America attacks us with TV

You really don't understand. You really don't...It's not that they watch...it's what it does to their brain development that effects the rest of their lives! As a parent we have to know these things. It is our responsibility.

 

My brain developed just fine. TV doesn't turn anyonne's mind into mush, and it doesn't inhibit brain development. Now, if all a kid does is watch TV 24/7/356, then of course he's gonna have a hard time concentrating in school and interacing socially, but the same could be said for any activity, not just watching television. Anything is fine in moderation, but Willow is saying is that we should all throw away our TVs and computers, because nothing good can ever come of them. And I disagree.

I could stop anytime I want to........I just don't want to..........

Seriously though, I guess some people have natural weakness toward certain things, like TV disease (if you can even call it that). I don't. I watch more than my share of TV and play more than a healthy amount of video games, yet somehow I miraculously manage to lead a normal life interacting with normal people. Television is definitely no worse than marijuana (I'll use that as an example since there happen to be plenty of pot enthusiasts around here). As long as you don't let your life (or your kids' lives) be consumed by it, there's no reason to hate TV.

 

I think appropriate parenting is the key. My husband was raised having a TV as a babysitter/parent. Now he is terrible ADHD, and new studies have shown that too much TV time can cause that devolopment in young children. (of course, just about anything can cause adhd, if you read all the studies).


Too many parents use TV as a babysitter, and do not spend enough time with their child. That's where it becomes a large problem. Kids learn all their sex ed from television a long time before their parents get around to teaching it to them.

But I don't think you can blame the TV. The TV doesn't force someone to watch it, after all...

That's a good analogy.

 

Well Max, what is normal? The normal of society or the true normal human being.

What are you doing in your life to help other human beings, and improving yourself? Instead of pressing on those video game buttons for all those years, you could have invested that time to become bad ass in Bagua Chung, or focused on saving money to travel the world. You could have learned how to play the guitar or the drums... Instead years have been wasted watching fake people living fake lives. Listening to other peoples music. Faux stories when you could be living your own magnificent tale. I can understand, that alot of it was not your fault, and your parents were probably not very supportive.

But has your brain really turned out fine? What would your brain have been if you were directly experiencing life, reading, training physically, mentally, and spiritually? Would you have been a genius? Perhaps your lifestyle has handicapped your true potential. Would you have been able to make a positive impact on the world? Run 15 miles, or hit a target with immaculate accuracy???

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The other day I was watching my friend's brother play some Football game. It just blew my mind because he was overweight, and going through rigorous football training on the game. I told him, why don't you go and actually play football? He couldnt answer...

This is funny..My teacher told that there are TWO kinds of people. Either your an athlete or an athletic supporter. It makes sense. Those movie stars are directly living it, making bank, and having fun being in films. Then those who are stuck in the Babylon system. Working everyday, too tired and lazy to actually live fully watching the nonsense. You would not watch those films, or games if they do not connect with you. Something inside of you is telling you, I like this, I wanna experience this. But, you need to get off your ass and do it. Stop settling for a shitty electronic box, and go out and use all 5 senses!

 

Megara. Just from this post above, it shows that you have NONE to LITTLE experience with children.

 

lol, why? Because i think the parents need to be in control instead of the children? Its your fault if the kid watches too much TV.

 

Yeah, less tv is good. Network tv is evil. The best rpg's.... are art.

 

I'm happy with who I am. That's normal enough for me.

And in my lifetime, how the hell would I have paid for karate lessons, much less been able to travel the world? And how exactly would I have been able to "live my own magnificant tale?" I'm still in school, still learning what I need for life and how I need to get them. I haven't had a chance to achieve any of that. Christ, you make it sound like I've pissed my entire life away in front of a TV screen just because my hobbies don't agree with your sense of what I should be doing. Guess what, it takes more than laziness to maintain my 3.6 GPA AND my job, so who the fuck are you to judge how I spend my free time?

Yeah, it has.

My lifestyle has no need for physical prowess, all I have to be concerned with is not getting overheight, and I'm an agnostic with no need for bullshit "spirituality" or religion. If I'm going to become a genius, it won't happen until I've had a chance to actually get out into the world and do something with my life.

And maybe someday with his knowledge of the actual game of football (you know, what the player's don't have) he's received through training sims (i. e. video games), that kid will be the college coach who gets to piss on the dreams of athletes who do nothing but play football and rip on the kids like him, who watch TV and play videogames.

That's great, but how many athletes and actors actually make it big time, and how many are stuck working as bus boys who can't do shit with their lives because they were too obsessed with unrealistic dreams? Find out how that fat kid who plays football games all day does in school, I bet his GPA better than the entire football team's combined. Only the most naturally and genetically blessed humans can even begin to hope to become professional athletes and actors, the rest who believe the bullshit "follow your dreams" mentality that you put forth are stuck in the land of make-believe, thinking that they could do whatever they wanted as long as they work hard, when in fact reality is far harsher.

Instead, people like me and that who play videogames (all the while gaining progressive and systematic thinking skills, logical reasoning, prolonged planning, and the ability to multi-task) and learn to use our heads instead of having them in the clouds or up our asses get to become successful in life, while 99% of the jerckoffs who "followed their dreams" get to bag our groceries and flip our burgers.

 

I could not agree with you more.Read my thoughts on that subject. The greatest RPGs are a thousand times better than the greatest novels and the greatest movies, you get to be a part of an epic story rather than just a spectator. Someday videogames will be on the same level as movies and television.

 

damn thats well said

 

This gose for a childs natural genius as well as a youngster. And yes Having a tv does effect your child brain development as well as video games and computers. Yes it it all about moderation. You seem a bit worked up over the fact that some peopel can be a sucsessfull family unite with propper values without a tv. It is obvious.

 

As if they are not already?

 

If it's all about moderation, then there is no need to remove computers and television from a child's life.

Where in my post did I mention anything about a family unit?

 

And there doesn't seem to be much room for agreement or compromise on this subject . . . .

I think if we presented a specific set of questions to tackle it might help us discuss. Right now we are just sharing opinions about TV and bashing heads.

Watching TV doesn't develop a strong mind.

right . . . I'm not into predictions of the future, but I think that getting rid of it entirely is not going to happen anyways. As I've said before. Worse than the airwaves are those who currently control them. Imagine if we knew each politician's voting records and other statistics as intimately as we know our sports idol's. TV can be much healthier for society than it is, still watched in moderation.

If our media did it's part in reporting accurately and truthfully then maybe we would take more active roles in preventing and speaking out about the famine and genocide that is happening right now.

If they don't have it to begin with, then there's nothing to take away.

Where would you get an idea like that????

My friends that are addicted to cigarettes say the same thing. LOL, sorry dude but you gotta admit theres some irony in that statement.

Going with that analagy. I'd like to know what age you think it's appropriate to start smoking pot. I would say 13ish. And I would guess that TV wouldn't seriously harm your development at that age either.

You'd think removing it from the environment would be more accepted by people who use this line of thought. I agree completely. It's the parents responsibility to monitor its usage at the least.

hahahahah i love it. I appreciate the humor.






Kitty Fabulous, you know your shit.
Willow, you too.


I do think that there are places/times for computers/television. I think we abuse the TV and computer as a whole. I think the TV especially has been corrupted by intent of profit.

 

Yogi, you are a fucking pussy. Reply to our entire posts, not just the pieces you decide to take out of context and warp. My "I could quit if I want to" line was quite obviously a joke, learn to take one.

Out of curiosity, when was the last time you played an RPG?

 

Because they are? I sit and listen to music the same way i sit and watch the tv. I sit and watch the opera the same way i sit and watch the tv. I sit and watch a play the same way i sit and watch a tv. they are passive forms. I dont actively partake in any, i take them in.

Whether they cause different neurons to be used or whatever i dont know. I contemplate interesting things in my mind when i listen/watch all of them.

 

Sorry I usually dont do the quote thing but damn I've been having this conversation a lot hehe.

last rpg was about 3-4 years ago. I was addicted to ultima online. lol. I
grew up of course watching tv, and i've had nintendo, super nintendo, and computer games. Friends have had all the rest of the gaming systems i never had.

Megara,
Kitty fabulous was talking about passive brain experience. Not a sitting, passive body.

If you guys are interested in how television effects a young child's brain then please start by reading the American Acadamy of Pediatrics article about it here:
http://www.aap.org/advocacy/chm98nws.htm

If you want to see how America Attacks with the media the topic of this thread, read something about NeuroMarketing.

 

you have a point max. we can all see how well your brain has developed, and how socially advanced you are, from the overwhelming number of confrontational rants you post, arguing topics you clearly know little or nothing about, with people obviously having way more knowledge and practical experience than you.

clearly this is a true sign of intellectual superiority. we are all humbled by your brilliance and wit.

 

Oh man do I ever agree with this sentiment. I don't doubt that what people see, read and hear influences their views and behaviour. However, I also believe that there is a choice to view or not to view. If we're being "brainwashed", it's because we choose to do so.

Farenheit 451 was a damn good book. Scared the hell out of me. I don't agree with a lot of the crap on tv, so I don't watch it. Same with a lot of the crap in various forms of print. If it offends your sensibilities, exercise your power to not watch/read/listen to it. It's really as simple as that.

And if you want to really get into it, what about what goes on in our schools? It all comes down to what we believe in. You're not going to be able to avoid all of the unpleasant crap out there, but, you can choose what you want to do with it. In the case of your kids and the questionable stuff they may be fed in school, make sure they know how you feel about the issues and what's going on in the world. It may be because I'm a simple lizard lady, but, I believe if you instill your values in them, it'll all work out, and they won't become victims of "brainwashing".