I've always hated having to role-play. And I initially attract men who don't want to role-play either ... for one reason or another they fall closer to the middle as well. But in the end they ALWAYS leave me for more feminine looking- and acting girls. I think it is to make themselves feel more masculine. I have heard horror stories from trans girls (who were born male but have had reassignments) -- men will be very attracted to them, until they finds out these ladies don't have reproductive organs. One very lovely girl was rejected when a man found out she had no real breasts and was not simply small-breasted. This seems so shallow to me ... I would not reject a man on the basis of his testicles (or lack thereof) ... so I was wondering what you all thought. It seems like everyone who posted is "deep" ... which is good. I can only hope there are people "out here" who think that way as well.
Suncatch, you've started an interesting thread. To answer your question that is directed towards males, I would continue to let the sexual relationship unfold with that androgenous person. I certainly would not stop if they were a natural born female. If they were a transexual, that might throw me for a loop, but I may proceed out of curiosity and open-mindedness. Now, this is only for a consentual sexual relationship. In the case of pursuing a long term relationship, I'd also be open to dating a woman that was a bit androgenous. I must admit that I do feel naturally attracted to childbearing hips, but women that dress and act androgenous are usually still able to bear children. Given the choice, I'd prefer to commit to a woman that was able to have children, but if all else were perfect, I wouldn't put an unfertile woman aside. Getting back to the androgenous look though, most of my whole life I've been attracted to tomboy type women. I've always found women with short hair and a difinitive jaw line to look very pretty. The truth is though, that the nice jaw line with most any hair type is pretty. In the last couple of years I've began to feel more attracted to women with longer hair. I find the hippie chick pictures of Au Natural women to be extreemely hot. This isn't about a woman being more feminine for me, but being more primitive and animalistic. I like natural living, and natural looking hair, wheter short or long is what I find most attractive, and the long straight or wavy (even messy sometimes) hippy look is so cool IMHO. I've known for many years that I felt more attracted to dark haired women. I never found myself attracted to blondes, unless their personality was overwhelmingly wonderful. I used to think that this was my reaction to blondes being so commercialized and that they appeared fake. I still agree with this slightly, but I realized that I have felt this way because most blondes have died their hair blonde, therefore many other things about them appear fake to me. A higher percentage of women that dye their hair blonde are probably into fancy fashion. I've never been attracted to women that wear much makeup, or wear too much fancy jewelry. I've certainly realized this year that I'm most attracted to plain or more natural women. I would include androgenous women into this. They tend to be less materialistic, and certainly less fake. Also, I like androgenous women because I'm very interested in bisexual women. I'm bi also ( for pleasure and not romance, and I prefer women ) and I've always felt most compatible with bi women. Another thing is that I may stereotype an androgenous woman as one that would not mind getting dirty oustide on the farm, being more athletic, having smallish breast (which I like), and not being obsessed with fashion and shoping. Those are just stereotypes that I have of tomboys. I may be wrong, but I bet that most of those stereotypes are accurate. Heck, I'd absolutely love to have a bisexual partner that would enjoy wearing a large strap-on once in a while for me or her girlfriend, but that's getting a little off topic.
Hmmm, I don't think it's shallow to reject someone because they weren't who you thought they were. I mean, do you really think that most heterosexual men should be ok with a preop m to f transexual? There's absolutely nothing wrong with being trans to me, but I can understand not pursuing someone because they didn't have a set of genitals that you felt attracted to or willing to touch (which a lot of hetero men would be with a preop tranny, not all but a lot)
Don't get me wrong, I'm not doubting what you are saying...I'm just wondering, to all men out there...why they would be so uncomfortable touching another penis? They have their own penis, they touch it every day. Most men masterbate...and the transexual is still a woman on the inside...so what's the bit deal? If they really 'loved' that person they wouldn't leave them because they had a penis...
Well it does kind of change the whole situation, I can ask the same question to straight girls, if they were dating someone that for all intensive purposes they thought and looked like a man, then you get into bed and they tell you they're a pre-op female-male transsexual, would you wanna touch their vagina?
It's a way of looking at it,sure...I personally wouldn't know...because genitals aren't a deciding factor for whether or not I want to be with someone. Especially when it comes to love. I'm saying,if you really really loved someone,and found out they were the gender opposite of what they said they were...how could it be so easy to just up and leave them?
Suncatch's original question was about a purely sexual relationship. In such I stated that I would probably continue getting to know that person. Now cercerning the type of person that I'm seeking for my primary lover, one whom to love deeply, I desire a natural born woman. To find that the person what change things, but they would not be what I was seeking. No, it would NOT be easy to break any new emotional ties with them, but I know ahead of time that I would not be satisfied in the long run, even though they were to have an operation in the future. You see, much of sex is psychological. We all desire different things, and have different expectations. I expect to commit in the future to a natural born female, and since I have that expectation, anything else would leave me unsatisfied. Yes, people should be looked upon as a whole person, and not just by their genitals, but the genitals are still included in the whole package of who they really are. As for being afraid of touching a penis, I'm ceratainly not. I have had bi experiences, and would like to in the future. Nevertheless, I desire to love a natural born female. In order for a person's to feel satisfied, the desires that are important to would need to be met. It is ok for my to desires to be limited, while your are less limited. I certainly don't want to sound to direct towards you AutumnsmoonChild. I'm just sharing my view on this topic more in depth.
The people I was referring to were post-op trannies. Pre-op is a whole different ballgame ... but thanks for sharing your views on it, this is far more fascinating than I originally anticipated! And also ... what if the woman had originally been a woman, but had sterilized and largely de-feminized herself? Like, she just looked like a tomboy on the outside, but under her clothing had no female characteristics except a vagina?
