aliens & their message

Discussion in 'Weird, Bizarre and Mysterious' started by cindywarble, Mar 31, 2019.

  1. guerillabedlam

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    Damn, highlights why I find many of Irminsul's thoughts on this stuff and science unintelligible. They are often contradicting and all over the place.
     
  2. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    We can only be sure what the sumerian texts say when they are translated by several people, and then peer reviewed. It's the way of the science :-D
     
  3. Irminsul

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    But that's been done. The story has already been written and told. What Sitchin gets accused of is misinterpreting symbols, like star constellation and signs in murals as the make up of Sumerian cosmology. It doesn't even matter if that subject is right or wrong, it has no bearing on the Anunnaki at all. They're just little nitpicks to try and discredit him, but scientists use his work, like Michael Tellinger who found Adams Calander exactly where it was said to be located in South Africa using Sitchins work.
     
  4. guerillabedlam

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    Maybe when asked off the cuff but keep in mind the book was supposed to represent the basis of his theory.
     
  5. Irminsul

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    Or another one is Sitchin said he translated Sumerian tablet that suggested they knew that neptune was made from liquid water. We talked about that in this thread already and GB found his source that discredits Sitchins theory. Yet whether neptune was made of water or not, or whether that was actually even mentioned on the tablet has no bearing on the Anunnaki story. The journey of the Anunnaki is not really disputed, it's the Sumerian cosmology of our galaxy that people frown at. Aka nitpicking scenarios that don't make a difference.
     
  6. guerillabedlam

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    I seem to recall it having to do with the knowledge of Neptune, which was disproven.
     
  7. Irminsul

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    Disproven by people who aren't as knowledgeable as Sitchin mind you in those translations. ;)

    That's the other thing too like I said before Sitchin's work is still regarded high to geologists, archaeologists and ancient historians.

    von Danikan actually admitted on Ancient Aliens that he was wrong about chariots of the gods, not sure what part he was wrong on but he admitted it, so that's another reason I haven't read his books. Seems after 30 odd years of more research and knowledge things change... But they don't particularly change with Sitchins translations of the events of the Anunnaki, instead books get published every year based entirely from his work.

    Danikan said he has learned more now and that he can see his mistakes in Chariots of the Gods. Like I said, I don't know what those mistakes are though. But he's admitted he was wrong and he's more knowledgeable now he still believes he's on the right track. I think that's admirable.
     
  8. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    His two dozen or so books are the entire basis for the Ancient astronaut theory. There wouldn’t be a show on the history channel without his input.
     
  9. Irminsul

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    I doubt his influence is the entire basis for the show, there's many episodes where he isn't even a part of it. I'm sure he has some influence, but then again so does Michio Kaku. :)

    For instance, the new episodes are all about researching things done in 2019, von Daniken isn't involved whatsoever.
     
  10. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I’ve read a few of his books Including his international best seller Chariots of the Gods, and I haven’t seen a single episode in which they tackled a subject which wasn’t previously addressed by Von Daniken in his two dozen or so books.


    He’s the godfather of the Ancient Astronaut theory, and yes, they interview other writers who have written many books, but most were based on previous work by Von Daniken.

    Giorgio A. Tsoukalos is really nothing more than a front man for Von Daniken to give him some credibility
     
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  11. Irminsul

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    There's so many other people on AA other than those 2 names though Lol, they're getting used less and less anyway. I read all the titles under the names and they're all some sorta scientists.
     
  12. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Yes they’re all some sort of scientists.

    I believe they all fall under the same branch of science known as pseudo-science ...lol...
     
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  13. Irminsul

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    Which is all still yet proven to be unproven.
     
  14. Asmodean

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    It's verified what pseudoscience is and why most 'some sort of scientists' on AA are called as such. So no, in most instances there's solid reason to identify them as such.
    It's not primarily because of their focus points/interests, it's how they reached their conclusions.
    Many scientists consider the possibilities of ancient aliens theories and don't reject them completely at all. But they adhere to the scientific method and so simply can not conclude at this point it is the likeliest option.
     
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  15. themnax

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    now i have nothing against the rocks, trees, and little furry creatures of this earth, but i love people from other worlds who look nothing like humans.
    this may be because my previous lives were on other worlds, and my future lives, when i have passed from this one, even as before i was born into it,
    those other physical worlds, orbiting other suns in other solar systems, were and will be, my past and future homes.

    i cannot prove this by memories. i have no idea what i may actually have looked like in previous lives, maybe it would give you nightmares, maybe it would make you gush at the cuteness.
    more likely, every world has its own normal, as to what people, beings who make art and furnature, look like.

    not gods, not monsters. just non-human looking people. and like me, you too may have been and will be, in each life, a different physical place, with the norms and expectations of that place.
     
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  16. 'the kindergarten teacher, hey kids, did you know whats the biggest thing ever? kids- yes, my house is soooo big, a dinosaur, that mountain, the sky, the whole universe etc. But one kid in the corner so silent teacher asks, what do you think little buddy? he says. my eyes? My mind? Cause it holds.. everything? everything that exists happens within, whatever i feel, is... me?, teacher- what the f.... little kids, and their wisdom'
     
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  17. themnax

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    well you know, that's the interesting thing, your mind does not hold everything, because nothing has to be known in order to exist.
    nor does anything that exists owe anything to what we think we know about it.

    we can discover things, and pass on what we find, but there is no other certainty then that some things happen more often then others,
    and some happen more often when other things happen first.

    and that, neither prevents nor requires anything, even ourselves.
    and this makes it possible, for there to always be something that has yet to be discovered,
    no matter how much, we, or anything else, may have done so already.
     
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  19. Asmodean

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    Only half of it! :p
     
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  20. Asmodean

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    Btw: in the movie Arrival Earth is heating up because its secretly being terraformed by and for the aliens.

    :eek:
     
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