C. Jewish Genius. Commentary. April 2007.: http://www.commentarymagazine.com/cm/main/viewArticlehtmlid=10855 Anthropologists Gregory Cochran, Jason Hardy and Henry Harpending attribute this to selective “in-breeding” (Cochran et al., 2006). Just count Nobel prizes won by Jews. As Einstein wryly observed: "If my theory of relativity is proven successful, Germany will claim me as a German and France will declare that I am a citizen of the world. Should my theory prove untrue, France will say that I am a German and Germany will declare that I am a Jew."

Putting that aside, let's look at the minor premise--Jewishness correlates with abstinence from pork. Here again, there is some validity to the relationship. Leviticus 11:7.Not all Jews are observant, but enough are to account for a significant difference in pork consumption, compared to the general population. So does abstinence from pork account for the superior intelligence of Ashkenazi Jews? Not necessarily. It could be a spurious correlation. Anybody who's taken a statistics course is probably aware that correlation is not causation, and anybody who has taken an elemetary logic course has probably heard of the fallacy of post hoc, ergo propter hoc.

 

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For a discussion of alternative explanations for the superiority of the Ashkenazi Jews (that it was based on a skewed sample from elite private schools), see Vox Popoli: The myth of Jewish intelligence.

 

Comrade Vladimir Illich, you are privileged to eat whatever you wish to eat. I am only passing facts and statistics around.


I myself was a non-vegetarian who enjoyed meat dishes, and who eventually became vegetarian due to environmental reasons and the ethical factor of nonviolence.
Environmental activism have also compelled me to buy and use a bicycle more than motorbike or car.

In terms of simple economics, one can see that a vegetarian diet can feed and support more people than a nonvegetarian diet from the same resources.Producing one pound of animal protein requires 100 times more water than producing one pound of grain protein. Considering the explosion in the world population to 8 billion at present, and to 10 billion by 2050 and considering the scarcity of water and food resources, we need to adopt a holistic perspective to ensure food security for all.

Environmental vegetarianism - Wikipedia

Can Vegetarianism Save the World? Nitty-gritty

How livestock farming affects the environment


The meat industry accounts for around 18% of global warming.

Global warming at present have given rise to super-storms which have wrecked the economies of island nations and coastal regions.

It has also given rise to droughts which have greatly reduced agricultural output and farmer productivity .


Global agriculture will be drastically altered by climate change | Greenbiz

Global Warming Effects on Drought

Rainfall variation resulted in long periods of droughts, floods in southern Ethiopia: Study

Asia needs bolder climate action



Rising sea levels induced by global warming can also swamp seaports disrupting the global economy as seaports account for 80% of the world trade volume. They also pose a threat to people residing in coastal regions and island nations, and I have been a sorry witness to houses damaged by sea water taking in more land with each passing year.

Climate change impacts on seaports: A growing threat to sustainable trade and development | UNCTAD

The world’s coastal cities are going under. Here’s how some are fighting back

Sea level rise, facts and information


Hence, both farmers and workers, which account for the world proletariat, stands to be most affected by climate change. The rich and capitalists can easily insulate themselves from the economic havoc, but it will be the underprivileged and poor who are more vulnerable, tend to be affected the most, and disempowered socially and economically as a consequence by these issues.

A communists line of thinking obviously ought to be influenced by science, reasoning and not by his taste buds, and he is duty-bound to adapt all means necessary to serve the interests of the world proletariat.

 

Yes matey, I agree. I was being very insensitive, I apologise.